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Fri Nov 23, 2012, 02:32 PM

Rove’s plan won’t work: Don’t count on Latino social conservatism


Republicans think it will be easy to come back -- just appeal to culturally conservative Latinos! It will fail

BY IRIN CARMON


Drop the anti-immigrant rhetoric! Focus on the “family values” that Latinos supposedly share with the party! But that magic solution to Republicans’ demographic problem that some conservatives are touting — which conveniently allows the party to resist moderating on so-called social issues like gay marriage and abortion — is unlikely to pan out.

Two days after Latino voters broadly rejected the Republican Party, Charles Krauthammer saw reason for optimism. Latinos, he said, “should be a natural Republican constituency: striving immigrant community, religious, Catholic, family-oriented and socially conservative (on abortion, for example.)” George W. Bush and Karl Rove found a way to approach 40 percent of the Latino vote; Romney barely netted half that. So Republicans, facing a demographic time bomb as their base of white men ages, have comforted themselves by thinking all they really need to do is perform as well as Bush did among Latinos to get near the White House again.

Whether or not Republicans have any chance of capturing more than a tiny fraction of the Latino vote, Krauthammer (and the straw-grasping Republicans who echoed him) shouldn’t take Latinos’ conservatism, including their views on abortion, for granted.

First of all, being religious doesn’t mean you vote according to the dictates of your church, and Latino voters have consistently told pollsters that they don’t. Last December, a Latino Decisions poll found that 53 percent of Latinos said religion would have no impact at all on their vote. And only 14 percent agreed that “politics is more about moral issues such as abortion, family values, and same-sex marriage.” In fact, exit polling from the election this month showed that Latinos were more likely than other voters to support same-sex marriage recognition.

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DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
Wounded Bear Nov 2012 #1
DonViejo Nov 2012 #2
Hippo_Tron Nov 2012 #3
smorkingapple Nov 2012 #4
sarcasmo Nov 2012 #5
SpartanDem Nov 2012 #6
Iggo Nov 2012 #7

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 03:21 PM

1. Didn't they already ride that wave as far as it could go?

I thought that was the basis of the Latino support for Dubya.

It would appear that Latinos, as a group have learned a couple of things:

1. Republicans really don't want to change anything re: social issues. They use them as bait.

2. Republicans don't really like them, expecially those of the community that are working poor.

The Democratic counter is actually pretty simple. Talk to, with, and about the Latino community with mutual respect, and they appreciate it. Try to treat them like a bunch of religious lemmings and you lose them.

By and large, Democratic pols of the Hispanic persuasion are smart and have ideas, not all of which toe some arbitrary party line. Republican Hispanics tend to be not much more than dark skinned conservative hacks performing tricks for their masters.

Sorry, but the only "token" Hispanics I see have R's behind their names.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 03:27 PM

2. Yep! They road that horse before but it sounds like ...

they want to try it again. If the R's want to follow Rove into hell, so be it.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 04:14 PM

3. I know (white) people who are as anti-choice as Paul Ryan

They're still Democrats because they understand that Republicans are the party of the rich. For some people, abortion simply is not their number one priority. That's why the pro-life shit is going to have diminishing returns.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 06:04 PM

4. Bush's 2004 numbers inflated because of terrorism fear. They'll never get that close again

Amazing people still think that wasnt an aberration but something that can be replicated

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Fri Nov 23, 2012, 06:31 PM

5. Thanks for not having a clue KKKarl, Democratic President Hillary 2016.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:38 PM

6. They seem to think merely putting on a sombrero

will get Latinos to flock to them. They think minorities don't vote based on issues, that if they trot some arch conservative Latino, they'll get more votes basely solely on that candidates heritage

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Response to SpartanDem (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 24, 2012, 03:59 PM

7. Yep. They think we're stupid.

And what they don't understand is...we KNOW they think we're stupid.

In fact, that's what we're saying in Spanish when they think we're talking about them...lol.

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