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Related: About this forumTrump's flirtation with Putin could cost him in Ohio and Pennsylvania
Donald Trumps admiration of Russian President Vladimir Putin isnt a good look generally, but it may play particularly badly with Americans of Eastern European descent
and it turns out there are a lot of them in some key battleground states.
Although these groups tend to vote Republican, there may be an opening for Hillary Clinton this year:
These voters, many of whom live in swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, are deeply worried by an emboldened Moscow, and anxious over the possibility that the Baltic nations might be the next target of Russian adventurism. Trumps lavish praise of Putin has exacerbated those concerns leaving an opening that Clintons campaign is leveraging by emphasizing her willingness to get tough with Putin, and her unwavering support for NATO. Earlier this month, Clinton met with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in New York and her allies made sure to publicize the message that Trump snubbed him.
And in states like Ohio, relatively small numbers of defections from traditionally Republican voters could make a big difference.
In Pennsylvania, according to the most recent Census data available, there are more than 100,000 people of Ukrainian descent; 820,000 of Polish descent (a demographic that tends to lean more Democratic but that cares about strong support for NATO); 46,000 Croatians; and thousands of Lithuanians, Latvians, Albanians, Estonians and people of other Eastern European ethnicities. In Ohio, there are around 40,000 Ukrainians, more than 400,000 Poles, and thousands of Americans of other Eastern European heritage.
Although these groups tend to vote Republican, there may be an opening for Hillary Clinton this year:
The Latvians are primarily Republicans, as are Lithuanians, Estonians, and many Ukrainians, but Trump has put them in a real bind, said Maris Mantenieks, a Latvian leader in Ohios Eastern European ethnic community. Because in all honesty they dont want to vote for [Clinton], and yet again they cant express their Republicanism due to Trumps positions.
These voters, many of whom live in swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, are deeply worried by an emboldened Moscow, and anxious over the possibility that the Baltic nations might be the next target of Russian adventurism. Trumps lavish praise of Putin has exacerbated those concerns leaving an opening that Clintons campaign is leveraging by emphasizing her willingness to get tough with Putin, and her unwavering support for NATO. Earlier this month, Clinton met with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in New York and her allies made sure to publicize the message that Trump snubbed him.
And in states like Ohio, relatively small numbers of defections from traditionally Republican voters could make a big difference.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/9/30/1576273/-Trump-s-flirtation-with-Putin-could-cost-him-in-Ohio-and-Pennsylvania
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Trump's flirtation with Putin could cost him in Ohio and Pennsylvania (Original Post)
Madam45for2923
Sep 2016
OP
Last night Rachel was talking about how Ford's debate gaffe may have cost him with Eastern European
yellowcanine
Sep 2016
#2
He's taking away one of their reasons they're Republicans: safety from Putin/Russia
Madam45for2923
Sep 2016
#4
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)1. Another article on same topic: Trump's Russian roulette
How the GOP nominee's embrace of Vladimir Putin has given Clinton a swing-state opening.
By TAYLOR GEE
Much more here: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-russia-vladimir-putin-swing-states-228930
By TAYLOR GEE
The Hillary Clinton campaign is meeting with swing-state leaders of Eastern European descent, encouraging ethnic debate watch parties and phone banks, and scheduling conference calls with Clinton allies from her State Department days as part of an aggressive effort to capitalize on Donald Trumps embrace of Russian leader Vladimir Putin and his equivocal support for NATO.
For years, voters with Eastern Bloc roots embraced the Republican Party, viewing the GOP as an anti-communist bulwark and a champion of strength in the face of Russian aggression.
But the Republican nominees frequent praise of Putin and talk of conditional American backing for NATO members under attack has alarmed voters with close family ties to Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and other Eastern European countries, raising the prospect that theyll bolt the top of the GOP ticket in November.
The Latvians are primarily Republicans, as are Lithuanians, Estonians, and many Ukrainians, but Trump has put them in a real bind, said Maris Mantenieks, a Latvian leader in Ohios Eastern European ethnic community. Because in all honesty they dont want to vote for [Clinton], and yet again they cant express their Republicanism due to Trumps positions.
These voters, many of whom live in swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, are deeply worried by an emboldened Moscow, and anxious over the possibility that the Baltic nations might be the next target of Russian adventurism. Trumps lavish praise of Putin has exacerbated those concerns leaving an opening that Clintons campaign is leveraging by emphasizing her willingness to get tough with Putin, and her unwavering support for NATO. Earlier this month, Clinton met with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in New York and her allies made sure to publicize the message that Trump snubbed him.
For years, voters with Eastern Bloc roots embraced the Republican Party, viewing the GOP as an anti-communist bulwark and a champion of strength in the face of Russian aggression.
But the Republican nominees frequent praise of Putin and talk of conditional American backing for NATO members under attack has alarmed voters with close family ties to Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and other Eastern European countries, raising the prospect that theyll bolt the top of the GOP ticket in November.
The Latvians are primarily Republicans, as are Lithuanians, Estonians, and many Ukrainians, but Trump has put them in a real bind, said Maris Mantenieks, a Latvian leader in Ohios Eastern European ethnic community. Because in all honesty they dont want to vote for [Clinton], and yet again they cant express their Republicanism due to Trumps positions.
These voters, many of whom live in swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, are deeply worried by an emboldened Moscow, and anxious over the possibility that the Baltic nations might be the next target of Russian adventurism. Trumps lavish praise of Putin has exacerbated those concerns leaving an opening that Clintons campaign is leveraging by emphasizing her willingness to get tough with Putin, and her unwavering support for NATO. Earlier this month, Clinton met with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in New York and her allies made sure to publicize the message that Trump snubbed him.
Much more here: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-russia-vladimir-putin-swing-states-228930
yellowcanine
(35,698 posts)2. Last night Rachel was talking about how Ford's debate gaffe may have cost him with Eastern European
voters. She showed some footage from the time of people from Hungary, etc. being upset that Ford made the claim that Eastern Europe was not under Soviet domination. She was making the case that the Trump Cuban Embargo scandal could cost him Florida but this is interesting that Trump's Putin bromance may also cost him.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)4. He's taking away one of their reasons they're Republicans: safety from Putin/Russia
oasis
(49,365 posts)3. Trump is Putin's pet puto.
get a room you two.
tavernier
(12,374 posts)5. Latvia's President quite recently
expressed his concerns about NATO and whichever candidate would be elected. It was obvious that he had qualms regarding Trump's ignorant talk, but was very careful with his wording. I definitely understood his words as a plea to Latvian Americans not put Trump in office.