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babylonsister

(170,963 posts)
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:15 PM Nov 2012

The Romney Purge Begins


http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/11/17/the_romney_purge_begins.html

November 17, 2012

The Romney Purge Begins


Ben Smith: "There appears to be no Romney Republicanism to propagate. No Romney strategy to emulate. No Romney technology to ape. No generation shaped by his failed effort. And no Romney infrastructure to inherit, though he may still be asked to write and bundle quite a few checks..."

"Romney is being erased with record speed from his party's books for three reasons. First, many Republicans backed him because they thought he had a good chance of winning; that appeal, obviously, is gone. Second, Romney had shallow roots, and few friends, in the national Republican Party. And those shallow roots have allowed Republicans to give him a new role: As a sort of bad partisan bank, freighted with all the generational positions and postures that they are looking to dump."


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The Romney Purge Begins (Original Post) babylonsister Nov 2012 OP
Well well well. I felt that Romney represented the GOP values perfectly. nc4bo Nov 2012 #1
I think that's the point...... Wounded Bear Nov 2012 #3
Spot on, WB. NoQuarter Nov 2012 #53
Yes, he was their ultimate superman. A pox on the bunch of them and their Nordquist-loving ways. freshwest Nov 2012 #20
Yes but he was a terrible liar. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #42
Indeed, Romney is/was a pathological liar. agtcovert Nov 2012 #45
No surprise, really. elleng Nov 2012 #2
Romney ran an insurgent campaign. He didn't build up support from the ground up. grantcart Nov 2012 #4
Agree, he paid no 'dues'. xxqqqzme Nov 2012 #22
Romney felt like a deer in Headlights boingboinh Nov 2012 #5
Afternoon of 11/7, most of the Romney/Ryan signs in areas I drive were gone ... zbdent Nov 2012 #6
I live in a very conservative part of Virginia and I noticed the same thing! muddrunner17 Nov 2012 #11
That sorry 2naSalit Nov 2012 #7
He is being Etch a sketched. yourout Nov 2012 #8
No he is not going to be the equivalent of a Goldwater or a McGovern who in spite of lossing by a Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 #9
One other reason is that Romney has no perch; Goldwater and McGovern remained Senators. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #55
rmoney was the cheese sandwich they thought onethatcares Nov 2012 #10
Cheese sandwich on white bread . . . colorado_ufo Nov 2012 #12
my mind won't let me type that so I use onethatcares Nov 2012 #31
After reading this post from Duer laserhaas... EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #13
This would have been the fate of any of them jmowreader Nov 2012 #14
That depends on whether or not Dems stick up for SocSec and Medicare eridani Nov 2012 #44
I'm sure he'll be as absent at the convention in 2016 SouthernDonkey Nov 2012 #15
Welcome to DU, and glad you came aboard. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #16
Hi SouthernDonkey...WELCOME to DU... Tikki Nov 2012 #18
Thanks all! SouthernDonkey Nov 2012 #19
We are pleased to welcome you to our Community. WheelWalker Nov 2012 #21
Welcome to DU, SouthernDonkey! beac Nov 2012 #25
Welcome to DU, SouthernDonkey! calimary Nov 2012 #34
welcome heaven05 Nov 2012 #48
Or as Jennifer Rubin asks, Mitt who? Faygo Kid Nov 2012 #17
Best line from the Buzzfeed source article (imho): coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #23
How they dispose of him? Heywood J Nov 2012 #46
Let's be honest... BVictor1 Nov 2012 #24
Welcome to DU, BVictor1! calimary Nov 2012 #35
What a waste of millions of dollars. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2012 #26
Hopefully some of those bucks might just "trickle down". lumpy Nov 2012 #43
Eloquently Written to be Sure, However Iggy Nov 2012 #27
Meg Whitman of the national scene. David__77 Nov 2012 #28
He and W should hang out together The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2012 #29
Romney became a willing whore, who was used and... polichick Nov 2012 #30
Hmmmm. So, GOPers think Mitt is a poopyhead. nt SDjack Nov 2012 #32
Romney's that bad smell in the room. You can't quite put your finger on it, but when you do.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #33
+1 njlibguy_19656mm Nov 2012 #36
Exactly, and welcome to DU! Tarheel_Dem Nov 2012 #37
Welcome to DU, njlibguy_19656mm! calimary Nov 2012 #38
They are purging him because he is bad for the party image davidpdx Nov 2012 #39
worst losing candidate dlwickham Nov 2012 #40
When you make an ass of yourself after you loose than they won't have anything to do with you. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #41
Romney was a proponent of tropical-climate weathervane Republicanism. valerief Nov 2012 #47
It's easy to say Romney was a weak candidate because Romney lost badly. RickFromMN Nov 2012 #49
The GOP primaries were a three legged stool jmowreader Nov 2012 #51
I'm not sure the pro-corporation 'faction' of the Republican Party could even be called a wing LongTomH Nov 2012 #52
Thank you, sister libodem Nov 2012 #50
Mitt was basically carpetbagger... dchill Nov 2012 #54
Romney, the winner of nothing mzteaze Nov 2012 #56

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
1. Well well well. I felt that Romney represented the GOP values perfectly.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:27 PM
Nov 2012

All of it.

Republicans farted out Romney and then turn around and act like he had nothing to do with them.

Party of Fail.

Wounded Bear

(58,440 posts)
3. I think that's the point......
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:29 PM
Nov 2012

People are disposable to them. If you don't advance the power structure, yer outta here!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
20. Yes, he was their ultimate superman. A pox on the bunch of them and their Nordquist-loving ways.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:04 PM
Nov 2012

I could say worse things. My opinion of them since the Nixon and Reagan eras have not changed, only hardened.


NYC Liberal

(20,132 posts)
42. Yes but he was a terrible liar.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:33 PM
Nov 2012

The Republicans who get elected are the ones who know how to lie about their true intentions and plans.

Romney, Akin, Mourdock...they didn't know how to play the game.

When Republicans are honest during a campaign, it generally doesn't go over well.

agtcovert

(238 posts)
45. Indeed, Romney is/was a pathological liar.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 10:58 AM
Nov 2012

That ended up not working so well for him either. Maybe it's because no one knew what he really stood for. And there's a lot of truth in the notion that if you tell enough lies, you'll eventually not be able to remember what you lied about.

“No man, for any considerable period, can wear one face to himself and another to the multitude, without finally getting bewildered as to which may be the true.” -Nathaniel Hawthorne

elleng

(130,154 posts)
2. No surprise, really.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:28 PM
Nov 2012

Recall primaries, where repugs stated clearly they didn't like him, they turned their backs on him, never 'chatted' with him? He was and is NOTHING.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
4. Romney ran an insurgent campaign. He didn't build up support from the ground up.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:31 PM
Nov 2012


He didn't spend a couple of years raising money for Rep Congressman on the campaign trail.


He tried to do it on the cheap.


He has few friends in the Republican Party and they are going to make him a scapegoat.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
22. Agree, he paid no 'dues'.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:39 PM
Nov 2012

Made no investment. The concept of investment in the future is foreign to him. As with all vulture capitalists, he is all about hoarding.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
6. Afternoon of 11/7, most of the Romney/Ryan signs in areas I drive were gone ...
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:50 PM
Nov 2012

and I hadn't seen many R/R bumper stickers on cars to begin with, until just after the first debate. I think I've seen two bumper stickers since the election ...

(Northeast Ohio, Cleveland/Akron area)

muddrunner17

(155 posts)
11. I live in a very conservative part of Virginia and I noticed the same thing!
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:23 PM
Nov 2012

In 2008 McCain signs stayed up for a long time. In fact, I still see bumper stickers from time to time.

2naSalit

(86,059 posts)
7. That sorry
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 03:07 PM
Nov 2012

POS of a human being is only happy when he's cheating and thinking that he's getting away with it. Nothing suits him better than when he's ripping someone off or manipulating them to his advantage and to a disadvantage to themselves. He's been that way from childhood and will never change, he sNewt G have a lot in common there.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
9. No he is not going to be the equivalent of a Goldwater or a McGovern who in spite of lossing by a
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:14 PM
Nov 2012

far, far wider margin than Romney nonetheless left a permanent foot print on their party and on the nation's body politic. People will never speak of Romney-Republicans or Romneyites.

onethatcares

(16,133 posts)
10. rmoney was the cheese sandwich they thought
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:20 PM
Nov 2012

could beat the President. The repuke ptbs thought they could use hatred for our President.

they lost,

Let's see, that's three running no one on that side wants to talk about, *, mccain & lipstick, and thise

new guy.

fug em.

onethatcares

(16,133 posts)
31. my mind won't let me type that so I use
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:33 PM
Nov 2012

* (that will be the designation in the history books. * the only president chosen by the USSC )

I can't bring myself to look at him on teevee yet, and to hear his voice drives me psycho.

EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
13. After reading this post from Duer laserhaas...
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:34 PM
Nov 2012

Republicons are going to get as far away from anything Romney as they can,


Post Election Romney and Bain Face a Federal Corruption and Perjury Hearing

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014306995

jmowreader

(50,453 posts)
14. This would have been the fate of any of them
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:39 PM
Nov 2012

The only thing the national GOP cared about over the last four years was getting the black man out of the White House. If they cared about leading the nation they would have groomed someone through a stint in the House, then a Senate seat or governorship and an ambassadorship or Cabinet post in Shrub's administration. Instead, they did largely a pickup operation, which allowed this man who had no business in public service, or in private business for that matter, to run for president. Romney is a man for the manor; he has enough money to simply retreat to his manse and be rich. Instead, he decided to get into vulture finance, where he left a trail of shuttered companies and broken families, then into politics where overturning Romney vetoes became the General Court's great passion. Did they start pools and bet on how thoroughly they could overturn his vetos? They could have sold lotto tickets...get the margin right, win $100, profits go toward unfucking the commonwealth.

In 2014 the Republicans will lose the House. They will continue to lose relevance until they realize breaking the government then screaming about how the Democrats haven't fixed it yet is no way to govern.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
44. That depends on whether or not Dems stick up for SocSec and Medicare
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:57 AM
Nov 2012

If they cave, 2014 is going to make 2010 look like an overwhelming Dem victory.

SouthernDonkey

(256 posts)
15. I'm sure he'll be as absent at the convention in 2016
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:40 PM
Nov 2012

As GWB was from this years! In their rush to address the reasons they lost this election, they grasp at and embrace every possible explanation except REALITY! Good riddance to that out of touch Romney idiot! I hope the only way we hear from him again is as "defendant" in some type of criminal litigation!

Hello all! I'm happy to have found correct minded people who support my way of thinking!

beac

(9,992 posts)
25. Welcome to DU, SouthernDonkey!
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:47 PM
Nov 2012


From another "southern donkey" (Virginia)!

(and I also share your enthusiasm for seeing Romney in the dock!)

calimary

(80,699 posts)
34. Welcome to DU, SouthernDonkey!
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:21 PM
Nov 2012

Glad you're here! You will be surrounded by like-minded people! DU helped keep me sane during the miserable bush/cheney years. You're among friends and family here!

Faygo Kid

(21,477 posts)
17. Or as Jennifer Rubin asks, Mitt who?
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 04:48 PM
Nov 2012

New editor is at The Post. Keeping fingers crossed that he fires that hack.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
23. Best line from the Buzzfeed source article (imho):
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:06 PM
Nov 2012

"Romney is now a toxic asset to unload," the historian Jack Bohrer remarked Saturday. "The only interesting thing left to his story is how they dispose of him."

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/why-republicans-want-to-make-mitt-romney-go-away

Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
46. How they dispose of him?
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:27 AM
Nov 2012

I hear there's this company called Stericycle that can dispose of all sorts of things...

 

BVictor1

(229 posts)
24. Let's be honest...
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:44 PM
Nov 2012

What type of infrastructure was there after Mccain?

No one likes him either.

However, President Obama has laid groundwork and infrastructure for whomever runs in 2016.

calimary

(80,699 posts)
35. Welcome to DU, BVictor1!
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:26 PM
Nov 2012

Glad you're here! True about mccain, and those who did are starting to smell something stinky. I wish he'd take what's left of his dignity and retire.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
27. Eloquently Written to be Sure, However
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:55 PM
Nov 2012

I've heard a few GOP apologists/knuckledraggers stating all that need be done is tweak their message.. they just didn't sell it very well to the voters.

David__77

(23,220 posts)
28. Meg Whitman of the national scene.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:55 PM
Nov 2012

So terribly stupid of them to run an open plutocrat at this juncture.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
30. Romney became a willing whore, who was used and...
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:22 PM
Nov 2012

...dumped when he made the sociopathic user look like a loser.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,208 posts)
33. Romney's that bad smell in the room. You can't quite put your finger on it, but when you do....
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:43 PM
Nov 2012

you want it the hell out of the house as quick as possible. Besides, I also have it on pretty good authority that he's a world class "poopyhead".

calimary

(80,699 posts)
38. Welcome to DU, njlibguy_19656mm!
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:50 PM
Nov 2012

Glad you're here! You won't find much sympathy for him here, but you will find lots of people who are extremely relieved and deeply grateful that - as I've seen repeated so often in the last few days - "America dodged a bullet."

What you WILL find here is a lot of solidarity and support from many other like-minded online brothers and sisters. Enjoy! Especially at a time like this! There aren't too many things much sweeter than an electoral victory like the one our President and our Dems just earned!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
39. They are purging him because he is bad for the party image
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:59 PM
Nov 2012

I'm still shocked the Republicans didn't pressure him to step aside. He was hands down the worst Republican presidential candidate in the last 30 years.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
41. When you make an ass of yourself after you loose than they won't have anything to do with you.
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:35 PM
Nov 2012

What a bitter man.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
47. Romney was a proponent of tropical-climate weathervane Republicanism.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:38 PM
Nov 2012

You never know in which direction the hot air will blow.

RickFromMN

(478 posts)
49. It's easy to say Romney was a weak candidate because Romney lost badly.
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 02:49 PM
Nov 2012

It's interesting to note Romney did quite well against his Republican challengers in the Republican Primary.

Was it Romney's huge advantage in money, or were Romney's Republican challengers really that much worse?

Comment followed by a question.

People are speculating Romney will be nowhere to be found during the 2016 Republican Presidential Primary cycle.

Do people think Santorum, Gingrich, Perry, Palin, Bachmann, Huckebee, <add more of Republican challengers who challenged Romney here>, will be nowhere to be found during the 2016 Republican Presidential Primary?

Please forgive my spelling for the names of the Republican challengers. I didn't feel like looking up the correct spellings of their names.

I remain convinced the pro-corporation wing of the Republican Party selected Romney as the Republican Presidential nominee, and I believe, in 2016, the pro-corporation wing will select the next Republican Presidential nominee, irrespective of what the Social Conservative wing and the Libertarian wing and any other Republican wing want.

jmowreader

(50,453 posts)
51. The GOP primaries were a three legged stool
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:31 PM
Nov 2012

The first is Romney's ability to raise money. Mitt of late has said Obama won because he gives gifts to non-rich people. Mitt was the nominee because he would be more likely to give his friends what they want: no taxes and no regulations.(Reality time: any of them would have been Grover lapdogs.)

In second place were his opponents.

Third was Obama As Fox Sees Him.

The reality is, Mitt would have been fine following Eisenhower - Congress would have sent him low-deficit budgets and kept him from slashing taxes. In post Reagan America he shouldn't even be allowed to set foot in the National Capitol Region.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
52. I'm not sure the pro-corporation 'faction' of the Republican Party could even be called a wing
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 04:48 PM
Nov 2012

That's such a small number of billionaire movers and shakers, like the Kochs and Adelson, the think tanks they fund, and the Right-wing media also funded by them. A wing is a large number of actual people, with a shared worldview.

I think of this corporate-funded group more in terms of science fiction stories, where a small, alien parasite controls human beings; something like Heinlein's The Puppet Masters.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
50. Thank you, sister
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:27 PM
Nov 2012

For bringing us this most excellent analysis. You brighten the hallways and rooms of DU, with your pertinent selections.

mzteaze

(448 posts)
56. Romney, the winner of nothing
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:52 PM
Nov 2012

I still think, the GOP KNEW that they did not have a particularly strong set of contenders to run for 2012 AND did not want to run one of their "better" candidates against Obama, the incumbent. Then here enters Mitt, who had more money and was determined to run. He wasn't well liked within the GOP but could (and would) easily be the candidate for 2012. He solved the problem of WHO to run. If he won, cool but if he didn't - it bought them a little more time to develop a base-friendly contender for 2016.

Mitt was the scapegoat for the GOP in 2012. It couldn't have happened to a nicer dude.

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