Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:32 PM
JackN415 (745 posts)
Repub super PAC, Rove, and the Battle of MidwayLast edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:08 PM USA/ET - Edit history (6)
Just back from lunch, listening to old timer Repubs chatting.
Will we look back 2012 election as the Battle of Midway? You can say anything about Rove, but this one thing cannot be denied: Rove is a very intense and hard-working guy. He was not covering his ass and BS when saying that without him, the loss would have been even worse. According to some, Rove really believes this. He put up the most intense fight the best he knew. But he was tactically, strategically wrong and lost. What he really meant when he said "voter suppressing", which draws ridicules from all quarters, is that the expression was used in the "effect" sense (consequence), not the "action" sense (intention). Rove was too arrogant and confident in his belief that messages (TV ads) are sufficient to motivate people to take action. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Rove was beaten in his own game, because Obama's ads were equally effective and devastating to the point it turned off, hence effectively "suppressed", the conservative voters that he thought he could energize them to go out and vote for Romney. In other words, Obama's TV ads countermeasured, or "suppressed" the effectiveness of his ads, canceling each other. Indeed, the Repub did throw everything into it. The battle was indeed intense, like Nimitz trying to draw the Japanese navy into a big battle to settle once for all. Either the US Pacific fleet would be destroyed, or the Japanese seemingly invincible Imperial fleet would be crippled. It hurts Rove's pride tremendously to be out-mastered in a game he thought he was supreme. He swift-boated opponent but never expected to be counter attacked so devastatingly. Like Japanese commander (Nagumo) confidently sent out his strike task force to sink US carriers, never expected his carriers to be destroyed by the US task force. Rove was genuine in his belief in saying that without his PAC, the loss would have been worse. The stake is high. The Republican and Rove threw in everything they got, sensing that there was no better opportunity than this election, an 8%-unemployment economy, and an increasing disenchantment for an ineffectual black president, not to mention the rising bigotry. This lost is a real blow for them. It can be their Midway. But the Dem must keep the pedal to the metal, wipe them out in 2014 and the war will be over for awhile.
|
6 replies, 437 views
Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
| Author | Time | Post | |
| JackN415 | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| Dubster | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| Blue Owl | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| Wellstone ruled | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| Cirque du So-What | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| JackN415 | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| Cirque du So-What | Nov 2012 | #6 |
Response to JackN415 (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:37 PM
Dubster (427 posts)
1. Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team)
Response to JackN415 (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:44 PM
Blue Owl (8,512 posts)
2. Super PAC or Poop Sack?
|
n/t
|
Response to JackN415 (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:54 PM
Wellstone ruled (1,156 posts)
3. Let's see,
|
did anyone figure out how much money Willard and the Rove Brothers might have scammed from these so called Billionaires and the American public? Mark my words,Willard Romney for President (Inc)will fill for bankruptcy shortly. Most of the campaign adds Willard did went threw a Bain entity. Duh!! What
|
Response to JackN415 (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:37 PM
Cirque du So-What (8,902 posts)
4. I take exception to the 'swift boat' comment
|
which I associate with lying sacks of shit like Jerome Corsi. What did *WE* say about RawMoney that was untruthful?
|
Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:58 PM
JackN415 (745 posts)
5. A case of semantics, but your point well taken...
|
I used "swift-boat" to mean "extremely negative attach ad" (without considering the aspect of being truthful or not), and your connotation of the expression is more specific (and interesting) with the aspect of truthfulness.
So, I edited it to "counter attack" |
Response to JackN415 (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:03 PM
Cirque du So-What (8,902 posts)
6. I didn't mean to suggest that you alter your OP
|
but 'swift boat' is a term that I definitely prefer seeing used in reference to the smarmy tactics of the original gang of lying bastids and the repugs who followed in their shoes.
|

