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Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:43 AM

Grover Norquist warns Dems, GOP: The anti-tax pledge will hold


The anti-tax zealot says Republicans will not cave, and won't be fooled by Democrats into raising taxes

BY DAVID DALEY


Grover Norquist has a warning for anyone who thinks the influential anti-tax advocate has lost power in Washington.

“No one is caving,” the head of the Americans for Tax Reform told the Wall Street Journal, in a wide-ranging weekend interview.

Norquist — who built his power by getting hundreds of House Republicans and Congressional candidates to sign a pledge vowing to never raise taxes — has been perceived to be on the defensive since House Speaker John Boehner and even Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell suggested they would be open to new revenues in a compromise to avoid the so-called “fiscal cliff.”

In the weeks since the election, as talks centered around a compromise, fear of violating Norquist’s pledge appeared to diminish. But Norquist insists that the power dynamic has not changed, despite the re-election of President Obama and the apparent willingness of the GOP leadership to work with him to head off mandatory defense spending cuts and the expiration of the Bush tax cuts.

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http://www.salon.com/2012/11/24/grover_norquist_warns_dems_gop_the_anti_tax_pledge_will_hold/

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Reply Grover Norquist warns Dems, GOP: The anti-tax pledge will hold (Original post)
DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
lunatica Nov 2012 #1
TheCowsCameHome Nov 2012 #2
whistler162 Nov 2012 #22
Vogon_Glory Nov 2012 #3
John2 Nov 2012 #11
dballance Nov 2012 #4
Tutonic Nov 2012 #5
hollysmom Nov 2012 #6
think Nov 2012 #7
SoapBox Nov 2012 #8
Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2012 #9
John2 Nov 2012 #20
aquart Nov 2012 #10
tarheelsunc Nov 2012 #12
Coyotl Nov 2012 #13
Texin Nov 2012 #14
Beaverhausen Nov 2012 #15
rock Nov 2012 #16
Wounded Bear Nov 2012 #17
Zorro Nov 2012 #18
DonViejo Nov 2012 #30
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #19
notadmblnd Nov 2012 #21
WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #23
Retrograde Nov 2012 #24
CBHagman Nov 2012 #25
fizzgig Nov 2012 #32
Blue Owl Nov 2012 #26
BeyondGeography Nov 2012 #27
Drale Nov 2012 #28
BuelahWitch Nov 2012 #35
tblue37 Nov 2012 #38
HowHasItComeToThis Nov 2012 #29
Sunlei Nov 2012 #31
warrprayer Nov 2012 #33
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #34
Third Doctor Nov 2012 #36
tblue37 Nov 2012 #37
Sheepshank Nov 2012 #39
ancianita Nov 2012 #40
Jennicut Nov 2012 #41
Arkana Nov 2012 #42
Mz Pip Nov 2012 #43

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:47 AM

1. If Norquist has bothered to reply to the great unwashed masses he's in trouble

As far as I know he's never felt the need before.

I take this as a hopeful sign of Norquist knowing he's losing his grip on power and is getting desperate to spin his message personally for a change. I smell the slightly nauseating stench of growing desperation.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:53 AM

2. I live for the day when Norquist is finally in the trash heap.

He has overstayed his welcome.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:56 PM

22. yes grover should join his better namesake...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 08:59 AM

3. Grover's Power Base Is Eroding--He Just Doesn't See It

I think that Grover's power base might finally be crumbling. It's not just those of us who see Norquist as a class warrior leading many of the troops of the top one percent and those of us lesser folk who depend on government pensions who worry about the effects of political blackmail by a sociopathic whack-job on their pensions and medical assistance, but I believe that many less-reactionary people might FINALLY be wondering if Norquist's notions might be dragging the US from the ranks of the top-ranked countries into something resembling Argentina or post-Soviet Russia.

Even some of the "bidnessmen" who have been reflexively funding the GOP over the last few decades might have woken up to the point where they've noticed the financial crises abroad and that Norquist/Tea Party antics might bring the same sort of (stuff) home to our own shores.

I think that keeping the federal government solvent is a patriotic position. Don't you?



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Response to Vogon_Glory (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:18 AM

11. You

 

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are correct, I call him the little Napoleon. He is delusional about his power. He is forgetting the other ten ton gorilla in the room. That ten ton gorilla are the people that elected the Democrats and President Obama which means us.

I would explain it to little Napoleon this way: The Republicans don't have to lift a finger and taxes will be raised. The reason why, is because that ten ton Gorilla is telling the Democrats and President Obama to let the tax cuts expire and Norquist's puppets will deal with the ten ton gorilla in the next election. We will see who will pay if they didn't get the message.

We did not elect President Obama or any Democrats to cave in to you or your supporters. Seeing how Social Security, Obama care and Medicare are not in the cuts, you will lose the War in the end. Not only that, in the long term, your Party is in danger of becoming irrelevant, if you have not noticed. It only takes patience and a matter of time. You are mistaken , if you think the American people gave you some mandate, to cut their entitlements or safety net. The majority, did no such thing in November.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:05 AM

4. Most Cordially...

I think Grover needs to go fornicate with himself.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:07 AM

5. Grover=Dinosaur

n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:09 AM

6. no one is folding?

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he man has to watch something other than FOX "news"

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:15 AM

7. Grover's Cliff?



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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 09:58 AM

8. Hey Shithead Grover,

Fuck off...It's over!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:09 AM

9. Then over the cliff we go...................



and remember, he only cares about CORPORATE TAXES. If rates go up on middle-or-lower income people, he's perfectly fine with THAT.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:37 PM

20. Yeah,

 

many in the middleclass and poor say go over the cliff. Recoup all the money and return some of it to entitlements. Grover can't do a thing about it. The part you don't return, pay down the Deficit. We'll begin kicking them out of office, starting 2014, if they don't want to compromise and take our offer. We dictate the terms period. Take it or leave it, your move.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:18 AM

10. That treasonous bastard has wrecked our infrastructure and left us naked to our enemies.

He needs to live under a Red Cross blanket on Long Island.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:25 AM

12. Grover, you are losing. You compromise, or taxes WILL increase more than you would like.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 10:49 AM

13. Yeah, obey Grover or he will send Karl Rove after your election LOL

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:00 AM

14. I'm sure a lot of the rethugs who got their asses whipped in their congressional

races would like to have a little chat the Grover about now. If the idjits don't realize that sticking with Norquist will all but cement the Dems retaking the House in 2016, then let them lick his posturing ass all they want.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:31 AM

15. Just like the Kardashians, I don't understand why anyone pays attention to Norquist

Who is he and why does anyone care what he says or who took his pledge?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:31 AM

16. OMG what if a RepubliCON went back on his word!!??

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:36 AM

17. Cue the Hitler in the bunker vid....

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 11:52 AM

18. I wonder how much teabilly support Grover would have

if those nitwits knew he's married to a Muslim woman, and reportedly converted to that faith to receive the blessings of her family.

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Response to Zorro (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:47 PM

30. Quite a few all ready know;...

they are trying to drive him out of CPAC. I can't think of the guy's name leading the charge but Michelle Bachman is one of his followers.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:25 PM

19. only traitors signed the norquist pledge

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:39 PM

21. Just think, it won't be too long before we see little Grover lying on the floor with hands and legs

flailing in the air- throwing a real, honest to gosh soiled brat temper tantrum.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 01:55 PM

24. And who died and made him king?

I don't recall Norquist being elected to anything: why does he have so much power? And why don't Democrats run against him more?

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:22 PM

25. He got zero votes.

That should be our talking point. "No one elected Grover Norquist."

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:49 PM

32. that has always been my question

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:27 PM

26. The Bearded Turd hath spoken

And it hath stunk.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:30 PM

27. He also knows who ate the strawberries

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:33 PM

28. What does Grover have on these people

that they fear to break Norquiest's pledge? He has no real power and he defiantly has no legal authority.

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Response to Drale (Reply #28)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:12 PM

35. They are probably scared that he will help fund challengers for their seats

If they won't sign his pledge, he can find a fundie teabagger who will.

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Response to Drale (Reply #28)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:54 PM

38. He's just an enforcer. See my reply #37 below. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:48 PM

31. Bush tax breaks WILL EXPIRE, so jump off the cliff Grover, America is done with YOU!!

and take your 'Grover-Groupies' republicans with you.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:56 PM

33. hey Grover

... goodbye!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 02:56 PM

34. I can't wait to see him cry when the tax cuts go bye.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:40 PM

36. All I have to say is..

Fuck you Grover!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 05:48 PM

37. He's just an enforcer. The real power behind his threats is

the cabal of insanely rich SOBs who will fund the primary challeges to any Republican who doesn't toe the anti-tax line. The rich jerks also coopt Republicans (and many Dems!) by dangling lucrative positions in front of them for when they are no longer in elected office.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 01:15 AM

39. Grover's attempt at relevance is now solely based on an antithesis to Sesame Street Characterization

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 07:45 AM

40. Is he a bag man for the country's "owners"? What's he got on these people, anyway.

This is the most evil, arrogant posture of any individual in these times. How can it "hold."

This isn't about "caving" to a "pledge," and he's a total idiot to say that It's about the "elected" pooling the electorate's tax resources to do what's best for the entire population, not his fraternity of pledges and their central command. Fuck this guy.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 08:32 AM

41. He has had his hand in every major moment of the Repub party of the last 30 years or so.

From Reagan to Newt's Contract with America, Norquist was there. But he risks irrelevancy since the Repubs lost back to back Presidential elections. Good riddance. I think his influence is going to wane. If Repubs keep losing, why listen to someone leading you to lose?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 04:39 PM

42. Yes, and the Americans have not reached Baghdad, Saddam has everything under control,

and we're taking down the statues to have them cleaned.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Nov 25, 2012, 04:51 PM

43. Or what?

Maybe Grover will hold his breath until he turns blue.

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