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Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:08 AM

Scandal probe ensnares commander of U.S., NATO troops in Afghanistan-- WTF?

ABOARD A U.S. MILITARY AIRCRAFT — The FBI probe into the sex scandal that led to the resignation of CIA director David Petraeus has expanded to ensnare Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of U.S. and NATO troops in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced early Tuesday.

According to a senior U.S. defense official, the FBI has uncovered between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of “potentially inappropriate” emails between Allen and Jill Kelley, a 37-year-old Tampa woman whose close friendship with Petraeus ultimately led to his downfall. Allen, a Marine, succeeded Petraeus as the top allied commander in Afghanistan in July 2011.

The FBI first notified the Pentagon of its investigation into Allen’s communications with Kelley on Sunday evening, according to the senior defense official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details of the ongoing case.


It also further calls into question the personal behavior of two of the U.S. military’s highest-ranking and most respected figures, who apparently ignored concerns about the highly sensitive nature of their jobs as they embraced personal relationships with younger women who were not their wives.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/scandal-probe-ensnares-commander-of-us-nato-troops-in-afghanistan/2012/11/13/7955fea4-2d54-11e2-a99d-5c4203af7b7a_story.html?tid=sm_twitter_washingtonpost

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Reply Scandal probe ensnares commander of U.S., NATO troops in Afghanistan-- WTF? (Original post)
octoberlib Nov 2012 OP
nc4bo Nov 2012 #1
Indpndnt Nov 2012 #17
Tx4obama Nov 2012 #19
RomneyLies Nov 2012 #24
Live and Learn Nov 2012 #2
geek tragedy Nov 2012 #3
Justice Nov 2012 #28
zazen Nov 2012 #4
nc4bo Nov 2012 #7
geek tragedy Nov 2012 #8
zazen Nov 2012 #25
lunatica Nov 2012 #29
onecent Nov 2012 #30
Lasher Nov 2012 #5
octoberlib Nov 2012 #9
msongs Nov 2012 #6
Ilsa Nov 2012 #26
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #10
courseofhistory Nov 2012 #11
HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #12
octoberlib Nov 2012 #13
nc4bo Nov 2012 #14
octoberlib Nov 2012 #16
octoberlib Nov 2012 #15
mzteaze Nov 2012 #18
octoberlib Nov 2012 #20
Trajan Nov 2012 #21
EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #22
manchu Nov 2012 #23
unc70 Nov 2012 #31
Ilsa Nov 2012 #27
bigdarryl Nov 2012 #32

Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:11 AM

1. This thing is blowing up fast....

I wonder if we'll ever get the full story on is going on?

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:44 AM

17. A relationship with Kelley? The one Broadwell supposedly threatened?

Curiouser and curiouser.

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Response to Indpndnt (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:00 AM

19. Yes, Kelley and General Allen.


I betcha Kelley will end up regretting complaining to the F.B.I. about the emails that Broadwell sent her.

If Kelley had not complained then no one (including herself) would have been exposed.


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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:56 AM

24. She didn't complain to the FBI, she complained to a RWNJ FBI agent

 

That agent went rogue and when the FBI ended up shutting him out, he told Cantor.

Big time old boys bullshit in both the FBI and the CIA.

Both operations are going to be fucked up over this shit.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:11 AM

2. Cheshire cat? nt

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:12 AM

3. This is like Eyes Wide Shut. Lordy. nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:18 AM

28. OMG, you are right

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:13 AM

4. "personal relationships with younger women who were not their wives"

Does it ever end?

Please, male married DU-ers. Tell me someone doesn't value young flesh more than 30 plus years of marriage to a loyal, faithful partner. I'm so TIRED of ageism against women.

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Response to zazen (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:16 AM

7. That and in addition

I have to wonder how much sensitive information these personal relationships with younger women may have exposed?

If anything like Patraeus, we've got a bit of problem.

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Response to zazen (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:20 AM

8. Not all of us are like that.

Imagining the look on your wife's face after finding out is enough to kill the urge.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:57 AM

25. you have empathy, which these guys apparently lack

Ms. Geek Tragedy can be happy in that.

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Response to zazen (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:41 AM

29. I guess a profound relationship of 30 plus years doesn't make them

feel virile, young and powerful anymore. What's the use of devoting your life to the attainment of power as a General of whatever if you can't get the added perk of getting pretty girls too?

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Response to zazen (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:47 AM

30. I don't think it will ever end. I don't want to sound

mean but it seems alot of these "older" men are thinking with the wrong organ.

I hate to see stuff like this..it has ruined MANY a career..oh, and I don't blame only the men...Oh no...these women find themselves a powerful man with deep pockets and they turn into ragiing sex maniacs...

My biggest problem with all this IS I AM SICK OF HEARING ABOUT EACH ONE FOR DAYS AND DAYS AND DAYS. They never let up on Clinton, Tiger's life was over - his golf game certainly went limp....

And FOX is doing their best to find Obama at fault....Jesus.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:15 AM

5. I think this one should be posted in LBN

Don't think General Allen's implication has been mentioned there yet.

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Response to Lasher (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:21 AM

9. I'll do that now nt

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:16 AM

6. generals don't have to follow the same rules as privates nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:02 AM

26. Rephrase: "Generals don't have to

follow the same rules governing their Privates."

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:21 AM

10. Looks like this will be the next four years

Congress will be to busy sorting this out to get anything else done

The history books will note that America was undone by sex in high places .......

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:21 AM

11. Beyond disgusting! These "men"

should be completely ashamed of themselves for violating the trust of their wives, their president and the American people, possibly putting lives and national security in grave danger. This is more than a scandal!

I am now wondering if any breaches of national security could have led to the killings in Benghazi with leaks by these women about there being a CIA operation going on there! Just amazing! *shaking head*

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:23 AM

12. The only way this story gets better....

Is if inappropriate emails between generals is discovered.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:28 AM

13. Haha! nt

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #12)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:28 AM

14. Or between Generals and a Congresscritter

or Republican operative.

Hate to say it but I think more people will pay attention to the sexual side of this more than the security side.

Sex sells in the good ole USofA but corrupt, sleazy vulture capitalists who refuse to release 10 years of tax returns and running for POTUS, not so much.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:33 AM

16. +1

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:32 AM

15. My favorite tweet about this

@AdamSerwer: The US national security state is fighting a counterinsurgency in its pants. https://twitter.com/AdamSerwer

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 01:44 AM

18. This is turning into ...

the sordid sex tales of the Military and Spies. All from a "simple catfight."

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:15 AM

20. Tweet from Buzzfeed reporter!

Andrew Kaczynski ‏@BuzzFeedAndrew
So….the Senate Armed Services Committee was set to hold a hearing to confirm John Allen Thursday as Obama's pick for European Commander.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:57 AM

21. 20,000 to 30,000 ?

Criminy ..... I don't have but a couple hundred documents extant in my whole life ..... OK, maybe a couple thousand if you include my work communications and texts and chat room discussions and Facebook interjections and DU ejaculations (it is so wrong to use that word - I apologize) ....

WTF is this guy doing with his life ? ..... 30,000 ? .....

EDIT: Oh ... I guess I have over 15,000 DU ejaculations right there .... LOL .... OK, maybe 25,000 TOTAL for my whole life ....

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:11 AM

22. Over a decade of war and hero worship have led these men and women

to believe they are Gods. I am furious that Obama and Congress was kept out of the loop
for so long. The Military obviously doesn't think they have to answer to anyone and that is
dangerous.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:46 AM

23. More importantly

The question that needs to be asked is who is Jill Kelley ( yes I know shes a socialite) and why does she consistently have access to the some of the highest people in the military? I would not be surprised to find out Petraeus slept with her as well . There was another photo of her with a vice admiral at a party she was throwing, and I think she and her husband need to be thoroughly investigated. If these two are involved with a foreign intel, this would be a SERIOUS problem.

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Response to manchu (Reply #23)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:20 AM

31. Check out Kelly's twin sister and her husband

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:14 AM

27. Another take: This is horribly sad.

I don't know if these men did this for the first time after becoming generals, or if they've been doing it all along.

My hope is that their need for sex and intimacy has been born out of long deployments and previous separation from their wives. We know from the last ten years that military couples of all ranks have suffered from long term separation, thanks to these two Bush wars.

My hope is also that they were careful in selecting their partners who were not in any way under their control or command.

My hope is that these couples can work through their problems, but given public pressure and embarrassment, I wonder if the wives will chose to keep them. I don't think I'd be able to work through the public humiliation.

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Response to octoberlib (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:43 AM

32. I'm not surprised I was in the military

There's so much screwing going on in the service you could shake a stick at.I seen it all and that was back between 1978 to 1982 when I was in basic training the company commander was screwing a young female trainee and got relieved of duty

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