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Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:18 PM

It's been 40 fricken' years..

Why do 40% of Americans still vote against their best interests? If we could get everyone to vote their economic needs and allow each one of us to pursue our own religious/philosophical bearing...we'd kick ass in this world.

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Reply It's been 40 fricken' years.. (Original post)
Old and In the Way Dec 2012 OP
elleng Dec 2012 #1
xxxsdesdexxx Dec 2012 #2
Old and In the Way Dec 2012 #3
freshwest Dec 2012 #4
Joe Bacon Dec 2012 #5
Jamaal510 Dec 2012 #6

Response to Old and In the Way (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:22 PM

1. It wasn't the case so much, in the past,

but now that we've got ever more close to media monopolies AND well-crafted repug propaganda, we've been screwed.

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Response to elleng (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:43 PM

2. Right

A lot of people simply believe what they want to believe. Facts don't matter. How many people think that the president has already raised taxes, that he's not an American, that he was born in Kenya, that he hates America, that he is a muslim, that he is the anti-Christ, that he's an Arab, that he's an alien from another planet, that he is a communist, that he is a socialist, that he wants to destroy America, that he stole the election, that he fudged the unemployment numbers, that he's "not one of us," that he ate the turkey that he pardoned, that he really didn't order the Osama Bin Laden raid and kill, that he hates white people, that he wants to create government run health care with death panels, etc... All of these things have really been said about the president. When they're called out on it, they either say that it's what they heard somewhere or that the rebuttal to their allegation is a lie. All we can do is counter their nonsense with facts one person at a time -- regardless of whether they listen or not.

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Response to xxxsdesdexxx (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:11 PM

3. Great comment.

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We've been demonized as a political label 40 years...when will these people figure it out?

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Response to Old and In the Way (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:17 PM

4. They don't vote against their own interests. They've redefined who they and the others are.

A great deal of their voting to kill government regulation and programs, directly benefit the corporatists who employ them. This is the thing many Democrats refuse to believe. Privatization and reducing government is their reward, so they don't see it as their problem.

Taking more from 'the others' puts more money in their own pockets. There is no better example of when such people organize for their own narrow interest than the privatization of public schools and services and healthcare. I've run into many people like this, and religion is often their excuse, the other one is libertarianism.


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Response to Old and In the Way (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 07:50 PM

5. It started with George Wallace in 1964.

I remember Wallace running against Johnson in the 1964 primaries in Wisconsin, Maryland and Indiana. In each state, Wallace wrapped up dangerously high numbers. That only encouraged him to bolt and form the American Independent Party that split the Democrats and formed a bridge for social conservatives to go over to the GOP.

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