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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:15 PM Nov 2012

So, what exactly is the cover up and what did Obama gain from such cover up?

I mean, I could see there being an outrage if they covered up the fact the attacks happened in the first place ... but what exactly are they covering up and why would they even need to cover up this situation? We're debating semantics here. I mean, does it really change anything if Rice had called it a terrorist act on the Sunday talk shows - and linked it to al Qaeda? Of course not. So, I'm at a loss how this is even important.

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So, what exactly is the cover up and what did Obama gain from such cover up? (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 OP
is that an attempt to apply logic to a republican smear? unblock Nov 2012 #1
This is why McCain and his buddies are simply looking like assholes right now. Jennicut Nov 2012 #2
Right, only 'cover-up' is for CIA operation which, elleng Nov 2012 #4
Looking like assholes davidpdx Nov 2012 #23
I don't get it either DI Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2012 #3
Shut up!!! Why do you hate America?????? JoePhilly Nov 2012 #5
Republicans are champion equivocators. immoderate Nov 2012 #6
This Takes The Cake Hypocrisy Wise colsohlibgal Nov 2012 #7
republicans wanted to make Obama look bad for the election. What I read recently and makes sense is Sunlei Nov 2012 #8
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #12
Obama won and Rice is African American Cali_Democrat Nov 2012 #9
They take these words that have a ring to them, like EC Nov 2012 #10
And those names sound so foreign Generic Brad Nov 2012 #21
You see? Even you have questions! jberryhill Nov 2012 #11
The cover up is this............................ busterbrown Nov 2012 #13
The GOP "logic": Obama did not want to admit AQ is still active so he blamed the video. DCBob Nov 2012 #14
Obama covered up AQ so he could win an election LeftInTX Nov 2012 #15
And M$M media feeds it ladym55 Nov 2012 #16
I have the same questions as you. What the hell is the cover-up? hrmjustin Nov 2012 #17
IT IS A MADE UP courseofhistory Nov 2012 #18
And so the Repugnants moved the goal post again today. politicaljunkie41910 Nov 2012 #19
They're covering it up because if we keep asking the right questions Telly Savalas Nov 2012 #20
THANK YOU! SouthernDonkey Nov 2012 #22
Well, you see, Obama is black. Arkana Nov 2012 #24

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
2. This is why McCain and his buddies are simply looking like assholes right now.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:19 PM
Nov 2012

It is pure politics. The CIA had an operation in Libya it was trying to keep quiet but other then that, there is really nothing with Benghazi. It shows that Repubs are not serious about working with President Obama on anything. Not even the moderate ones.

elleng

(130,870 posts)
4. Right, only 'cover-up' is for CIA operation which,
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:23 PM
Nov 2012

one would think, repugs, and ALL SANE PEOPLE, would recognize should be kept SECRET!

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,411 posts)
3. I don't get it either DI
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:22 PM
Nov 2012

We're over 2 months into this and I still don't get it. We just hear about this alleged "cover up" but nobody is putting into words what exactly the cover up is and the whys, hows, and whos of it.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
6. Republicans are champion equivocators.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:30 PM
Nov 2012

It's arguing about what words mean to deflect from real issues. And it can generalize into what can be considered "an offense." (As in John McCain can claim no more than "his feelings were hurt" by Susan Rice's statements. But his feelings are very important apparently.)

I think what's being "covered up" is that the administration spent time looking for good rationalizations for the security and intelligence breach, and didn't find one, but they attempted to string out the doubt "in hopes of."

--imm

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
7. This Takes The Cake Hypocrisy Wise
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:34 PM
Nov 2012

Where were McCain and Graham and others when 9/11 happened? - which on a damage, death, and suffering scale was way, way worse and happened in the US - with many disturbing issues around it.

What if Obama had been president then and secretly flew a bunch of Bin Laden family members out of the US? OMG!

If the mainstream news had onions of any sort they'd call them out. It's maddening.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. republicans wanted to make Obama look bad for the election. What I read recently and makes sense is
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:52 PM
Nov 2012

Repubs want Kerry to replace Mrs. Clinton as SOS, so they can take Kerrys' position for one of them.

I also think a lot of mudding happens/happened because someone trolled the most popular internet Imam with that subtitled stupid movie trailer and added a lot of kaos one week before the 9-11 date. Whoever backed that anti-America action sure doesn't want to be exposed.

Nothing to cover-up except the corrupt trouble maker republican actions.

EC

(12,287 posts)
10. They take these words that have a ring to them, like
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 04:14 PM
Nov 2012

Benghazi or Pelosi...and then they just say them over and over until their minions start repeating them. They don't have to mean anything...they're just so proud of themselves because they can say those hard words...

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
11. You see? Even you have questions!
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 05:18 PM
Nov 2012

These are exactly the kinds of questions the administration is stonewalling!

Susan Rice refused to tell McCain what was the cover up and how the administration would have benefitted from covering up the things they covered up!

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
13. The cover up is this............................
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:06 PM
Nov 2012

The Obama administration doesn't have a clue on how to fight the war on terror..
If they didn't know from the onset that this was an Al-Qaeda attack then how
do you expect them to protect our Country as a whole from the terrorists, world
wide?

This is the dumb-ass message they are trying to get across. You actually have to dumb yourself
down to a snail's mentality in order to actually believe this Shit! Which unfortunately 47%
of the population is able to do.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
14. The GOP "logic": Obama did not want to admit AQ is still active so he blamed the video.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 06:44 PM
Nov 2012

Dumb I know but they are convinced that is it.

LeftInTX

(25,277 posts)
15. Obama covered up AQ so he could win an election
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:07 PM
Nov 2012

Just like Nixon covered up Watergate so he could win an election.

(Pardon my very very simpleton explanation. I think that might be the repugs take. They want to make it look like "Watergate", so the American public will turn against Obama and think he's another Richard Nixon. It doesn't make sense to an educated brain, but the republicans aren't trying to appeal to educated Americans )

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
16. And M$M media feeds it
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:09 PM
Nov 2012

Just watched NBC Nightly News with breathless coverage of Republican Senators and their concerns. Dems got "some say" mention.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
17. I have the same questions as you. What the hell is the cover-up?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:12 PM
Nov 2012

There was an attack, and the president called it terrorism. It took some time to figure out what happened, and we are looking for those who did it. There are legit questions, but when they start off with this Foxnews Conspiracy stuff than you forgo the right to be called serious.

courseofhistory

(801 posts)
18. IT IS A MADE UP
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:17 PM
Nov 2012

CONTROVERSY which started as an attempt to affect the votes for Obama and now the republicans are trying to distract from the fact that they are stupid and won't do the American people's business PLUS they want to try to put Obama at a disadvantage both politically and popularity wise. But this is/will backfire on them because voters will rmember this BS at midterms!

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
19. And so the Repugnants moved the goal post again today.
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:35 PM
Nov 2012

So now they're troubled about an attack on our Embassy in Africa which took place in 1998. So now at least we're making progress. We're on the same continent. Now if we can only get to the same decade.

Telly Savalas

(9,841 posts)
20. They're covering it up because if we keep asking the right questions
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 11:19 PM
Nov 2012

we'll discover that Obama is really an operative for Abu Nazir.

SouthernDonkey

(256 posts)
22. THANK YOU!
Thu Nov 29, 2012, 12:01 AM
Nov 2012

I too have asked this very question since the beginning of their accusations! What in the hell could the administration gain by covering anything up??? It's never made sense to me. I'm glad I'm not the only one who see's the folly in the mere accusations of it. I said from the start that it was ridiculous to expect anyone in a position to get privileged information to be able to share it with the public anyway, simply as a matter of national security. But that really is a moot point considering there is no reason to cover anything up to begin with. They may as well be jumping on her because she used bad grammar.

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