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Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:16 AM

Should Eric Holder Have Told Obama About the Petraeus Scandal Sooner?


by James Warren Nov 19, 2012 4:45 AM EST

The attorney general defends his decision to delay informing Obama about the Petraeus probe. But several ex-Justice officials think Holder erred. James Warren reports.


When Attorney General Eric Holder kept word from President Obama about investigating then-Central Intelligence Agency Director David Petraeus, he took what he deemed a high road in following protocols governing when it’s appropriate to inform the White House of criminal probes.

He might also have been displaying lousy judgment, according to several former high-ranking Justice Department officials. “Bad judgment on a matter of large consequence,” says one former high-ranking department official.

Several former Justice officials, all Democrats, agreed. All declined to have their names used. And they neither disparaged Holder’s honesty nor impugned his motives. But while they conceded that a strict constructionist take on department rules or perceived policy could justify not telling Obama far earlier, to a person these sources feel the Petraeus case underscores the evolution of needlessly rigid practice that ill serves any White House.

There is a long and tawdry history of politicization of the relationship between the White House and both the Justice Department and FBI. The most vivid offenders included longtime FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who illegally collected personal information on individuals for political reasons, and President Richard Nixon, whose attempts to misuse the CIA and FBI were central to the Watergate scandal.

Complete article:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/19/should-eric-holder-have-told-obama-about-petraeus-scandal-sooner.html

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Reply Should Eric Holder Have Told Obama About the Petraeus Scandal Sooner? (Original post)
DonViejo Nov 2012 OP
still_one Nov 2012 #1
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #2
still_one Nov 2012 #7
LadyBirdJohnson Nov 2012 #3
GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #5
Zen Democrat Nov 2012 #4
democrattotheend Nov 2012 #6
Floyd_Gondolli Nov 2012 #8
Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #9
Evergreen Emerald Nov 2012 #10
EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #11
Evergreen Emerald Nov 2012 #12

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:20 AM

1. He should have told the President, and personally my gut tells me he did. Regardless, it would not

have changed anything

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Response to still_one (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:28 AM

2. So you figure Holder's taking the rap?

As in taking one for the team?

Who knows?

Anyway, Rice was putting out the official CIA line, which had been crafted to preserve certain intelligence interests, and contained at most a relatively inconsequential error.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:20 PM

7. I do not know, if not, then he was not doing his job and should.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:37 AM

3. President Obama interfering with an FBI investigation

That is what would be on the Fix News Network if General Holder shared the investigation with President Obama. I thought we have separation of powers in our Country. I thought the FBI and Attorney General's office was an intiity unto it's self. I know General Holder is appointed by President Obama but he is suppose to be beyond politics (which he is). He did the right thing and the right-wing is steaming mad about it.

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Response to LadyBirdJohnson (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 12:38 PM

5. More than likely Holder was too busy disrupting Granny's weed supply ...

to give the Petraeus flap any notice.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:38 AM

4. I thought there was a long-standing firewall between the White House and Justice.

Where did that go? Or did it go?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 12:47 PM

6. I don't think so

It sounds like he followed protocol, and did not inform the president because they had no evidence of a national security threat. He also protected the president so that he can't be accused of covering anything up.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 06:54 PM

8. He's got a lot on his mind

 

For instance, getting ready for his big "fuck you" to the citizens of Colorado and Washington.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 06:55 PM

9. Repubs would try to impeach both Obama and Holder

if he had informed the President.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:33 PM

10. That is crazy. Separation of powers

Eric holder...law enforcement.....is separate from the executive branch of government. It is part of the fundament of our constitution. That is part of the checks and balances of our system.

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Response to Evergreen Emerald (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:45 PM

11. I've posted this on another thread but please listen

to Obama addressing this very issue last night during his speech in Yangon, Myanmar.

Go to the 10:15 point on the video.

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Response to EmeraldCityGrl (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:00 PM

12. Excellent....that is exactly right. And those asshole reps know it.

I am sick of the constant lies.

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