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Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:52 PM

Chuck Hagel Being Vetted



Chuck Hagel Being Vetted

The former Nebraska Republican senator is being considered for a national security position.

Hagel, who co-chairs President Barack Obama’s Intelligence Advisory Board, which provides independent advice on the effectiveness of the intelligence community, could be in contention for either secretary of state or secretary of defense, people familiar with the vetting process say.

Hagel, a moderate realist on foreign policy, would be a comfortable ideological fit for the president. He has publicly supported many of the administration’s foreign-policy moves from his perch at Georgetown University, while often excoriating the GOP for what he sees as a takeover by “the extreme right.”


http://www.alan.com/2012/11/28/chuck-hagel-being-vetted/


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Edited to add...

Chuck Hagel is currently the Chairman of President Obama's Intelligence Advisory Board
Assumed office: October 28, 2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Hagel

Something that the articles that came out today did not mention is that it is a possibility that Hagel is being vetted to be Director of the CIA.


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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:53 PM

1. Surely not Secy of Defense?

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:55 PM

2. Beltway reaction ought to be interesting.

They've complained to no end that President Obama was supposed to "unite the country." Has a republican president EVER put a Democrat into such a high-ranking cabinet position?

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:55 PM

3. FUCK no. Keep this conservative asshole out of the Obama administration!

 

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:40 PM

28. While I really agree ...

I can't help to be a little delighted at the prospect of John McCain in the face of a Hagel nomination. What would he find to complain about next?

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:57 PM

4. there must be at least one competent democrat available in DC nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:13 PM

7. Wes Clark, for one.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:15 PM

8. I love Obama, but I also like Clark. I don't know why, but Obama

just seems not to care for him, for whatever reason.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:21 PM

9. I feel the same but maybe the president knows something we don't know..

 

Or there are just too many qualified candidates ahead of clark that Obama has relationships with.

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Response to vilify (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:27 PM

11. Maybe. Just seems a waste not to use him in some capacity, though.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:57 PM

36. Sure is a waste,

and no chance PrezO 'knows something,' NOTHING would disqualify Wes.

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Response to vilify (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:23 AM

75. Clark made an ass of himself by doing that "reality" show.

If you want to be taken seriously in the future, you should never host a fake military training crapfest starring Todd flippn' Palin.

Clark dug his own grave w/that.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:31 PM

22. I disagree

I think President Obama likes General Clark, he was one of his top National Security surrogates during the campaign. He also spent a lot of time in Ohio for the President. I worked on General Clark's 2004 campaign he is one of the sweetest gentleman I've met and his wife reminds me so much of Mrs. Ethel Kennedy, she was amazing when I met her.

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Response to LadyBirdJohnson (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:55 PM

35. HEY LADYBIRD! You worked for Wes???

So did I, and so did some others around here!!!

Wonder whether Wes' surrogacy will have had any effect on PrezO's thoughts about him, for inside the administration. I had thought of National Security Advisor for some time.



And WELCOME!

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Response to elleng (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:43 PM

41. Yes I did

It was the best political time of my life. It was my very first time being truly engaged in the political process. I really wanted him to be President in 2004 (I adore Senator Kerry) so much. Very shallow comment: he is so beautiful, (handsome face) in person, like Elvis beautiful. .

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Response to LadyBirdJohnson (Reply #41)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:54 PM

44. Ditto, my best too; got me into things,

and came to DU only after Wes and our group were finished. FB group exists, w some of our guys.

and yes, SO beautiful!

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:41 PM

29. Clark speaks his mind just like Howard Dean does.

Bad news....

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Response to pangaia (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:58 PM

45. As much as I love Wes Clark,

I think the GOP would dig stuff up that they didn't like about Clinton's war.....
and although I have always thought that General Wes Clark did an outstanding
Job as Allied Supreme Commander, there was just enough controversy in reference
to that war and his role in it to bring out the haters who would still want to hate....

I remember having to explain here at DU over and over and over again about some of Clark's actions,
and although much of the controversies were false,
they did take some explaining, and the media is not real good at explaining stuff, I'm afraid.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:48 PM

33. HEY FAWKE!!!



Hows the kiddo feeling?

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:05 AM

62. Isn't he busy

with a silly TV show?

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Response to Inuca (Reply #62)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:08 PM

80. No

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:58 PM

5. Obama has a great relationship with Chuck Hagel and trusts him. I disagree but it is not surprising.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:23 AM

68. Agreed - Hagel is very conservative

but, he gets along well with Obama and it will show Republics that he is reaching out to their side.

Maybe he'll replace Petraeus at CIA?

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:02 PM

6. Good move

O...Hagel is a good man.

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Response to tyne (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:36 PM

23. You must not be aware of his voting record.

 

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:42 PM

30. I'm aware of his voting record and I think it's a good move

I don't have to agree with someone's views to respect them. He's a really good person, and would be a great addition to the cabinet.

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Response to NEDem (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:11 AM

51. If you respect him, then you must respect McCain.

 

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #51)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:10 AM

64. Why?

Are they clones? I respect Hagel and I think McCain has become an embarassment. And I dare to assume that Hagel himself, who used ot be very close to McCain, may think something quite similar of McCain nowadays, his comments on the Palin choice back in 08 were blistering.

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Response to Inuca (Reply #64)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 11:48 AM

76. They are both conservative Republicans, that's why.

 

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Response to tyne (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:47 PM

42. Yes he is, straight shooter

I adore him.

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Response to LadyBirdJohnson (Reply #42)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:11 AM

52. You adore Chuck Hagel - and call yourself a Democrat?

 

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #52)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:09 AM

63. I call myself and American

Sorry if my comment about Senator Hagel upset you.

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:25 PM

10. No DEMOCRATS were available?!?

 

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:28 PM

12. Maybe the Hagel vetting leak to get folks to talk about someone other than Rice and Kerry (?)




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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:39 PM

15. Maybe. But Joe Biden and Hagel are close friends, from what I understand.

Maybe that has something to do with it? I'd be fine with Hagel in the cabinet, myself.

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:34 PM

13. The post election capitulation is underway.

X

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Response to MrTriumph (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:03 PM

16. It's no capitulation. Obama's trying to bring the country together with this symbolic move. n/t

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Response to jenmito (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:39 PM

26. So appointing a conservative Repug to a top cabinet position will win over the rest of the Repugs?

 

I hardly think so. They will not be the slightest bit impressed, especially since Hagel supported Bob Kerrey over his teabagger opponent. Which tells you how bad the bagger must have been, because ol' Chuck is as conservative as they come.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:24 PM

38. It will show people (Repubs. and Independents) how inclusive he is, and that's a good thing.

He wouldn't be appointing him to a position involving social issues-it's to a foreign policy position, where he's reasonable.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:18 AM

66. Hagel is very much a moderate on

foreign policy and national security issues. Also, by all accounts, very knowledgeable about these issues and able to think outside the box.

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Response to jenmito (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:53 PM

34. I agree. If the President needs to pick a repub....

to try and achieve that, Hagel's not a bad pick for DOD, imho.

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Response to jenmito (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:27 AM

56. LOL

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Response to Skittles (Reply #56)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:22 PM

78. Now THAT'S intelligent. n/t

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:38 PM

14. I think this is very good news. Chuck Hagel would strengthen the voices of restraint

Chuck Hagel is from the old Republican "realist" school like James Baker as opposed to the Neocons like Paul Wolfowitz. He would add conservative gravitas based on pragmatism to Obama's foreign policy. I think it would be a very good thing if he was chosen for a senior national security position. This choice would increase the possibility of peace and decrease the possibility of war. What can be more important that that?

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:40 PM

17. Hagel's okay with me.

I like Hagel. He is a Vietnam Veteran. AS it happens Hagel and I both served in the 9th Inf Div at about the same time...67-68. He is a moderate and has some decent ideas. No teabagger. Maybe Hagel's presence would help bring in some of the less radical republicans.

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Response to frankroberts (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:25 PM

20. One of the last realist type Repubs out there.

Sort of like Lugar.

I know Biden was friends with him during their time on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I am okay with him too. He actually endorsed Bob Kerrey over the Repub in that Senate race.

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:20 AM

67. And Sestak in PA two years ago n/t

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 07:54 PM

18. I'll be pissed if Obama picks him for SOS over Susan Rice

Fuck that shit.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:18 PM

19. Even though it looks as though Rice has ties to the Keystone Pipeline?

I find that objectionable.

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:27 PM

21. Elaborate on this

I have not heard this before...do you have more information?

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:37 PM

24. I find them equally objectionable.

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:39 PM

25. For what it's worth Chuck Hagel did endorse Democrat Bob Kerrey in the Nebraska Senate race

I also wouldn't mind if former Indiana Senator, and Republican, Richard Lugar were asked to be in the Obama cabinet.

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Response to xxxsdesdexxx (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:40 PM

27. Yeah, so did plenty of Dems.

 

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:04 PM

46. Right, but there is no reason every single person in the Obama Cabinet needs to be a Democrat

Sure there are plenty of qualified, and perhaps better choices than Chuck Hagel, but that's not to say that Hagel isn't qualified. He's actually a Republican who puts country first rather than party which is what we need more of.

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Response to xxxsdesdexxx (Reply #46)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:29 PM

47. So true

Thank you for this post. I believe there are a lot of good Republicans that can fill any vacancies in President Obama's cabinet. I hope I don't get flamed for this comment but I'm not a fan of Susan Rice becoming Secretary of State, I prefer Senator Kerry, Senator Hagel, Senator Lugar or General Clark (I know all fellas but I like them all in the cabinet, if not SoS then some where else) over Amb. Rice. President Obama should pick and choose his battles.

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Response to LadyBirdJohnson (Reply #47)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:31 AM

72. Won't get any flames from me.

I think Hagel or Lugar would be good picks for SoS since they are the last remnants of the old school foreign policy realists who the GOP has basically thrown into the trash can in recent years. These are guys with serious experience in foreign relations and could help us out in areas of the world where we as Americans tend not to understand.

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #72)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:04 PM

77. Bless you Daniel for not sending flames my way. :-)

I agree with every word in your post, sir. I'm an American citizen born and bred first (well I'm a Christian first), whatever my political leanings are is far down the list. I hope you don't change your mind after I quote this person, President Reagan said, "There is no limit to what a man can accomplish if he doesn't care who gets the credit. It's imperative that both parties work together to continue this economic recovery President Obama started with the stimulus. He can't be pushed around by the far right or left, IMHO.

To cool those flames down after that quote, Booker T. Washington said, "I will not permit no man to narrow and degrade my soul by making me hate him." In my mind I'm a member of the talent 10...lol. LOL.

Have a wonderfully blessed day.

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:45 PM

32. For those complaining about SoS

Take a note of what he currently sits on: Intelligence Advisory Board.

I wonder if there's an intelligence agency that needs a new head. Perhaps after an affair or something.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #32)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:59 PM

37. Good point! Your comment is the first that I've seen anywhere mentioning that. n/t

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:26 AM

70. I just posted that same comment above

Maybe guys named Jeff think alike?

I think he'd be a candidate to repalce Petraeus

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:11 PM

39. DU Poll on link below...


Which position do you think Chuck Hagel is being vetted for?
Poll here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251256309

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:18 PM

40. An Vid of Hagel quesioning Praetraus on Iraq.. back in the day..

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Response to Cha (Reply #40)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:52 AM

48. Was on YouTube watching video you posted, the one below (same day) was over on right side of page


Barack Obama Questions Petraeus in September 2007





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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #48)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:05 AM

49. Interesting, thanks Tx!

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 10:50 PM

43. If it is a position dealing with FR and not domestic policies,

Hagel is a pretty good pick. It does seem to be sad that John Kerry would have to leave open a senate seat to serve, because I'd rather a Democrat any day....but if there's a place for a Republican, I would agree that it would have to be a Republican that ain't crazy; and Hagel is not crazy, so that's good.

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:09 AM

50. Hagel would also be perfect for DOD if your going to slash the budget.



He would get alot more cut out of the budget than almost anyone else IMO.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #50)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:32 AM

71. good point

However, even canceling defense dept items the military doesn't need is like pulling teeth. Hagel might be one to spearhead modest cuts in the defense budget, though. And, even that will generate opposition from both parties. Ever wonder why big defense contractors like GE, UTC, etc have offices & factories all of the country and the world? The CEO of one of those companies can say to a Democratic congressional representative, "Hey, if you don't vote to authorize this new tank program, we'll have to shut down the factory in your district that employs 2,000 people." Or, "If you vote for this new tank program, we'll expand the factory in your district by 1,000 jobs, almost guaranteeing you re-election for the next two terms or more."

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Response to FrenchieCat (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:12 AM

53. And yet what divides Hagel, voting-record wise, from a CRAZY Republican? Answer: NOTHING.

 

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #53)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:48 AM

59. There is zero possibility of Obama appointing a Cabinet completely free of Republicans.

He's an advocate of Lincoln's theory of a team of rivals both in Cabinet posts and senior appointments. He's a vocal advocate of the necessity of a cabinet that includes members of the other party. His high-profile Republicans are leaving or have left...most notably Gates and Petraeus.

So the question is:

If not Chuck Hagel, what Republican would you appoint to a high post?

Because he is almost certainly going to appoint one and you're yet to suggest a better option.

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Response to MotherPetrie (Reply #53)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 08:24 AM

69. Actually not true

especially if you look at his last two years. Also it's not about appointing him to the Senate. For now actually, it's not about appointing him to anything, it's just vetting (if true, and not just a rumor).

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:19 AM

54. Finally, Republicans will understand that they can trust us again

Surely we can't blame the Republicans for feeling hurt after we forced job-killing socialist programs down the throats of Americans. Things like Social Security, Medicare, and public highways were a bitter pill for them.

President Obama has gone a long way towards repairing the damage, and history will remember him for it. This is just another step in the healing process.

We need healing, not partisanship. And most of all, we need lots of austerity. Lots.

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:32 AM

57. LOVE YOU MANNY

YOU NAIL IT

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Response to Skittles (Reply #57)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:36 AM

58. Yes, I'm very smart. And above all, sensible, pragmatic and

Republican.

Warmest regards,

Third-Way Manny

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:36 AM

74. What does any of that have to do with foreign policy?

Is Hagel being considered to head the deficit commission? Lets get real here, please.

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 01:26 AM

55. FUCK NO

BAD move

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Response to Skittles (Reply #55)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:35 AM

60. Petraeus is a registered Republican - if he's replaced by Hagel then it's not any big deal.


Chuck Hagel is currently the Chairman of President Obama's Intelligence Advisory Board
Assumed office: October 28, 2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Hagel

Something that the articles that came out today did not mention is that it is a possibility that Hagel is being vetted to replace Petraeus as Director of the CIA.


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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 02:55 AM

61. 'Hagel was a harsh critic of George W. Bush's foreign policy,

especially his decision to invade and occupy Iraq, which he once called "an absolute replay of Vietnam."

In the years since, he's remained a strong critic of Republicans in Congress.

"Now the Republican Party is in the hands of the right, I would say the extreme right, more than ever before. You've got a Republican Party that is having difficulty facing up to the fact that if you look at what happened during the first 8 years of the century, it was under Republican direction," Hagel told The Cable in a May interview. "The Republican Party is dealing with this schizophrenia. It was the Republican leadership that got us into this mess. If Nixon or Eisenhower were alive today, they would be run out of the party."

"Reagan would be stunned by the party today," Hagel said.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/11/28/chuck_hagel_being_vetted_for_national_security_post

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Response to elleng (Reply #61)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:34 AM

73. And Hagel was spot on.

All this trashing of the guy on this thread is ridiculous. He's not being considered for a job as an economic adviser, this is intelligence and foreign relations. The guy is no neo-con, which is my litmus test when it comes to foreign policy. He's got experience in this field and should be seriously considered if it helps advance our interests. You know, country before party?

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Response to Daniel537 (Reply #73)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:39 PM

79. Yes. Thanks.

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Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 09:14 PM

81. We have democrats who could do the job

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