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Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:21 PM

It's over: Murphy actually gained 274 votes, West 34

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They said after all info was uploaded that Murphy was the winner with the new tapes after everything was all uploaded. I am listening live with Gary. They will be posting this information soon for the public. West only gained 34 and Murphy gained 274

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Reply It's over: Murphy actually gained 274 votes, West 34 (Original post)
riverwalker Nov 2012 OP
Jennicut Nov 2012 #1
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #37
calimary Nov 2012 #55
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #2
mckara Nov 2012 #8
JHB Nov 2012 #50
progressoid Nov 2012 #76
SDjack Nov 2012 #3
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #53
merrily Nov 2012 #77
FlaGranny Nov 2012 #81
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #86
merrily Nov 2012 #89
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #87
merrily Nov 2012 #90
Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #91
Don C. Nuttin Nov 2012 #56
SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #71
klook Nov 2012 #83
PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #85
freshwest Nov 2012 #4
Heather MC Nov 2012 #6
freshwest Nov 2012 #17
riverwalker Nov 2012 #5
Indykatie Nov 2012 #7
William769 Nov 2012 #9
Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #10
peace frog Nov 2012 #14
Stevepol Nov 2012 #11
zeemike Nov 2012 #18
LisaL Nov 2012 #20
deurbano Nov 2012 #57
zeemike Nov 2012 #68
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Doctor_J Nov 2012 #15
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No Vested Interest Nov 2012 #22
Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #23
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Chipper Chat Nov 2012 #25
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elleng Nov 2012 #29
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Faygo Kid Nov 2012 #30
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Cha Nov 2012 #33
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heaven05 Nov 2012 #88
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JoeDuck Nov 2012 #42
calimary Nov 2012 #58
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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:22 PM

1. Great news!

So long West...he was the worst of the worst.

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:12 PM

37. +1000 nt

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Response to Jennicut (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:07 PM

55. Unfortunately, I doubt we will have heard the last of this asshole.

I still wanna hear about his security clearance that was SO much bigger than President Obama's.

Good riddance to bad rubbish in the meantime, though! Have they counted this in the overall House numbers? Anybody know if this makes the GOP totals drop by another one? I'd heard that the Democratic House seat gains had gone from eight seats to ten. Wondering if this was among those already counted, since he did show up at the freshman sessions.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:23 PM

2. West don't let the door hit you in the ass!

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:52 PM

8. Don't Let the Doorknob Hit Ya' Where the Dog Should Have Bit Ya'

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:54 PM

50. Naah, fine with me if it hits him. What matters is he's out.

Of course, if it leaves a mark...

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Response to JHB (Reply #50)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:47 AM

76. Fine with me too!

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:27 PM

3. Expect West to move to another district and make another run in '14. He loves

power too much to give up being in the House.

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Response to SDjack (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:02 PM

53. More importantly,

this asshole has always been a government dependent. His father was career military and his only job after the military was as a high school teacher and a consultant to a defense contractor.

Georgia, his birth state, has already asked him to run in one of their districts in 2014.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #53)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:56 AM

77. Putting school teachers and members of the military in the same group with welfare recipients?

If teachers and members of the military do their respective jobs, I would say government is dependent on them, not vice versa.

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Response to merrily (Reply #77)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:46 AM

81. No, he's putting them in the same group as

government employees, i.e., people who earn their living by working for the so-called "useless" government. In other words they are all dependent on the government just as much as welfare recipients.

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Response to FlaGranny (Reply #81)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:06 AM

86. He was my representative

until I moved. His constant rants about 'government' dependency drove me wild....

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Response to FlaGranny (Reply #81)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:03 PM

89. That is just about what I said the poster was doing; and I already expressed my thoughts

on equating people in the military and teachers with welfare recipients.

There is no comparison.

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Response to merrily (Reply #77)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:12 AM

87. No, no, no.

West was my representative until I moved 11 months ago. He is a big "small government, private sector" proponent. It drove me wild
as everything he has emanated from the government.

Government money is government money, regardless of who receives it, btw. Welfare stimulates the economy even in good economic times.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #87)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:09 PM

90. I realize what West is, including his hypocrisy. I also realize the nature of government money (our

money) does not change. However, I think lumping the military and teachers in with welfare recipients is wrong.

I am not condemning welfare recipients. People in need should get welfare., However, welfare recipients are different from people who work.

Welfare stimulates the economy even in good economic times.


Yes, but the discussion was not about stimulating the economy?

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Response to merrily (Reply #90)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:19 PM

91. Do you really want to say

that people who receive welfare are somehow of less value than those who teach school or serve in the military?

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Response to SDjack (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:07 PM

56. Don't answer until you've seen Frontenac, Allen.

I believe he could take out Lynn Jenkins in a Republican primary in the Kansas 2nd.

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Response to SDjack (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 08:59 PM

71. He was personally invited by the Georgia Rep party chair to

move to her state and she'd get him in somewhere. Cause he's such a man of stature and wondermessness.

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/11/13/your-daily-jolt-an-invitation-to-allen-west-from-the-ga-gop/

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Response to SaveAmerica (Reply #71)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:21 AM

83. Hope this dumbass tries to run in John Lewis's district.

We could use some more entertainment around here.

Unfortunately, there are some Ga. districts where this idiot could find enough kindred spirits to win.

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Response to SDjack (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 10:02 AM

85. Just Hope....

He doesn't decide to run for Senate in his district...

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:42 PM

4. Thanks, please update with West's concession speech! LOL!

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Response to freshwest (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:48 PM

6. PLEASE let there be tears, I love it when the crazies cry

:lol:

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Response to Heather MC (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:07 PM

17. Maybe DUers could chip in and send him a coupon for a 'Tombstone' pizza!

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:43 PM

5. hope it's confirmed soon

reading teabagger Tweets is making my head hurt.

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:51 PM

7. I Suspected West Would End Up Losing by Wider Margin - Good Result

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:53 PM

9. Great!

I can't wait to see what kind of concession speech this asshole gives. That is if he gives one at all.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:54 PM

10. That's what I call good news. Now I want to listen to his concession speech.

He sure better give one and not just slink off into the shadows. I'm waiting............

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:59 PM

14. Don't bet the rent

West is just the sort of monumentally sore loser to not only refuse to concede, but will choke before he calls to congratulate his winning opponent. He won't slink off into the shadows, but will eventally be cast into media darkness at long last. Not soon enough, of course.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:55 PM

11. I'm glad to see West go BUT

there's no way to know that either candidate won when the vote is counted in secret without a hand-counted audit to verify the result.

In FL it is ILLEGAL to count votes by hand if they have already been counted by an electronic voting machine for God's sake.

I agree with BradBlog. There shd have been a HAND COUNT of ALL the ballots. I feel pretty sure that it would have confirmed the result. I suspect that Murphy would have won be an even larger margin than he did with the purely machine count that is all that is allowed in FL. If West had won, more power to him. He would have been the one chosen by real people in an honest election.

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Response to Stevepol (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:17 PM

18. Not to mention that when they recount them they get more votes?

Does that not suggest that something is wrong?...if things were working right there should be no difference at all in the count.

I guess when people get tired of having elections stolen they will demand a fraud proof election conducted by real people.
And don't let anyone tell you that is not possible.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:36 PM

20. They found some 300 ballots they haven't counted the first time.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:07 PM

57. Totally agree with you both....

I want that McCarthy-ite, war criminal GONE... but the way we run elections in this country is also a crime. Virtually EVERY adult citizen should be eligible and registered to vote... and EVERY vote should be counted. (In a way that produces a paper trail... and is replicable!)

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Response to deurbano (Reply #57)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 08:22 PM

68. And welcome to DU.

And it is not rocket science to do it either....and is cheaper than computers....
Paper ballots filled out and dropped down a slot that went to a table in the next room with a couple retired seniors sitting at who were hired to then count and tabulate the vote.....when the last vote is cast in that precinct the totals are checked and when confirmed posted publicly....ballots sealed up and voting is finished...all for far less than we spend now.
But that system is hard to game...you would have to bribe too many old people to have any effect...

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:55 PM

12. I'm in ca.-

But this guy was such an ass to see him gone is a blessing for the country

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:58 PM

13. maybe these were the uncounted ballots they found

which means the rest of the count is unchanged and was accurate.



http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_st_lucie_county/fort_pierce/judge-refuses-to-halt-early-vote-recount-in-st-lucie-county

Mowery confirmed that 306 uncounted ballots had been "noted" by state Division of Elections.

He later explained the 306 ballots that had not yet been counted were ballots that contained one or more write-in choices. All these ballots were cast on Nov. 1-3, the days which had been recounted last Sunday.

A write-in vote in any race caused the vote tabulating machines to reject the ballots, he said.
..The decision to recount the ballots came after a state elections auditor on Friday found the box of 306 early ballots that never were counted.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:59 PM

15. It's not over til the madman sings

I won't hold my breath

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:38 PM

21. His singing is not required.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:00 PM

16. One

 

fruitcake gone, more to go in the GOP Congress. Especially the Fruit cakes showing up on these Sunday Shows.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:34 PM

19. I read that the judge mentioned to the candidates

that after the election was certified that one of them could contest the results in court. Maybe that means this won't happen in this case.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:41 PM

22. Unfortunately-

this type never really goes away.
He'll likely write a book and go on the lecture circuit, and be a frequent guest on Fox News.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:47 PM

23. Why not recount a couple more times?

Maybe we can turn it into a landslide.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:49 PM

24. K&R. Glad to hear it.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:50 PM

25. Eat it Fox News.

They wanted so much for Crazy West to win.

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Response to Chipper Chat (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:55 PM

28. They didn't want West

on their payroll. Methinks Palin is costing them plenty in terms of bang for the buck. Did I say bang for the buck in the same sentence with Palin?

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:50 PM

26. Go (Home) West!!!

 

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:52 PM

27. Excellent News

 

Now West can kindly f off. Irritating douche.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:55 PM

29. Right, and 'Florida's West to Fight Defeat in House Race.'

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Response to elleng (Reply #29)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 07:43 PM

64. Thanks for the link...

What an elephant's ass that man is!

The sun sank slowly in the West.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:55 PM

30. West will never concede. He is dangerous.

Well, maybe he will, but there's no doubt that he could go nuts about this, violently.

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Response to Faygo Kid (Reply #30)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:46 PM

48. Geese, and I guarantee you that he has guns. Maybe even military grade weapons.

I'm sure plenty of his supporters do also.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:56 PM

31. West defeated

With West defeated, the total IQ of the House just doubled.

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Response to FrankM64 (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:58 PM

32. Yes indeed my friend. Welcome to DU!

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Response to FrankM64 (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:03 PM

33. He was a drag on that!

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:05 PM

34. St. Lucie recount results shows Murphy picked up votes on West

http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2012/nov/18/we-still-dont-know/

St. Lucie recount results shows Murphy picked up votes on West

St. Lucie election official said state-mandated noon deadline met

As far as we're concerned, this puts an end to it," Johnson said. "The West people demanded a recount. They got that retabulation and Patrick Murphy gained a margin of 242 votes.

""This election is over," Johnson added.

Mowery said the final count was 65,841 votes for Murphy and 52,704 for West. The results still are unofficial.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:08 PM

35. Do the HONORABLE thing

and conceed. Even your LEADER, Romney, did so ON Election Day.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:10 PM

36. Whew!

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:15 PM

38. What West Needs To Do Now

He needs to say a prayer on top of XMEN comic #1. Then he needs to run out into the wilderness on a cold winter's night, naked.

When he runs until he can't run anymore, he needs to fall to his knees, look up at the sky, then let out his most primal roar of muthafuckin' RAGE, maybe cut his chest with a broken bottle, then go fetal and cry.

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Response to identify (Reply #38)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:25 PM

44. Not enough visuals there..

need more visuals.

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Response to identify (Reply #38)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 11:52 AM

88. yep,great

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:16 PM

39. Most of the youtubes I've seen today

all of which originated as links from DU, have a popup ad which states "Liberals are trying to steal Allen West's victory!".

jeesh

He's not going away on his own. West will need to be put in a straightjacket at some point.

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Response to eyewall (Reply #39)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 07:52 PM

65. What's interesting about those pop ups is...

...they are probably from one of the fake "West Super PACs" that have NO connection with him, use his name strictly for raising cash, and do god-knows-what with the money. West never sees a dime. And its not clear the money goes to any political cause at all.

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Response to reACTIONary (Reply #65)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 08:16 PM

67. I thought there was something fishy.

I wasn't sure I was remembering it right so I didn't mention it but I'm sure the spelling was "liburls", like freepers spell it. How appropriate that West would attract con men to his coattails.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:20 PM

40. Yea!!!

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:21 PM

41. it would be nice to get rid of that crazy man for good

Jesus! I'm tired of crazy!

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:24 PM

42. Is this now fair and accurate?

When demanding a recount, West and his folks insisted they wanted to ensure a fair and accurate count. I took that to mean a count by which West would win. I wonder now if they accept this as fair and accurate.

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Response to JoeDuck (Reply #42)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:10 PM

58. Welcome to DU, JoeDuck!

Ordinarily I'd hope that west would do the gracious thing and concede and move on with his life. But I know better. Seriously doubt he'll go away quietly, or even go away noisily - just so he GOES AWAY!!! But I bet we won't have heard the last of him. My husband mentioned something about whether he'd be a graceful loser, but then we realized - hell, the TOP of the ticket hasn't been a good sport about it, so why should the pawns on his chessboard behave any differently?

Glad you're here! Let's do EVERYTHING we can to keep assholes like this guy OUT of public office! In perpetuity!!!!

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:25 PM

43. Maybe he was arrogant enough for Tea Party

But their style is going away. Good ridance.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:34 PM

45. k&r

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:34 PM

46. I don't think West has conceded yet

So can he still challenge the results even though Murphy has been officially re-certified?

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Response to TroyD (Reply #46)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:40 PM

47. Not sure exactly what his options are

but I know his attorneys are weighing them. The crazy man will try anything he can.

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Response to TroyD (Reply #46)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 06:17 PM

61. I don't know about Florida election law

But I'd bet he will challenge it. The guy is a nutcase.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:49 PM

49. GOOD!

Now can we get West recommitted to the asylum he escaped from???

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:55 PM

51. Hey, West!

Go a little more East..... Nah, further.... further.... F U R T H E R.....

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:00 PM

52. HA! ha!

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:04 PM

54. I see West is still advertising on DU, take his money.

MSM doesnot vote, you lost, the lawyers needs your money, give it all to them. Throw a tantrum, wish Santa will give you the election. After you realize you lost, resolve your issues in life, get some help with your mean mouth, you are going to be on angry old man if you don't get help.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:24 PM

59. A bit teary

What West did to Nicole Sandler disturbed me to such a degree, Im glad he is gone.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:25 PM

60. Excellent news.

I'm really not in the mood to give ANYTHING to the repukes at this stage.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 07:11 PM

63. West, don't let the door hit you in the A$$ on the way out.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 08:51 PM

69. Any Bets?

He will never concede, and he will continue to fight the results until the courts and the media finally drop his teabagging ass.

He must be one of those people who enjoys being humiliated in public. He did it to himself all during his short 'reign', and now is allowing others to humiliate him.

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Response to Heathen57 (Reply #69)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:01 PM

72. It's not all ego. It's about the votes coming up. The GOP will try to reduce Democratic voters in

January and will drag out any contest they can to maintain their hold. They did it with Coleman and Franken for almost 6 months.

That was to continue the Koch agenda and this is the same, as long as they have a foot in the door.

The problem is not stupidity. We enjoy sayng that, but they would only be stupid if doing a job for the public.

They don't work for the public. This is a thing Democrats have a blind spot on.

What he is actually, is a bought and paid for toady. He will work for his real masters, not people that he claims to represent in FL.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 08:56 PM

70. Yaaaay!!! The beginning of finally fixing Florida!!

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:06 PM

73. Good riddance, you obnoxious jackass!!

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:08 PM

74. K & R!

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:43 AM

75. Wooooooooooot!!

Hey west, fox-nonsense called.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:16 AM

78. Only the certifiable and/or the brainwashed would grieve West's defeat.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:30 AM

79. All West has left now..


is to get a gun! and shoot his way into office.

I'm not sure he wouldn't do it.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 02:53 AM

80. A few tweets from LOLGOP:

LOLGOP ‏@LOLGOP
One more recount and we'll find out that Allen West lost in 2010, too.

LOLGOP ‏@LOLGOP
How many recounts does Allen West need to qualify for his AM radio show?

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:56 AM

82. Whoot! Whoot!

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:39 AM

84. they thought they got rid of enough ballots

that boxhead kook shouldve never been in office to begin with. too bad nutjob michelle district is gerrymandered to hell

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:20 PM

92. He still refuses to concede

Maybe Fox can hire him as a political analyst or give him his own show.

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Response to riverwalker (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:34 PM

93. Hey Allen, you would have won if you were white!

How does that make you feel? Not enough whitebread racist Republicans had the energy to get up and vote for you. If you were a little paler and said the same assholic things I'm sure you'd have won.

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