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Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:38 AM

Shares in Papa Johnís International have been tumbling since last Thursday

Meanwhile, shares in Papa Johnís International have been tumbling since last Thursday, falling from $51.70 at market close Wednesday to $49.22 on Monday, a 4.2% drop.

So how much would prices go up, under these 50/50 conditions, if they were to fairly reflect the increased cost of doing business onset by Obamacare? Roughly 3.4 to 4.6 cents a pie.

Some seem to think my analysis suggests I donít appreciate a businessís duty to shareholders to maximize value. That is not in dispute. But (given the parameters I set up), using Schnatterís figures, the costs his company will incur due to Obamacare are not equal to the pie increases he mentions. Those pie increases would more than make up for damage done to the companyís net income through increases to operational expenses. Of course, if he thinks it wonít harm the bottom line, he is absolutely allowed to increase prices further. Given inflation and expansion, his other expenses will obviously increase in the following years too. But attributing all price increases to Obamacare would be disengenuous.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/calebmelby/2012/11/12/breaking-down-centi-millionaire-papa-john-schnatters-obamacare-math/

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Reply Shares in Papa Johnís International have been tumbling since last Thursday (Original post)
courseofhistory Nov 2012 OP
anti-poopyhead Nov 2012 #1
courseofhistory Nov 2012 #4
sarcasmo Nov 2012 #2
ancianita Nov 2012 #3
workinclasszero Nov 2012 #5
Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #14
workinclasszero Nov 2012 #20
Bill219 Nov 2012 #23
Bad Thoughts Nov 2012 #6
AndyTiedye Nov 2012 #7
Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #15
Myrina Nov 2012 #21
Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #29
Uben Nov 2012 #8
HERVEPA Nov 2012 #10
courseofhistory Nov 2012 #12
MightyAfrodite Nov 2012 #9
BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #27
santamargarita Nov 2012 #11
lastlib Nov 2012 #13
young_at_heart Nov 2012 #16
xfundy Nov 2012 #17
Tonkinlievet Nov 2012 #18
Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #19
Myrina Nov 2012 #22
Chipper Chat Nov 2012 #24
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #25
BlueDemKev Nov 2012 #26
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #28
former9thward Nov 2012 #30
Blue Owl Nov 2012 #31
UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #32

Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:41 AM

1. :)

Liberals stop ordering from PJ, conservatives double down on it, as a result they'll be more fat and sick and America will become more blue with time.. sounds like a good plan.

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Response to anti-poopyhead (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:44 AM

4. Good one

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:42 AM

2. Papa Jerk gets a smack down from Karma.

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:43 AM

3. He's gettin' a taste of karma on his thin crust soul.

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:48 AM

5. Choke on your lousy pizza papa!

I spent 28 bucks at Little Caesars pizza yesterday. The owner gave $$ to the Obama campaign and gives his workers health ins.

I did give Papa John's the bird as I drove by though!

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:23 AM

14. I didn't know that about Little Caesar's

I'll put them on my list of approved pizza providers.

What? You DON'T have a list of "Approved Pizza Providers?" You just leave that sort of thing to chance? WTF?!

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:49 AM

20. Me either till I read about it here on DU yesterday

I love this place! All the important info, right here!

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:16 PM

23. Another great thing about Little Caesars is

their Little Caesars Veterans Program which provides financial support and equipment for veterans who want to open Little Caesars stores of their own

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:50 AM

6. He admitted that the company would contract

That's not something that would appeal to investors.

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:50 AM

7. Coming Out Very Publicly Against the Guy Who Won a Landslide Victory...

...just might not be all that good for business.

Democrats are taking their business elsewhere, and even the politically apathetic don't like a sore loser.

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Response to AndyTiedye (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:25 AM

15. He's also sending a message...

that his company might not be financially stable. If something like this is going to cause a financial hardship, it speaks to the management of the company. As an investor, I might be inclined to stay away.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:58 AM

21. ... and sending a message that he's just fucking greedy.


Keep talkin' Papa John ... keep talkin'.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:21 PM

29. well, then there's that (nt)

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 10:50 AM

8. The whole market has been going down though......

...so how can you attribute the drop in price to any boycott? Just wonderin.

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Response to Uben (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:04 AM

10. Exactly correct Uben. Not a lot of analytical thinking going on here.

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Response to Uben (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:14 AM

12. Could be both and I don't care what

it's attributed to as long is it's going down. Boycotting would be a nice reason tough.

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:02 AM

9. LMAO!!

I guess he'll keep his fat mouth shut now, won't he?

These CEOs are amazing. What? They think we can't live without their products and/or services?

Please.

(Although, I have had to make myself a list to remember who all I'm boycotting; and the list just keeps getting longer and longer.)

Walmart Black Friday --- CHECK!
Papa Crap's Pizza --- CHECK!

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Response to MightyAfrodite (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:47 PM

27. Don't forget Sony.

I haven't bought a Sony product since it was discovered that they'd installed root kits via their music CDs onto the hard drives of everyone who listened to the CD on a computer.

But they doubled down on assholishness when they violated their original terms of sale on the PS, and changed the firmware without consent, so people couldn't install a different operating system on the devices - an installation which was originally a major, Sony-advertised selling point.

And now, of course, their whole online-games thing.

Maggots.

I own a Sony product when you pry one into my cold dead hands...

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:11 AM

11. Who would want shit on cardboard.

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Response to santamargarita (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:20 AM

13. Shit eating conservatives.

which is most of 'em

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:33 AM

16. About 13 years ago I ordered a PJ pizza and we had to throw it out!

It's the only one I ever bought and it was absolutely the WORST pizza I've ever tasted!

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:38 AM

17. Way to go, Porta John's!

Backlash hurts, even in a castle, huh. Turd.

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:41 AM

18. As a person privileged to grow up in an "Italian kitchen" home..>>>

 

I hold almost ALL commercial pizza in scorn.....But especially that scumbag's product!!

His total lack of business sense, demonstrated by his alienation of more than half of the electorate, is only surpassed by his inability to produce a product that even remotely could be called "Apizza"...(that's how my "Calabrese" grandparents said it!!)

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:48 AM

19. don't have a papa johns

Fortunately or unfortunately i don't know of any papa johns in my area. But here's a guy on an add giving 1 million or 2 million of pj pizza for free but he wouldn't be able to afford his employees health insurance?
Freakin' ridiculous.

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:59 AM

22. Let's be sure to let his new poster boy, Peyton Manning, know how we feel too ...

Manning just bought 20-something PJ's franchises.

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:04 PM

24. I just took Ploppa Johns off our list of recommended eating places.

(I work at a hotel)

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:26 PM

25. I guess the markets ...

are reticent to invest in a "businessman" that makes business decisions based on political ideology.

Makes sense to me ... I would prefer that my doctor not make decisions on my medical care based on his/her political ideology, either.

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:29 PM

26. Good.

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:03 PM

28. K&R nt

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:42 PM

30. A boycott would take months to be relected in the financials and stock price.

The entire market has been in a slow motion crash since Wednesday.

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:13 PM

31. Shares are in the John, so to speak

n/t

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Response to courseofhistory (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 05:03 AM

32. It is so easy to send a message with your dollars.

It is also fun too!

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