HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Politics 2014 (Forum) » "Let's Stop Stealing...
Introducing Discussionist: A new forum by the creators of DU

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:36 PM

"Let's Stop Stealing From the Poor. They Have No Money Left."

Last week, Alan Grayson joined former New York Governor Eliot Spitzer on Spitzerís national TV show ďViewpoint.Ē The subject was priorities for the new Congress. Here is what they said:

ELIOT: Democratic Congressman-Elect Alan Grayson, newly elected in Floridaís redrawn 9th Congressional District, joins me now. Congressman, many thanks for your time. {Your speech on the Republican healthcare plan, ďdonít get sick,Ē} was one of the most memorable moments in a memorable healthcare debate. It sent ripples through the ďchattering class,Ē as we refer to it. Those insiders who think they know everything. They said, ďMan, who is this guy?Ē It is great to see and hear your voice back in Washington. You will unsettle and ruffle a few feathers. So congratulations. What is number one on your agenda?

ALAN GRAYSON: To make John Boehner cry. {Laughter.} Thatís so easy.

ELIOT: Congressman, thatís too easy for you. Come on, I want you to pick something harder than that.

ALAN: Oh, how about full employment? Or universal healthcare? What about that?

ELIOT: All right. Look, you are going to go to Washington to push a progressive agenda. How comfortable are you that after {the election} the President understands that this is now a time for a grand agenda, not just a ďgrand bargainĒ?

ALAN: It remains to be seen. Itís just too early to say. I couldnít tell from watching the campaign. I couldnít tell from his {victory} speech. I just donít know. I donít know if the President is going to try to fight for the Middle Class, fight to make America more equal, fight for the 99%, or whether the President is just going to try to play checkers with the other side, and see how that works out.

ELIOT: There is enormous pressure, even though the public doesnít appreciate this, enormous pressure within the Beltway to reach a compromise, to play nice, and not to say things that sometimes need to be said, but are not comfortable for people to hear. And so, I sense, and the reason I am so excited about your going back to Washington is that you will push the White House, and hold them accountable if they cave too quickly. What should the Presidentís first offer to John Boehner be?

ALAN: Or if they cave {at all}. Wait a minute. Why talk about caving at all? The Democrats won the election. And Iíll tell you this -- Iím upset by the idea that we would try to make our fiscal policy somehow more sound at the expense of our seniors. I donít understand why we want to do that. Why are we taking from the people who have nothing, in order to feed the rich? I just donít get that. I donít understand why. Iím against cuts in benefits for Social Security -- period. Iím against cuts in benefits in Medicare -- period. Weíre just going to find another way to solve the deficit problem. We have to, because it is not fair to the seniors. Weíre not going to throw Grandma from the train, as long as Iím going to have anything to say about it.
https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/stopstealingfromthepoor?refcode=Nov16DU

ELIOT: Which means that you are going to propose, you and those who agree with you (and Iím one of them) a tax policy, a tax plan that will take us in a more progressive direction, that will close the loopholes. Will you actually lay out for the White House, you and colleagues say, ďHere in the Progressive Caucus, here is the plan, the alternative plan that will get us where we need to go?Ē And when would you do that for us?

ALAN: Yes, every year the Progressive Caucus has proposed an alternative budget. This goes back for a long, long time. And the alternative budget is based, in part, upon progressive taxation: The idea that Mitt Romney should not be paying less in taxes than the secretary who works for Warren Buffet or anybody else. The idea that the rich should pay their fair share. . . .We {should} go back to the principle that a dollar is a dollar, and just because you are rich and you get it through capital gains doesnít mean you get some sort of special tax break, or if you get it through qualified dividends you get some special tax break. If we go back to the {common} sense that a dollar is a dollar, that theyíre all green, {so} letís tax them equally, that itself would go substantially to reduce the deficit. That tax break alone is over $100 billion a year.
https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/stopstealingfromthepoor?refcode=Nov16DU

ELIOT: Well the notion of saying, as you just did, capital gains income is the same thing as ordinary income, taxing them in an equal way, it was actually in Simpson-Bowles, {but} of course people want to ignore that. And a critical report just came out from the Congressional Research Service saying that the premise of the entire Republican tax policy, which is that lowering tax rates on capital increases investment, is wrong. And it seems to me if you argue that point to the public, they will understand that what youíre proposing is the right way to go, both on equity grounds and on economic development grounds.

ALAN: Yes, and letís stop stealing from the poor. They just donít have any money left.
https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/stopstealingfromthepoor?refcode=Nov16DU

ELIOT: I think that after what has been going on recently, thatís certainly the case. Is there some irony that you appreciate that Allen West lost and you won? Do you see this as the shift in the tectonic plates of politics?

ALAN: Itís a massive upgrade in Alans. Thatís how I see it. Possibly the greatest upgrade in Alans that humanity has ever seen.
https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/stopstealingfromthepoor?refcode=Nov16DU

ELIOT: Well itís a good thing you and he arenít going to have desks right next to each other. I think maybe he would disagree with you. But Iíll leave that since heís now out and you are in, and letís hope it continues that way. But it is kind of remarkable because the Tea Party got a thumping that nobody could have predicted two years ago. What do you think happened in the public that led to this?

ALAN: Well, I think there has been some abating in the publicís willingness to listen to nonsense from the Koch Brothers, and the health insurance companies, and Karl Rove, and all these people who gin up all these fancy ads that mean nothing. I think that, unfortunately, the public has reached a point where it simply doesnít believe what it sees on TV and therefore, their so-called magic is not working any longer. But I think on a deeper level, what it means is this: The reason why the party is over for the Tea Party is that they couldnít come up with any solutions to any problems. Here it is, more than three years later since I made that {ďdonít get sickĒ} speech, and it is still true that as far as the Tea Party is concerned, if you donít have health insurance, then as far as theyíre concerned if you get sick, youíre out of luck. You know, just donít get sick. That was true then, and itís true now. Whether you are talking about employment, youíre talking about education, youíre talking about benefits, youíre talking about anything that actually matters in peopleís lives, healthcare, housing, {etc.}, theyíve got no answers to anything. So of course they are going to fail. Thatís a political dead end. Theyíre ignoring the voters, so sooner or later the voters are going to ignore them.
https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/stopstealingfromthepoor?refcode=Nov16DU

ELIOT: Congressman, I think thatís exactly right. What the Republicans found so problematic about that speech you gave on the Floor was its accuracy. You lanced the boil of their policies through the simplicity of how you articulated it. All I can say is that it is wonderful to have you back. Congratulations on your win. Democratic Congressman-Elect Alan Grayson of Florida, we look forward to having you on this show in months ahead.

ALAN: Thank you, thank you very much.

To see the video, or to support our campaign, click here.
https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/stopstealingfromthepoor?refcode=Nov16DU

25 replies, 3465 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 25 replies Author Time Post
Reply "Let's Stop Stealing From the Poor. They Have No Money Left." (Original post)
Alan Grayson Nov 2012 OP
Skittles Nov 2012 #1
Dubster Nov 2012 #2
CitizenLeft Nov 2012 #3
freshwest Nov 2012 #24
nashville_brook Nov 2012 #4
rhett o rick Nov 2012 #5
Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #6
Cleita Nov 2012 #7
forestpath Nov 2012 #9
Lugnut Nov 2012 #21
forestpath Nov 2012 #8
limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #10
Whisp Nov 2012 #11
Historic NY Nov 2012 #12
WillyT Nov 2012 #13
The Wizard Nov 2012 #14
hootinholler Nov 2012 #15
Norrin Radd Nov 2012 #16
phantom power Nov 2012 #17
woo me with science Nov 2012 #18
HCE SuiGeneris Nov 2012 #19
Rhiannon12866 Nov 2012 #20
Z_I_Peevey Nov 2012 #22
FredStembottom Nov 2012 #23
Tigress DEM Nov 2012 #25

Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:49 PM

1. AWESOME

"don't get sick" - I love the way you're doubling down on them! YEE HAW! OMG they *SO* have it coming.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:50 PM

2. Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 06:57 PM

3. Congratulations on the Alan upgrade!

Give 'em hell!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to CitizenLeft (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:45 PM

24. +1,000

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:32 PM

4. my congressman has guts! go fightin' 9th!

So happy to have been able to vote for Grayson this time around!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:37 PM

5. Thanks and good luck. nm

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 07:47 PM

6. I like how they bring up the capital gains tax. Damn Rs should make the deal

on the increase of tax rates because as far as I understand it, President Obama , in addition to raising the top two rates only wants to raise capital gains and dividends rate to 20% max. But if nothing is done then dividends go to regular tax rates.
So what is your choice Rs?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:21 PM

7. Thank You, Congressman Grayson and

you can add old people on fixed incomes to that too.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Cleita (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:31 PM

9. +1

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Cleita (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:47 AM

21. Amen! n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:31 PM

8. K&R

 

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:34 PM

10. woot. love this guy.


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:39 PM

11. ''' I donít know if the President is going to try to fight for the Middle Class,'''

 

Then I guess you haven't been paying attention.

I have yet to see a reply from 'Grayson' on this thread or the other one. And I might have missed more.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:48 PM

12. Be the thorn Alan, be the thorn.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:48 PM

13. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

And congratulations !!!






Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:50 PM

14. The real problem is finding

normal Republicans who don't want to eviscerate the weakest among us.
Oh no, the Tourette's is kicking in. Here it comes. I can't stop. Eric Cantor is anal leakage. Ahhhhh!!!!!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:50 PM

15. Alan (or his staffer)...

You don't need quite so many donation links. We get it.

Second, hire me. I'm a skilled IT professional who supports your mission. PM me. BTW, Steny Hoyer said you are a lion. I think that might have been a compliment, but he was politickin at the time.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 08:50 PM

16. kr

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:25 PM

17. "there has been some abating in the publicís willingness to listen to nonsense"

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:36 PM

18. K&R!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 10:47 PM

19. K & R

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:14 PM

20. K&R! Kudos to DU's own Congressman!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 06:53 AM

22. Congratulations on your return to the House

Looking forward to many quotable moments from you.

Please tell the leadership to get busy getting as many House Rs to switch parties as possible, thus easing our task as we work on electing a Democratic House majority in 2014.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:47 PM

23. I look forward to watching Alan go.

Go, Alan, go!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Alan Grayson (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:32 PM

25. ALL GOOD, but 2 AWESOME GEMS:



The reason why the party is over for the Tea Party is that they couldnít come up with any solutions to any problems.


Theyíre ignoring the voters, so sooner or later the voters are going to ignore them.



In a nutshell, every debate I've had with friends or foe on the other side of the isle has some aspect of the common sense assertion that the Obstructionists are NOT proposing any solutions and the DEMs ARE about SOLVING problems AND willing to listen, but not roll over.

LATELY, I've been showing my OUTRAGE. WHY should we PAY these BOZOS to go to Congress and DO NOTHING?! IF they can't solve the problems, they should pack up their bags and make way for people who CAN.








Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread