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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:58 AM

PPP's Tom Jensen: Republican polling analysts are 'morons'

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/11/polls-in-the-end-ended-up-making-sense.html

And the polling outfit that had as good a performance as any was one that may have sparked even more pre-election conservative ire than Silver. Public Policy Polling, a small polling firm in North Carolina, conducted a whopping 255 public polls in 2012, and it often seemed like polling skeptics (and even other pollsters) had a bone to pick with each one. This was partly because PPP uses automated dialers. It was also because PPP is a Democratic polling firm. But when the results came in, PPP’s polls had called all 50 states correctly in the presidential race (assuming Florida ultimately goes to Obama), every Senate race, and every important ballot initiative. Its private polling — like the 23 surveys it did of Kentucky legislative races for one client — was similarly on the mark.

When I talked to Tom Jensen, PPP’s director, this morning, he was understandably in the mood to gloat. “These supposed polling experts on the conservative side are morons,” Jensen crowed. “Jay Cost” — the Weekly Standard’s polling expert who’d waged a number-crunching war against PPP — “is an idiot.”


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geek tragedy Nov 2012 OP
Third Doctor Nov 2012 #1
geek tragedy Nov 2012 #2
OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #3
yellowcanine Nov 2012 #4
ThoughtCriminal Nov 2012 #5
Drunken Irishman Nov 2012 #6

Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:28 AM

1. Rasmussen and Gallup need to start taking notes.

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Response to Third Doctor (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:31 AM

2. Rasmussen will not be doing telephone polls in 2016. nt

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:32 AM

3. Some of those right-leaning polling firms like Gravis were exposed for being total frauds. nt.

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Response to geek tragedy (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:36 AM

4. Gallup needs to start over. For the last couple of elections, they have become really unreliable.

They tend to come in a little closer at the end but that in itself is very suspicious. How can they be so far off a week out from the election day results. Polls just don't move that quickly.

And it appears that the problem is with their likely voter model. If they scrapped it and just used registered voters they likely would have a much better result with less volatility.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:15 PM

5. Seemed like their RV demographics were also off

Gallup has sampling problems that were never fixed.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:43 PM

6. Yes. They have been absolutely wrong in '08, '10 and now '12...

How their name endears is beyond me.

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