2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPEOPLE ARE BOYCOTTING CHICKENHAWK-FIL-A, APPLEBEE'S AND PAPA JOHN'S.
If the list gets much longer, we won't be eating all the cholesterol-laden garbage that causes the health problems they don't want to insure against. Papa John can keep his DEEP BS Pizza!
Blue Owl
(50,270 posts)n/t
NYtoBush-Drop Dead
(490 posts)Both gave millions to pacs for MittWitt and Mini Mitt.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Most wait staff jobs are part time and the hourly pay scale is absurd.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)I'll have to ask him about it. Today is Vet Day and they do a big thing for the Vet on this day. They have to show their military ID card and they get a free meal. I think that is wonderful.
USMCMustang
(109 posts)Someone is paying for it. I decided not to partake because of the employee abuse. The supposed "fight for freedom" doesn't mean much when people here don't have it.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)only hurting the employees who need these jobs badly. You can make it up by giving the waiters and waitress decent tips. You be surprised how bad they are tips by customers.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)They may offer the Vet a free meal but when they offer his family a free meal I might be a little more
impressed. They get the Vet in for the free meal and those with him paying full price covers any expense
to Applebees.
A corporation that threatens to layoff workers because a National election failed to go their way is the least
patriotic business model possible. They have zero respect for the American public which has spoken loud and clear.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)I know here in our community when they need to raise funds for an ill person they have a pancake breakfast and they pay for the food and am not sure if the employees get paid or they volunteer. They have alot of them. Usually for cancer patiences. Am not saying they are perfect. But I will continue to suppose these young people who work there. They need the jobs.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)I'm sorry to suggest otherwise. But when so many others are possibly going to lose their jobs
because of one franchise owners hissy fit over the election results, we have to stand up for those
employees.
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)Very well put!
demosincebirth
(12,530 posts)owned by DARDENS...sooo where are we going to eat? Oh well, I guess I'll have to eat at the "greasy spoon" uptown.
Unless a customer boycott is organized to boycott one or two of these restaurants, specificly, they won't feel a thing.
adieu
(1,009 posts)we have about 4000 licensed eateries from big to small. Very few of them are corporate chains like Applebees and such (and if they're here, they're relegated away from the downtown, northeast part of the city; they're situated closer to Daly City at Stonestown). It behooves a city to foster its indigenous cuisine. The planning department should definitely have a moratorium on big-box corporate dining options, as well as discount retail stores (I'm looking at ya, Wal*Mart).
Yes, there will be more failures because (a) restaurants are tough businesses to succeed in and (b) mom-and-pop restaurant owners are not necessarily smart business people. But over time, the city will develop its own identity for food. The succeeding restaurants will create imitations and those will compete with the top, forcing both to innovate and become better restaurants. They don't succeed by having a big bankroll to just outlast the mom-and-pops. The corporate ones just come in, price their stuff lower than the existing competition and sit and wait until those restaurants can succeed anymore. All it takes is about two or three months of below-average revenue to kill a restaurant. Just another form of vulture capitalism.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)has anyone that wants to go out for a nice meal in your area by the balls.
Sounds like the Walmart of the restaurant industry. This really an eye opener
for me.
My area has all the franchises but most people prefer to go to one
of the many family or individual owned restaurants that prepare local produce,
dairy, local wines, butchered meat, poultry, seafood etc. that further support
jobs and growth in our State.
Irishonly
(3,344 posts)If we eat out we go to a family owned business. I have never heard of Longhorn or a couple of the other ones. We tried Papa Johns and about gagged. We threw the pizza out.
I go to Farmer's Markets for produce and a local grocer has a butcher. It's not that far to San Pedro for sea food. Not everyone has all of the options my family and I are afforded and I feel badly for them.
crunch60
(1,412 posts)The large casino I worked for up until two years ago, was doing the same thing back then. This isn't a new policy, but I think we will see more of it since the last election.
CoboWowbo
(32 posts)It looks like it's just one franchise owner (owns 40 Applebees restaurants in New York)
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/11/09/1173181/applebees-ceo-obamacare/
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)over franchise owners and how their individual restaurants reflect on the corporations
reputation and public image. They have contracts that hold franchise owners to strict
conditions regarding issues like this.
If Applebees across the country are being impacted by this one owner actions, this crap
will end immediately.
DavidDvorkin
(19,468 posts)The entire Applebee's chain has not retaliated against its workers because of Obama's reelection. That was only one Applebee's franchise.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,468 posts)southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)pstokely
(10,523 posts)nt
DavidDvorkin
(19,468 posts)because of this action.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Hey Pukes...Yup, there are indeed consequences, when you take out your HATE on the American citizens and workers.
union_maid
(3,502 posts)places I never go? Never been to Papa John's. As far as I know there are no Chick-a-fils around here. There's an Applebee's very nearby but their food is awful so we never use that. Also Macy's. I think we're boycotting that because Donald Trump, but I don't think I've shopped there for over 20 years because - overpriced. They are just not going to feel losing my business.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)by 2 lunatic homophobic groups...not sane people.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)n/t
fightthegoodfightnow
(7,042 posts)a clerk at Macy tried to sell me a Trump shirt and I let him have it......probably too strongly but he knows the issue know... That's for sure!
Mz Pip
(27,432 posts)A shirt with Donald's face on it.
fightthegoodfightnow
(7,042 posts).
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)They are circulating a petition asking Macy's to drop Trump's merchandize....
fightthegoodfightnow
(7,042 posts)....that works too!
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)as it targets Trump specifically.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)of ugly toupee's!
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)dust the floor do you?
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)Trump toupees are popular every Halloween.
mrsadm
(1,198 posts)Sorry I missed that one
fightthegoodfightnow
(7,042 posts)....under his label.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)MoveOn is circulating a petition asking Macy's to drop Trump's line of merchandize. I signed it earlier today. That is different from a boycott.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)When they remove his line from their stores I will reinstate my credit card...Christmas is just around the corner!!!
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)did they respond?
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)I asked to speak with public relations department. I then asked them to document my reason for
cancelling my card and said that I would re-instate it once Trumps line was no longer carried by their
corporation. They thanked me for the input and were very cordial but smug.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Write a Presidential complaint...Or be sure to sign the MoveOn petition.
cyclezealot
(4,802 posts)Now we won't.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)My daughter worked there in Loss Prevention and quit. She says that the majority of people she meets in her line of work, at one time or another worked at Macy's, and quit.
Former employees talk, and it's not just those who were fired or laid off.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)Here is a little something I did today. I have only purchased pizza from Papa Johns one time in my life that i recall so boycotting means nothing. However I did call them today and said to the young lady. "I am calling to NOT order a pizza, while I am sure you are a wonderful person the CEO of your company has his head up his butt." She replied "I agree" I told her to have a good day.
otohara
(24,135 posts)Since Macy's took over the store(s) I use to shop at, the prices have way gone up.
The only fast food we eat are Chipotle, Smash Burger.
I boycott so many places, and products...my pet peeve has nothing to do with politics...chemical fragrances...they are slowing are killing us and harming the unborn.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Go to and support your local Mom and Pop restaurants. You will find just about any kind of food you want, AND you can be sure it's a lot BETTER.
There is a local breakfast/lunch restaurant where I used to live. The mother started it almost 30 years ago. She, her daughter, her son, her sisters and brothers, all work there, and LIVE in the community. The lines are out the door to get a table there. There is small local farm nearby and she buys her supplies from them. Chain CRAP???? I am sure after Mom retires, it will be run by her children. We asked her once if she intended to open an additional restaurant. She told us that just this one was enough for her.
THOSE are kind of places you want to patronize.
fightthegoodfightnow
(7,042 posts)!
arcane1
(38,613 posts)EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)If people realized where the food they serve in these restaurants come from
and the impact it has on the US economy I think we would all be surprised.
Produce, meat and other ingredients are shipped from outside the US.
The guy disgusted with his job being shipped to China, then goes and has dinner
at an Outback Steakhouse or other franchise that refuses to utilize American
raised and grown ingredients.
We stopped at a 5 Guys yesterday. While they are a franchise they list on the
board everyday where the potatoes come from that they prepare that day.
Thought that was pretty cool.
FSogol
(45,448 posts)They're recently put up signs in their store noting that they have no microwaves, freezers, or can openers in their store. Everything is fresh.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)Also like that the kitchen is completely open so you can see how
clean it is and how your food is being handled.
There are a TON of chain restaurants in town, however we only really eat at two. The rest of the places we eat out at are a local place where we get on well with the owners, and a local deli that sources food locally. The latter is a bit pricy but the food is damned good.
I doubt the local places give health insurance to their employees, but at least they're not run by a bunch of corporate swindlers.
Just more proof that we need nationalized health care, not for-profit insurance compaines.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)InsultComicDog
(1,209 posts)courseofhistory
(801 posts)on this thread. I've already started tweeting and spreading the word. I hope others do too.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251242633
quakerboy
(13,917 posts)I don't go to these places anyway. But I would add myself to a boycot based On The sentiments of the CEOs.
On the flip side, the more insurance moves from employer to employee, the more serious people will treat it, and the better our system will get. I really hate our benefit system. People should be paid cash in full, and get to decide what benefits they want from their own budget.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)but like you I let those places go years ago, now if the Vegitarian Chinese Resturant starts laying off workers because Obama got re-elected
well it will be hard but I will do my part
FreeState
(10,570 posts)Its policies and actual money from the sales going to deny American families fundamental civil rights.
quakerboy
(13,917 posts)And for that reason, if I frequented any of these places, I would be rethinking that patronage.
That said, I don't believe for a second any of them are cutting jobs due to the aca. Anyone that desperate to avoid paying for benefits probably has benefits themselves and probably has already made it corporate policy to make sure hours are kept low to avoid giving them to any employees anyway.
And in the end, it's kinda a good thing. the thing that divides me is notch ether dirtbag CEOs just talk big stupid, or follow it up with money. Either way they are scum in my book. But I would like to see all benefits, health care, retirement, whatever it is, paid cash out to employees. I think having them under company control is just a way of manipulating employees.
ffr
(22,665 posts)Not only does he think Obama is a socialist, but wants Shelley Berkley, who lost, and Harry Reid defeated.
Wynn, owner of many of the Las Vegas strip hotels and whose businesses have grown substantially during Obama's presidency, says he's refusing to start any new real estate development until Obama is defeated (see bottom). He wanted Berkley & Reid to oppose the Affordable Care Act.
...He is absolutely going to be a fabulous president.
...He's never ever been unsuccessful at anything he's ever tried.
...Here's a guy that's been tremendously successful at picking people in business and being successful.
...He's got great judgement.
Jon Ralston Reports (FFWD 15:00 remaining)
11/09/12 - Steve Wynn proposes riverfront casino in Fishtown <linked here>
beac
(9,992 posts)Guess the $10million bailout he needed to save Bain, the loss to Ted Kennedy, leaving Massachusetts with a 30% approval rating and running for Prez for six years and still LOSING don't count, according to Wynn?
As for the fabulousity, the terrificness and the judgement?? Double !
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)ffr
(22,665 posts)BOYCOTT LIST
Amway (100%)
Kohler Co. (100%)
Phillips International (100%)
Cooper Industries (100%)
Flowers Industries (100%)
Pilgrim's Pride Corp. chicken (100%)
Waffle House (100%)
Harris Corp. (98%)
B.F. Goodrich tires (97%)
Illinois Toolworks (97%)
WalMart, ($467K, 97%)
Outback Steakhouse (96%)
ExxonMobil (96%)
National City Corp. (95%)
Outback Steakhouse (95%)
Wendy's Int' l. (93%)
Anadarko Petroleum (92%)
Coors ( 92%)
Hallmark Cards (92%)
Timken Corp. (91%)
Halliburton (91%)
Meadwestvaco Corp (90%)
Darden Restaurants (Red Lobster, Olive Garden, Smokey Bones, Bahama Breeze) (89%)
Branch Banking & Trust Co (90%)
International Paper (90%)
CATERPILLAR (89%)
J.C.PENNEY CORP. INC. (89%)
GOODYEAR TIRE (89%)
Home Depot (89%)
CONOCOPHILLIPS SPIRIT (89%)
SMITHFIELD FOODS INC (88%)
CHEVRONTEXACO (87%)
3M Co. (87%)
Tricon Global Restaurants (KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell) (87%)
McDonald's Corp. (86%)
FORD MOTOR COMPANY (84%)
Brinker International (Maggiano's, Brinker Cafe, Chili's, On the Border, Macaroni Grill, Crazymel's, Corner Baker, EatZis) (83%)
CIGNA CORPORATION (83%)
OWENS CORNING (83%)
CONAGRA FOODS (83%)
HOME DEPOT INC. (81%)
Mariott International, (81%)
BAXTER HEALTHCARE CORPORATION (81%)
3M COMPANY (80%)
Brown-Forman Corp. (Southern Comfort, Jack Daniels, Bushmills, Korbel wines - as well as Lennox China, Dansk, Gorham Silver) (80%)
JP Morgan Chase & Co (hard to figure completely but heavily Republican)
These figures are not up to date. But then these leopards never change spots. their executives get their marching orders and that's that.
Note that the fast food chains that make their money off the working class, are heavily Republican. The one exception used to be the Arby's, T.J. Cinnamon's, Pasta Connections system. They got bought by Wendy's and then by Roark Capital Group.
I can make an easy change based on that one ! Good excuse to avoid fast food, period.
There are Good Guys:
Price Club/Costco, 99% went to democrats;
Magla Products (Stanley tools, Mr. Clean), 100% to democrats;
Rite Aid, 60% to democrats;
Warnaco (undergarments), 73% to democrats;
Guess ? Inc. (98%)
Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia, 99% to democrats;
Estee Lauder, 95% to democrats;
Calvin Klein, 100% to democrats;
Liz Claiborne, Inc., 97% to democrats;
Levi Straus, 97% to democrats;
Olan Mills, 99% to democrats.
Gallo Winery, 95% to democrats;
Southern Wine & Spirits, 73% to democrats;
Joseph E. Seagrams & Sons (includes beverage business, plus considerable media interests), 67% to Democrats.
Sonic Corporation, $83K, 98% democrat;
Hyatt Corporation, 80% to democrats;
There's also a middle road. Some balance in their contributions:
Proctor & Gamble, 79% to Republicans
Holiday Inns, 71% to republicans.
Target, 70% to Republicans -- much better than Wal-Mart at 100% GOPer.
Daily KOS
JustAnotherGen
(31,781 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)they started in Oklahoma and I have always loved going there.
Lists like these should be updated and posted on a regular basis. Maybe printed and handed out.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)goblue316
(69 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)These are the ones I know about. I'm getting a lot of new ideas from the comments here.
Tribalceltic
(1,000 posts)Almost all of our purchases are from Mom and pop stores that we can walk to. Our Pizza shop is a small independent. We have no Costco nearby and need to make some purchases from walmart. Maybe once a year. When we do go there it's sale items, coupons and check the low prices everywhere. Our son just fixed our old washer with a $7 part ordered over the internet. Took one hour of his time. We have a local farmers market starting up we plan to go to. My other son is planning a garden next year.
onethatcares
(16,162 posts)and, Welcome to DU.
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)There's a lot that people can do when they think about it.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)The chances of me eating in any of those places is zilch, zero. The Papa John's guy really annoys me.
Rockyj
(538 posts)Apple & quit buying I-Pod & I-Pads because of slave labor & the horrid work conditions in China???
"In many cases, people literally are dying while making Apple products. Reporters have documented cases of deadly explosions at iPad factories, and repeated instances of employees dying of exhaustion after working 34-hour continuous shifts and repeated 60-hour weeks. In some of the factories Apple contracts with, so many employees have attempted suicide that management installed nets to prevent employees from dying while jumping off building ledges."[link:http://sumofus.org/campaigns/ethical-iphone/|
Why aren't people boycotting clothing stores that support sweat shops in third work countries?
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)conscience about those workers at foxxconn is not so much in the forefront, but now i gotta boycott a pizza chain.
i have asked that very question here and what i get are a long list of excuses. but they all say this "i just gotta have the latest i-gizmo for reasons x,y,and z, sorry about the worker and all but the new i-crap has a new feature i gotta have!"
StrayKat
(570 posts)You have a very good point. Convenience is always a huge factor as is knowledge, and, of course, some people aren't interested or aren't interested in that particular cause. But, I think that even for people who attempt to do the right thing there are so many injustices out there it is hard to keep track of them all, especially when you combine different reasons -- slave labor, animal rights, toxic materials, foreign manufacture, GMO's, bad politics, religious preferences, etc. Sometimes it seems that there are no highly ethical companies to support.
It might be more useful if people compiled lists of 'safe' companies to patronize with multiple factors weighted. I think boycott lists are harder to remember than remembering which brands and companies you want to support.
FreeState
(10,570 posts)Every electronics company makes them under the same circumstances, Apple is one of the few that is actually listening and trying to change the conditions. Are they perfect - no, there is much more work to do. However, at least Apple is listening and making changes, unlike the fast food companies here who have not made a single change after public outcry.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,144 posts)Not just Apple. Foxconn makes things for hp, Dell, Samsung, Toshiba, etc. It's stinks, but it's been that way for decades. It started out with TV's and stereos made in Japan. As for sweat shop labor making clothes, frankly those were shitty jobs when they were here. They were piece work, usually in the south or rural areas and paid minimum wage or lower. Buy a white t-shirt from American Apparel and pay $22. Buy a 5 pack of Hanes made overseas for $18.50. The cure is not to bring those shitty jobs back to the US. It's for the Chinese to stand up, organize and demand to be treated decently and paid fair wages. They're about a hundred years behind us in that regard. But it will turn around, with time. But we are dreaming if we think things like clothing manufacturing are coming back to the US.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)It's like if you found out that Tilamook cheese was made from milk and didn't think that cheese should be made from milk, so you instead decided to buy some other brand of cheese (protip: it's all made from milk).
Rockyj
(538 posts)I just figured out how to look up my past comments. I enjoyed reading the responses!
onethatcares
(16,162 posts)the Miami Dolphins play against Tennessee there was not a one of the papa/elway commercials.
None, zip,nada.
As has been posted elsewhere on this forum, he(john steppingshit) was going to give away 2 million pizzas
as some kind of promotion, imagine him just giving up the cost of those 2,000,000 pizzas for health care for his employees.
jehop61
(1,735 posts)I'll be patronizing local, mom and pop, restaurants from now on. Food is usually better, fresher and staff really seems to care.
pasto76
(1,589 posts)In my opinion that is the line that was crossed. YES, keeping people part time to avoid benefits SUCKS. THATS WHY IM IN A UNION AND WHY I ADVOCATE ORGANIZING EVERYTHING. but telling his employees straight up - your hours are going to be cut because I support radical politics. Thats a special manner of lunacy.
Maybe if Papa John's pizzas didn't taste like shit they would sell more pies and then they wouldn't have to worry about health care cost
Caeser67
(156 posts)For years now. Glad to see others doing the same.
Texin
(2,590 posts)I told him we're boycotting because they were going to cut hours of employees to fewer than 30 per week in order to get around providing healthcare benefits for their employees. We ordered from a local restaurant and had the best pizza we've had (except when I prepare one from scratch myself) than we've ever gotten a a chain.
I'm surprised that Trump hasn't had his show canceled from the NBC lineup, frankly. Most of his bullshit was just to gin up buzz and ratings for his ridiculous show anyway. And since he took vicious down all his vicious Obama comments post-election, I'm wondering if one of the network execs told him to purge those tweets and keep his piehole shut or he'd end up like Charlie Sheen. I think that and the call the security guard at his Trump Tower residence gave him Tuesday night about a couple of guys in black suits and wearing wires were on their way up to have chat with him about some "comments" he'd made about the President, probably had that chilling effect on his rhetoric.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)who have made and or carried out threats over the ACA.
A big list that includes advertisers of Fox News Channel and advertisers of conservative radio talk shows as well as others mentioned by commenters here would be very useful. It could be sorted alphabetically and made as user-friendly as possible.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Tab
(11,093 posts)n/t
libhippy
(5 posts)Why does this feel like something Repugs would do? I guess I'm just not that vindictive and seems like the wrong people get hurt.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)My daughter has been trying to get a job at COSTCO for years but says their employees don't LEAVE. You have to wait for retirements.
PUBLIX is supposed to be good too, and where their employees STAY. Right now they they have signs all over asking for contributions for Sandy. They are trucking shipments of food up to NY and NJ.
That is a good rule of thumb to look at. Do they have a high turnover of employees? If the staff STAYS, they are a good place to work for. Whenever there is an opening where my husband works, they always get ASG people to be the first to apply.
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)tell her to really stress working in the roasted chicken dept.
My son worked that job during his JR. year in college. It's
the job everyone there hates but once she gets her foot in the door
she will move up and get to do what she enjoys.
I live about five miles from their corporate headquarters and the store
located there. Know so many kids that have worked there while going to
school over the years. For some reason it's not very hard to get employed
there especially for someone that really wants to work for COSTCO. James
Sinegal the CEO and a Democrat can often be seen walking thru the store
and checking things out. He's an amazingly nice man. I bet if she wrote him
a personal letter he might help her get an interview. Just a thought
iandhr
(6,852 posts)I eat real pizza. I would never give them my business even before this.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)which is very HOT to do in South Florida, or I simply wait until I go back to NY to have REAL pizza, at LOCAL Mom and Pop places; not some big, fancy, tourist, expensive place. I really PIGGED OUT on pizza in NY two weeks ago. lI even managed to get my "fix" after Sandy before I came back where I found a place open. lol
eridani
(51,907 posts)Great pizzas are really hard to avoid there.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)they're owned by the same corporate overlords (DineEquity) as Applebees.
Also, Red Lobster and Olive Garden are on the boycott list as well.
tblue37
(65,227 posts)mouthier franchise owners. Appleby Corporate didn't say they'd cut hours because of Obamacare.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)I never go there, but their pies....OH, their pies.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)in a long, long time. Maybe Applebee's, but I don't remember when. But I have been vegetarian for 16 years so have not eaten at Chick-Fil-A. And I had Papa John's one time and the pizza was awful.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)That doesnt even make any sense
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)Not too long ago there was an association between Chick-Fil-A and Republican neocons, who are also known as Chickenhawks, because they were draft dodgers when they were eligible, but later were spoiling for war at every opportunity.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)I can see the purpose of boycotting a place because of their business practices - that's why I'll never spend a dime at a Walmart - but boycotting them because of the politics of an owner or executive seems silly.
I've never had a Chick-Fil-A, but now I want one - I'd never really heard enough about it before. Mmmm... fried chicken.
Want good food? Make your decisions about what to eat based on who can provide you with the food you want under the physical and economic conditions you want. Caring about how the owner spends their free time seems silly. I don't see how it's anyone's business. If the owners are idiots and want to piss their money away in ways that will never sway how I vote, let them waste it.
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)I think we should do what we can to help. These companies chose to publicize their politics, hoping to leverage their power. We on the other side can now leverage our power.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)If companies change their policies about employment now because of legalities of insurance or whatever, that's nothing new - that's what they've always done. I don't think there's a purpose to fault them for that. The fault is in the law that allows them to do so, or, as I see it, that that is even a concern. In a fully modern country, access to healthcare would never be tied to one's employment status, and - ideally - not even to money.
I think these sort of boycotts are really just blaming the messenger - no different really than asking the rich to voluntarily give more of their earnings to the government instead of just having our legislature tax them equitably.
There are always going to be people - business owners and otherwise - who we disagree with. The answer is not to shut down their voice, but to make their voice irrelevant, whether you want to buy a chicken sandwich from them or not.
eppur_se_muova
(36,247 posts)quispquake
(3,050 posts)That I would eat at was Applebees, and that's it for them...they want to play hard ball? Fuck 'em all...
Change has come
(2,372 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Chain restaurants are the most boring thing on earth.
johnlennon_shallrise
(96 posts)NightOwwl
(5,453 posts)Applebees and the independent business owners who franchise our company's restaurants throughout the U.S. recognize that affordable health care is a critically important issue facing our country. Because final regulations and guidance are still pending from government agencies regarding the Affordable Care Act (ACA), exactly how our franchisees will implement the law when it takes effect in 2014 is still uncertain. However, we do know that our franchisees will comply fully with the law and take every measure possible to continue doing right by their employees -- the lifeblood of their businesses. Applebees franchisees have always led their companies as responsible, caring employers, and implementation of the new law will be consistent with that commitment.
Recent public comments by one Applebee's franchisee about the possible implications of the ACA on jobs within his individual company were not the views or opinions of either Applebee's or other franchisees, although we respect his right to speak freely as an American. Importantly, it is also worth noting that this franchisee opened a new restaurant last week that created approximately 200 jobs, and will be opening another restaurant next month with a similar number of positions. Applebee's and our franchisees remain committed to growing our business and providing opportunities for employees in the future.
About Applebees Applebees (www.applebees.com) is the worlds largest casual dining chain, with approximately 2,000 locations in 49 states, 15 countries and one U.S. territory. Based in Kansas City, Mo., Applebees takes pride in providing a welcoming, neighborhood environment where everyone can enjoy the dining experience. Applebees Neighborhood Grill & Bar® is a DineEquity, Inc. (NYSE: DIN) brand, and is franchised and operated by Applebees Services, Inc. and its affiliates.
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bamacrat
(3,867 posts)While I get that discrimination is discrimination. Purposely trying to refuse workers health insurance is worse than being against gay marriage IMO... but since they all seem to be the same I will boycott them for both reasons. Applebee's and Papa John's will be easy since Applebee's sucks bad and I can't stand that scumbag Schnatter. Chik-fil-a is tasty but I can refrain.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)I think of it more as choice, saving money, more time at the grocery store fresh deli, watching more of the Food Channel rather than a boycott. My favorite, Sandra Lee, Semi-Homemade.