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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:34 AM

Ooh! I have an idea to get control of the House NOW!!!

The Tea Party whack-a-doodles plan on going after "moderate" Republicans to replace them with more crazy folks, which means primary battles will reflect the new Civil War that these people will be fighting.

Any chance there are enough SANE moderate Republicans who we wouldn't mind being associated with - you know, where the only way to get to Washington so you can try to make a difference is to be a Republican? Can we bring them over, honor them for their willingness to work FOR America, and then provide them support so we can use them as leaders to help turn America blue?

Can we convert the elected and take control to benefit the country?

If the Tea Party wants a civil war, I say we offer SANCTUARY to the sane ones!!!

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Reply Ooh! I have an idea to get control of the House NOW!!! (Original post)
IdaBriggs Nov 2012 OP
geek tragedy Nov 2012 #1
IdaBriggs Nov 2012 #3
geek tragedy Nov 2012 #6
IdaBriggs Nov 2012 #9
Iggy Nov 2012 #14
Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #17
Iggy Nov 2012 #18
Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #20
Iggy Nov 2012 #21
Jeff In Milwaukee Nov 2012 #22
Squinch Nov 2012 #7
xtraxritical Nov 2012 #15
Squinch Nov 2012 #5
Turbineguy Nov 2012 #8
clydefrand Nov 2012 #10
dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #2
Anthony McCarthy Nov 2012 #4
mucifer Nov 2012 #11
brer cat Nov 2012 #12
bemildred Nov 2012 #13
Coyotl Nov 2012 #16
Wounded Bear Nov 2012 #19

Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:35 AM

1. There are about 5-10 sane House Republicans. That's it. nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:41 AM

3. I thought the Tea Party caucus was only 50 or so strong?

Last I saw it was 233 to 194 - convert 20, and the balance if power shifts. Identify the races where the establishment didn't help financially, and maybe, if it can be done "en mass" ....

Boehner is vulnerable - let us go for his proverbial throat!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:48 AM

6. The Republican Party is the Tea Party--100% overlap in both directions. nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:59 AM

9. I am not convinced of this.

We would need 10% successful conversion.

Carrot: full status/seniority under new party, pledge of support at election time (50 state strategy).

Stick: support for Tea Party Challenger during primary, then 50 state strategy to take them out now that we know their weakness.

We can make them a minority party for decades as long as we encourage the Tea Party folks to keep talking....

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:29 AM

14. Boehner and Cantor haven't convinced you??

 

then you're not paying attention.

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Response to Iggy (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:43 AM

17. Boehner is a hostage...

I don't think he's full-blown Tea Party. He's just trying to keep his job.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:48 AM

18. And His Job is to

 

hold our economic recovery hostage for 5-6-7 years?

Given Rmoney was just crushed in OH.. and part of the reason for that is Obama assisting the auto industry (middle class jobs)-- I would think Boehner is smart enough to see that-- and to see even redistricting shenagigans may not guarantee his seat in Congress.

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Response to Iggy (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:11 AM

20. Boehner has one of the safest seats in Ohio

Only in 2006 did his tally dip below 70% and this past cycle he didn't even have an opponent. His only threat is from a Tea Party primary opponent.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:16 AM

21. Understood, However

 

the notion it's "good strategy" to simply give up on numerous congressional seats means the Dems are not going to regain control of the House anytime soon.

time is running out.

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Response to Iggy (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 11:23 AM

22. Concentrate on the ones we can win...

Boehner's seat isn't even close to being purple. Steve Chabot's seat in the 1st CD (despite his margin of victory this time), is a more attainable goal.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:49 AM

7. Just made the same point at the same time!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:51 AM

15. 190 Democrat , 240 Republican , 5 vacant.

 

Here's a link. You're right we're gaining ground. No I would not support Republicans under any circumstances as per your idea. We've given the opposition plenty of rope to hang themselves with and so far they're doing a good job. Keep the faith, never capitulate. DEMOCRATS/2014 all the way!
(edit for spelling, their to they're)

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:57 AM

8. Biden mentioned the number 36 last Sunday.

The teabaggers can squirm all they want but they will not succeed at destroying the country.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:07 AM

10. That many?

Maybe 1 or 2, but 10?

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:40 AM

2. A creative thought, indeed.

Don't know if the Reich Wing Party will allow any sane ones to run, tho.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 08:47 AM

4. Good for a few flips but I doubt it will do it this time

 

We have to concentrate on winning 2014, the House, Senate, state legislatures, governorships, etc.

We need a 50 state, EVERY ELECTION COUNTS strategy. If Democrats had won the 2010 election we would have been far better off now.

That largely depends on Barack Obama keeping faith with the voters who supported him and the leadership in the Senate making it very painful and difficult to filibuster and put holds on nominees and bills. Anyone who wants to hold up the Senate should be made to do what the Great Bernie Sanders did in his great filibuster. He had the support of other Senators for that. I am sure there are maybe even a handful of Republicans who would like to do more than obstruct. It wouldn't take any of them though they might like to break the McConnell strategy that has led them to the defeat they suffered this time.

I'm more than willing to support leadership that leads to making progress, I'd quit my work and go more than full time for someone like that. But they've got to lead and they have to do it now.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:14 AM

11. IF the Affordable Care Act is popular when it kicks in in 2014

Repubs won't be able to win the house.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:21 AM

12. It is an interesting idea.

Many independents and moderate republicans that I know are sincere in wanting bipartisanship, and they do not want the same party (either party) to have the WH and both houses of Congress. I would think that moderate R's could win in many districts if independents and Dems were supportive. It would go against the grain here on DU to support R's, but if the alternative is more batshit crazy, then we might hold our nose and vote R.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 09:22 AM

13. I consider that a distinct possibility already.

And it makes good sense to pursue it. Specifically, I expect Boehner and Mitch to have a lot of difficulty with "party discipline" as it is, they've been hit, clobbered, shellacked, shown to be impotent, so the fear factor is much reduced. So I expect individual Congresspersons, esp. Rs, to be looking to their own future interests, and we ought to welcome anybody willing to vote our way on board.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:01 AM

16. I can't wait to see elephants fly, dogs and cats lay eggs, and rednecks turn blue

Yeah, that's going to happen

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 10:50 AM

19. There's a downside....

any outreach to Republicans will be seen by the TPers as meddling and subversion. It will energize their base more.

Still, it's a thought. I'd love to see some moderation on the Repub side for a change. The TP caucus did shrink this cycle IIRC.

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