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Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:18 PM

Rachael Maddow is saying John Mccain and Lindsey Graham

are attacking Susan Rice in an attempt to derail her nomination so that John Kerry will be the new pick which will open up a seat for Scott Brown. I think I said that right.

I think she's right.

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Reply Rachael Maddow is saying John Mccain and Lindsey Graham (Original post)
moobu2 Nov 2012 OP
mucifer Nov 2012 #1
wisteria Nov 2012 #9
BainsBane Nov 2012 #2
We People Nov 2012 #19
still_one Nov 2012 #3
wisteria Nov 2012 #8
Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2012 #4
wisteria Nov 2012 #7
Dawgs Nov 2012 #20
Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2012 #22
wisteria Nov 2012 #5
Agschmid Nov 2012 #15
iemitsu Nov 2012 #16
corneliamcgillicutty Nov 2012 #6
GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #10
JRLeft Nov 2012 #12
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #11
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #13
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #14
CTyankee Nov 2012 #17
RudynJack Nov 2012 #18
WI_DEM Nov 2012 #21
Sunlei Nov 2012 #23
PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #24

Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:20 PM

1. The msm seems to like the story. It looks like their plan is working.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:34 PM

9. Senator Kerry is the better choice for SOS.

Ms. Rice is to be commended for her work, but I personally do not think she is the right person to be our top diplomat-especially not during these turbulent times in the Middle East. What is she going to do, give those who do not go along with her the finger?

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:21 PM

2. that had occurred to me.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:55 AM

19. Someone said that on TV the other night - it was Lawrence O'Donnell, I think

It makes sense. And probably one reason McCain has the role that he does is so that people will be distracted by the angle of him being bitter at Obama for his defeat in 2008 and Graham is just Generally Pissed Off anyway.

Leave it to GOP to try to ruin someone's career (that of Rice) in order to give themselves another Senate seat.

Nothing they do surprises me anymore.

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:21 PM

3. I don't. Kerry will stay in the Senate because we need him there. mccain and graham are slowly

destroying their party

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Response to still_one (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:31 PM

8. Maybe , just maybe, it should be Senator Kerry's decision to continue being a Senator.

There are enough Dem votes that we can get along without his. The idea that he has to stay in the senate so that Brown doesn't get reelected is bogus.

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:23 PM

4. Which begs the question: Why are Democrats so afraid of Scott Brown? Are there no viable Dems in MA?

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:29 PM

7. Exactly, and what Democrats are so afraid of Mr. pick-up truck? n/t

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Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 08:46 AM

20. Not any that are as popular as Scott Brown with Indys. n/t

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:31 PM

22. Well, if there is absolutely NO viable Democrat to run against this charlatan in Massachusetts,

then we deserve to lose the seat. If you're telling me that the Democratic Party has no attrative Democrats, then we are screwed.

Luckily I don't believe you.

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:28 PM

5. I think Maddow is a smart woman, but she is wrong about this.

At least the part about opening a seat and Brown running. That idea is not well thought out at all. We can do without Kerry's one vote in the Senate, and Brown is not that popular this time out. A better Democrat would be chosen and the excitment of taking a Kennedy seat has been exhausted.

But, I will say that both McCain and Graham have worked with Senator Kerry and they have a lot of respect for him and the way he conducts business. So, I am inclined to agree that Senator Kerry should have been the number one choice for this post-not Rice. And, my opinion is not in anyway shape or form, based on race.

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Response to wisteria (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:40 PM

15. Also MA could just change the law to appoint again, rather than elect.

They switched it in 2004 (I believe?), and with a DEM controlled... well everything... they could just switch it back.

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Response to wisteria (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:05 AM

16. I respect Senator Kerry too but the fact that

both McCain and Graham do and like the way he conducts business makes me doubt that he is the better candidate.
We don't need any more of the same.

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:28 PM

6. I totally agree--BTW, it took me

A lot longer to get that thought together--plus I text like my fingers are webbed.

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:40 PM

10. Rachel's from Massachusetts.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:54 PM

12. She use to live there but she is from Castro Valley about 5 minutes from

Oakland, CA.

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:48 PM

11. Agree!

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 09:56 PM

13. I say Kerry should stay where he is

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Tue Nov 27, 2012, 11:00 PM

14. Parlor game theorizing

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:21 AM

17. Of course, but Rachel does have a point and I must admit I suspected the same.

However, we probably don't know the half of it, as you say. Mere speculation...but based on wise fears...

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:03 AM

18. But it doesn't gain the repubs

much of anything to pick off one seat. And McConnell and Boehner have proven themselves to be less politically adept than the President. Kerry won't take the role if his seat's in danger.

They're going after Rice because that's all they can do. They have nothing. Their agenda has been solidly rejected, and all they can do is try to gin up outrage over a non-issue. They learned nothing from the elections. It's still "attack, attack, attack". They didn't learn the lesson when they tried it with Clinton, either. They're just frustrated, tired children throwing yet another tantrum.

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 09:37 AM

21. Even if that is true aren't there any others to consider than Kerry or Rice?

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:58 PM

23. makes sense. Best for America, Mrs. Rice and Mrs. Clinton work as a team for a couple months. then

Mrs. Rice is SOS full time. And Kerry keeps his hard earned!!! elected seat.

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Response to moobu2 (Original post)

Wed Nov 28, 2012, 03:09 PM

24. I have a question as to whether SB can run

I don't know what the rules are in MA for running for office, but doesn't one senator represent half the state and the other senator represent the other half of the state? And don't you have to LIVE in the district you represent?
If that is so, wouldn't SB have to move to be able to run for Kerry's seat should it become open?
IF that is so, wouldn't that appear a bit opportunistic and couldn't that opportunism be used against him in an election?

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