2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum@GeorgeTakei: I don't get Sanders supporters who now back Johnson.
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I don't get Sanders supporters who now back Johnson. Sanders stood for people power. Johnson wants more for corporations. Do your homework.
https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/779686214123257856
sinkingfeeling
(51,438 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)some Sanders supporters were putting into their position. A big chunk of that support was simple bandwagoning.
JCanete
(5,272 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)JI7
(89,241 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)It was to be "different".
Some of the Sanders-now-Johnson people think weed means more than anything in their life, and some are just revengeful, spiteful assholes.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)I don't get the gravitation towards libertarianism myself.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,148 posts)I'm a 60 year old white woman. It was all about the issues for me. Frankly, I'm not sure how "outsider" Johnson really is. He was a Rebuplican who switched to Libertarian. I guess it's better to be a big fish in a small pond.
shireen
(8,333 posts)They regularly post on Robert Reich's facebook page with a their-way-or-the-highway petulance.
They don't understand what Bernie is trying to do. They call him a traitor, a sell-out. It's so sad.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Bernie's no sell out. He's doing what he can, with what he has.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)I think the Clinton campaign or a supportive group needs to target some info/education towards millenials about the real nature of Libertarianism. It's more than just freedom to smoke dope.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 24, 2016, 07:27 PM - Edit history (1)
She she be for legalization.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)the only issue facing the US and it isn't the most critical. And there are Libertarian positions that would shock millenials.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Ilsa
(61,690 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Or equally trivial, however you want to view it. Not understanding this fact causes confusion and frustration.
In my opinion, we should try to entice people into sharing our world view, and then point out how the Dems are the best for moving things in that direction. Easier said than done, but still, that's my opinion.
JI7
(89,241 posts)RKP5637
(67,089 posts)Response to BootinUp (Original post)
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uppityperson
(115,677 posts)Leaf collecting is a better hobby.
phallon
(260 posts)Check out this on Gary Johnson, http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/here-are-12-ways-gary-johnson-is-a-hardcore-right-wing-radical/
and consider this New Republic article https://newrepublic.com/article/137061/confessions-ross-perot-voter.
MH1
(17,573 posts)But no one who calls themself liberal or progressive can possibly vote for Trump.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)Getting rid of taxes? Everybody for themselves? Libertarianism ain't my thang.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)WHo cares about all the details.
DarthDem
(5,255 posts)Sorry to paint with a broad brush, but libertarianism is so often such a goofy, cobbled-together, inherently contradictory mess of positions. It's just, in this election at least, a petulant protest vote.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)brooklynboy49
(287 posts)It's clearly an anti-vagina vote <rolls eyes>
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)There is obvious sexism at play here. Probably hard to see it with your eyes rolled to the back of your head.
obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)and it was so predictable. Now why would some of them support libertarians who are only interested in protecting their 2 foot sphere of "me"? It kind of answers itself.
JI7
(89,241 posts)I have said that if Jim Webb was the only one was running agsinst her they would have supported him.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That's pretty much all some folks need to know.
BootinUp
(47,096 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,767 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)For alot of these people, they consider themselves above the tastes of 'regular' people, which includes their politics, which is more about fashion and impressing their friends more than anything else.
It's also telling that they didn't move over to Stein, which simply confirms the 'Bernie Bro' stereotype, especially since alot of these guys voted for Obama, who is basically the same ideologically as Hillary, who would advance similar policies.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)obamanut2012
(26,047 posts)Some of the most sexist and misogynist men I have ever known have been liberal men -- even though they denied it. But, they were.
Bucky
(53,962 posts)Johnson is less willing than Republicans to screw over people to give corporations what they want. It's the contrast from low expectations, plus the pot, that makes Johnson seem likeable.