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octoberlib Nov 2012 OP
brooklynite Nov 2012 #1
TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #2
Arkana Nov 2012 #3
struggle4progress Nov 2012 #4
JRLeft Nov 2012 #5
exboyfil Nov 2012 #7
JRLeft Nov 2012 #8
exboyfil Nov 2012 #9
JRLeft Nov 2012 #12
exboyfil Nov 2012 #16
HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #6
kysrsoze Nov 2012 #10
msongs Nov 2012 #11
GermanDem Nov 2012 #13
lunatica Nov 2012 #14
NewJeffCT Nov 2012 #15
Myrina Nov 2012 #17
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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:05 PM

1. Jindal sees his star ascending...

...since the Republicans know they need some "foreign" faces to address their immigration policy problems.

I will observe however, that when Republicans were making those "crazy" statements, Jindal and others chose to keep their mouths shut.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:07 PM

2. Bobby Jindal knows stoopid.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:07 PM

3. Well, that's it for Jindal. He's officially a RINO traitor now.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:11 PM

4. isn't he the nimwit who opposes monitoring volcanoes?









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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:17 PM

5. Isn't it unconstitutional to teach religion in public schools? Intelligent design is the fucking

bible.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:34 PM

7. An incredibly silly law

B.(1) The State Board of Elementary and Secondary Education, upon
request of a city, parish, or other local public school board, shall allow and assist teachers, principals, and other school administrators to create and foster an environment within public elementary and secondary schools that promotes critical thinking skills, logical analysis, and open and objective discussion of scientific theories being studied including, but not limited to, evolution, the origins of life, global warming, and human cloning. (2) Such assistance shall include support and guidance for teacher regarding effective ways to help students understand, analyze, critique, and objectively review scientific theories being studied, including those enumerated
in Paragraph (1) of this Subsection.
C. A teacher shall teach the material presented in the standard textbook supplied by the school system and thereafter may use supplemental textbooks and other instructionalmaterials to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner, as permitted by the city, parish, or other local public school board.

Only one of the four listed is even a scientific theory (evolution). No reputable scientists thinks a theory of the origins of life exists - we have several hypotheses that are being pursued. Global warming is either a fact or it is not. Anthropogenic Global Warming caused by CO2 build up is a hypothesis with a strong consensus that should eventually be a scientific theory. Human cloning is a procedure - it has nothing to do with a scientific theory.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:38 PM

8. They wrote the law avoiding biblical language because they know its unconstitutional. I would

hope a parent would sue the state if intelligent designed is brought up in the classroom.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:45 PM

9. Yes it does not meet the test of a scientific theory

or even a hypothesis (they had their chance with Kitzmiller). All of the pieces were in place - they even had a Reagan appointed judge, but they chickened out at the last minute leaving poor Michael Behe to get pummelled by himself (poor flagellum guy). The science since Kitzmiller has not been kind to Behe as even more evolutionary paths have been demonstrated for the flagellum (which actually independently evolved several different times). The problem is that the visual representations of the flagellum look so mechanical - it really does not look like that.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #9)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:17 PM

12. I remember the case, and the creationist crowd tried to sell the bible as theory.

It was a conservative judge who asked detail questions about real science.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:48 PM

16. Several of the Discovery Institute fellows

were supposed to make an appearance until they found out the judge was going to make it about science, and that the locals did not have their hands clean (they had perjured themselves). The Discovery Institute folks fled like cockroaches. Dembski chief among them.

What they were trying to do was introduce "Of Pandas and People" or whatever its new title was as an alternative text. A text which has been discredited. They even showed the "evolution" of the text from scientific creationism to intelligent design.

By the way the true intelligent design scientists like Behe are actually in conflict with the Discovery Institute - a dissonance exists. The folks leading the Discovery Institute do not recognize an old earth or evolution, but they are using Behe to run interference because their explanations (literal biblical) would get them laughed out of most places.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:18 PM

6. GOP embraced stupid as both their platform and base.

They'll have a hard time separating from it.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 12:50 PM

10. This means very little to me, after watching that shitbag directly contradict Obama's SotU speech..

with nary a single word of truth or signal of compromise/working across the aisle. This is just more window-dressing crap. Screw Jindal and his party.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:07 PM

11. just 7 days ago Jindal was bragging about the superiority of republican values lol nt

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:23 PM

13. If Jindal wants Republicans to stop saying stupid things

then why doesn't he just shut up?

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:26 PM

14. Stupid calling stupid stupid

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:27 PM

15. duplicate thread

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:09 PM

17. I swear I will fall over dead the day one of them actually says what they really mean.

The constant 'I believe this, no wait, the voters want that so I believe that' self-contortionism is just mind numbing.

How anyone can believe anything any of these clowns says is beyond me.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:27 PM

18. I think I found Jindal.

 



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