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bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:41 PM Nov 2012

Can the President pick Rice as a recess appointment as SOS

This was brought up on Joe Madison show and according to him the President can't pick a person as SOS as a recess appointment because the position is to high up in the Government.Is this true or not

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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
1. It is within his power, BUT they said on the news today that would probably NEVER happen...
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:48 PM
Nov 2012

because is it such a high-power position and a senate hearing/confirmation would be expected by everyone.

Also, a recess appointment would not last for the full four years,
the appointment would still need to be confirmed by the senate otherwise it would expire in at the end of the congressional session.

TexasTowelie

(112,141 posts)
2. Yes, but she would have to be confirmed by the Senate in 2013, so nothing would be gained by doing
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:48 PM
Nov 2012

so. It would probably work against her since the Repukes would say that an under-handed move occurred.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
3. I disagree if she's already in the position doing the job
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:54 PM
Nov 2012

After a year what are they going to do say she's still not qualified and not confirm her

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
6. Wrong, she would be appointed in 2013. She remains for the duration of current Congress
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:56 PM
Nov 2012

which means her term would end in 2015.

TexasTowelie

(112,141 posts)
9. Valid point regarding the delay in her appointment.
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:33 AM
Nov 2012

I was viewing things under the consideration that Hillary may need or desire to be out of the SOS office before the end of the year. I don't believe that anyone (including the President) has given her any deadline.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
5. Theoretically, but the House isn't adjouring
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:55 PM
Nov 2012

They're refusing to adjourn so that Congress remains in-session, so that recess appointments aren't supposed to be possible.

It's not completely clear that this actually blocks recess appointments - a previous president made a recess appointment when Congresspeople went home for the weekend.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
11. Yes, but if they don't adjourn, Congress is still in session
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:09 AM
Nov 2012

Doesn't matter that the House doesn't vote on confirmation. Recess appointments can happen when Congress is not in session, not just the Senate.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
12. He's wrong. Even Supreme Court justices can be recess-appointed (and have been).
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:55 AM
Nov 2012

But personally I don't think it would be a good idea. I didn't like the way Bush did it with Bolton simply to get around the Senate because they rejected him, and I don't think Obama should do the same.

There's no reason to anyway. If nominated, she will be confirmed easily despite the grumblings of a couple of sore losers. Remember when Cornyn threatened to block Hillary in 2009? The vote was 94-2.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
13. Why waste so much political goodwill on Rice?
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:42 PM
Nov 2012

The fight over the fiscal cliff is far more important than maybe, possibly, choosing Rice as SOS.

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