Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:45 PM
ellisonz (26,319 posts)
Handicapping the 2014 Senate ElectionsLast edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:50 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Thirty-three seats are up for election in 2014: Seven Democrats are seeking re-election. Another thirteen Democrats may seek re-election. Five Republicans are seeking re-election. Another eight Republicans may seek re-election. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_senate_elections Safe Democratic: Delaware Illinois Massachusetts Michigan New Jersey Oregon Rhode Island West Virginia Leans Democratic: Alaska Colorado Louisiana Minnesota Montana New Hampshire New Mexico South Dakota Virginia Toss-Up Arkansas North Carolina Leans Republican: Maine Kentucky Georgia Nebraska Safe Republican: Alabama Idaho Kansas Mississippi Oklahoma South Carolina Tennessee Texas Wyoming Notes: I give weight to length of incumbency (for example: Jay Rockefeller in West Virginia isn't going anywhere if he runs), try to consider demographic/political shift, and reserve the right to change my forecast if incumbents retire/pass away or experience major scandal. As you can see, a lot of defense, few true battlegrounds, and limited chances for takeaways.
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| ellisonz | Nov 2012 | OP | |
| democrattotheend | Nov 2012 | #1 | |
| ellisonz | Nov 2012 | #3 | |
| Daniel537 | Nov 2012 | #13 | |
| JustAnotherGen | Nov 2012 | #2 | |
| ellisonz | Nov 2012 | #4 | |
| JustAnotherGen | Nov 2012 | #12 | |
| Hokie | Nov 2012 | #5 | |
| ellisonz | Nov 2012 | #7 | |
| Filibuster Harry | Nov 2012 | #15 | |
| ProudToBeBlueInRhody | Nov 2012 | #17 | |
| RomneyLies | Nov 2012 | #6 | |
| Proud Public Servant | Nov 2012 | #8 | |
| ellisonz | Nov 2012 | #9 | |
| Proud Public Servant | Nov 2012 | #10 | |
| ellisonz | Nov 2012 | #11 | |
| dsc | Nov 2012 | #14 | |
| geek tragedy | Nov 2012 | #16 | |
| dry99 | Nov 2012 | #18 |
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:47 PM
democrattotheend (7,442 posts)
1. Not sure I would call Alaska leaning Democratic
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That one is going to be hard to hold, IMO. Doable, but I say it starts as a toss-up.
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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #1)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:54 PM
ellisonz (26,319 posts)
3. Begich is a fairly strong incumbent...
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...familiar to Alaksa voters, likely to be well-financed, and a divided GOP will probably struggle to produce a credible candidate.
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Response to ellisonz (Reply #3)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:40 PM
Daniel537 (1,051 posts)
13. Is he really that strong?
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I mean he only beat Stevens by 1% in 08, granted Stevens was like a semi-god in Alaska, but its a pretty red state. And his vote for the health care law could become a problem depending on the mood of the electorate in '14, when the law fully kicks in. I'd say right now there's no real way to handicap these races, the economy is a wild card and i have a feeling the GOP isn't done nominating Akin/Mourdock type candidates just yet.
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Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:51 PM
JustAnotherGen (5,600 posts)
2. NJ might not be a sure thing
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Love love love Senator Lautenberg - but he's up there . . . I don't think I've seen a statement that he's definitely running.
Now since Chris Christie's shot at being the Presidential Nominee for Republicans at a FEDERAL Level (meaning outside the state of NJ) - what happens if he runs? I think even without Republican support out of state - he could win. It might actually be a BONUS to him if he's got snark from TEAPublicans. Even in a match up against Booker - he could win. |
Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #2)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:55 PM
ellisonz (26,319 posts)
4. Christie doesn't want to be a Senator, he wants to be President. n/t
Response to ellisonz (Reply #4)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:27 PM
JustAnotherGen (5,600 posts)
12. But CAN he be President?
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He's going to go down in Republican history in much the same way we on the left view Ralph Nader. Nope - he didn't run - but it appears he is their whipping boy on some level on this one.
And he is nothing if not pragmatic underneath alllllllllllllllllllll of that bluster. I know too many liberals and progressives that would vote for him as Senator. . . |
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:55 PM
Hokie (3,479 posts)
5. Al Franken is up in Minnesota
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I think the names being tossed out are Pawlenty, Coleman and Bachmann
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Response to Hokie (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:18 PM
ellisonz (26,319 posts)
7. Only T-Paw is remotely credible...
Response to Hokie (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:27 PM
Filibuster Harry (583 posts)
15. Let Michele run
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She won't run. she'll lose and be out. And maybe we can take her house seat.
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Response to Hokie (Reply #5)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:31 PM
ProudToBeBlueInRhody (10,330 posts)
17. I could see Pawlenty beating him
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But Al has been a great Senator.....and Bachmann? That would be awesome. She'd lose 80-20.
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Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:57 PM
RomneyLies (3,333 posts)
6. Susn Collins will face a bagger challenge in the primaries
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Bank on it.
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Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:29 PM
Proud Public Servant (801 posts)
8. Probably just stating the obvious, but
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First, while I'm all for optimism, let's remember that the midterms of a president's second administration are, historically, the election that leaves the president's party most vulnerable. Add to that the fact that we're structurally more vulnerable here, defending 50% more seats than the GOP, and you'll see that we may face a challenge just holding the Senate.
What's the challenge? Most obviously, blue dog Dems will be vulnerable to challenges from "real" conservatives in red states. That's bad news for Begich, Pryor, Landrieu, Johnson, Hagen, and possibly Baucus (though Montana's less red these days). That's 6 vulnerable seats for us -- enough to shift the Senate, Second, there are states in which we'd be vulnerable if the incumbent Dem retires. Lauterberg will turn 80 in 2014; Rockefeller will turn 77, Harkin 75. Any of their seats could be up for grabs if they don't run. Third, let's face it: the MN GOP really, really wants Al Franken's hide, and his 312-vote margin of victory in 2008 (a wave election) isn't very comforting to remember. And where are our pick-ups? Good question. I don't think any sitting GOP senators are vulnerable to Democrats, Ashley Judd fantasies notwithstanding. I do think 3 are vulnerable to teahadist primary challenges: Collins, Graham, and Alexander. A Collins loss to a teahadist would hand us Maine; with Graham and Alexander, it would depend on how awful the teahadist is. So, we could end up trying to defend 6-10 vulnerable seats while contesting 3 GOP seats if we get lucky. The one thing we can celebrate is that our unexpected pickups this round make this harder on the GOP than they had anticipated. |
Response to Proud Public Servant (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:41 PM
ellisonz (26,319 posts)
9. You're making good points (esp. about GOP primaries)
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I think there's a good chance 4 or 5 out of those 6 end up facing Teahadist challengers (who go down in flames): I think Begich, Landrieu, Johnson (if he runs, he might retire), and Baucus all win because they are strong incumbents. If Johnson doesn't run that's a tossu-up, and Hagen and Pryor are both very vulnerable as Dems in increasingly Red States.
I think Lautenberg is the most likely to retire due to health problems, but short of Hurricane Christie, the GOP cannot win that seat. I think Rockefeller and Harkin are both going to stick it out until health forces them out. I think both are basically Senators-for-Life and in both states a successor would be heavily favored. Point of Order: Franken's margin was only close because the Reform Party Candidate pulled down 15% (Dean Barkley) I think we're going to need really strong candidates to have a shot at any pick-ups. We should try to hold hold hold. P.S. I like my Ashley Judd Fantasies. |
Response to ellisonz (Reply #9)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:56 PM
Proud Public Servant (801 posts)
10. Hey! I like my Ashley Judd fantasies, too!
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I just don't think the fantasy of her taking down McConnell is any more likely to happen than, well, any of my other Ashley Judd fantasies.
I confess I don't have a strong sense of Begich or Johnson, so I have no idea how secure they might be; I hope you're right. Landrieu seems more vulnerable, though; two of her three elections have been very close, and she's such a shill for the energy industry that its hard to imagine rank-and-file enthusiasm for her. If I were the GOP (and I am an old white guy, so I'm halfway there |
Response to Proud Public Servant (Reply #10)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:05 PM
ellisonz (26,319 posts)
11. I think obviously we have to factor...
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...continuing demographic shifts in Louisiana. I don't think Landrieu goes though without an especially strong GOP push.
I think if Ashley Judd were to run, that we should pour money by the ton into defeating McConnell. I remember when Daschale lost, it stung. If Ashley Judd were to run I think it could very easily move from a Lean GOP to a Toss-up. McConnell is not an inspiring candidate. |
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:07 PM
dsc (39,397 posts)
14. I disagree with a few of your placements
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I think Hagan is lean Dem since we have no GOP challenger for her yet. I think that WV is at best lean Dem since Rockefeller is down in polling to his potential challangers. I think that MN is safe dem since Franken is ahead of all his challengers and has met the bar of being a serious Senator.
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Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:30 PM
geek tragedy (25,721 posts)
16. Warner in Virginia is one of the safest seats on that list.
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Last edited Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:30 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Alaska, Louisiana and Arkansas and West Virginia are all very possible victories for the Republicans.
Begich BARELY beat an indicted Ted Stevens in the 2008 wave year. |
Response to ellisonz (Original post)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:39 PM
dry99 (133 posts)
18. If the Democrats in Kentucky can convince Crit Luallen to run
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The turtle is toast!
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