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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:52 AM

The 4 Words I Would LOVE To Hear Coming From President Obama's Lips

"I am an atheist."

One can dream, can't one?

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Reply The 4 Words I Would LOVE To Hear Coming From President Obama's Lips (Original post)
stopbush Nov 2012 OP
robinlynne Nov 2012 #1
stopbush Nov 2012 #3
robinlynne Nov 2012 #4
Skittles Nov 2012 #2
exboyfil Nov 2012 #5
stopbush Nov 2012 #8
exboyfil Nov 2012 #9
democrattotheend Nov 2012 #15
Ecumenist Nov 2012 #6
NCLefty Nov 2012 #7
FrenchieCat Nov 2012 #10
Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #11
treestar Nov 2012 #12
ratzerman Nov 2012 #13
democrattotheend Nov 2012 #14

Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:53 AM

1. How about "The tax cuts have expired."

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Response to robinlynne (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:55 AM

3. That's 5 words. Separate thread.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:58 AM

4. oops. sorry. It's late. How bout: The tax cuts expired.

(I am an atheist, btw, as are 4 generations of my family..)

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:54 AM

2. ????

I can think of many things I would dream about more than that

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:03 AM

5. Why should you care?

We have a Hindu and Buddhist going into Congress. I think that is a great thing. Faith is an important component in many peoples' lives. Having our representives reflect that is not an issue. If Obama was to make this statement, there could be a chance that he experienced a tragedy which made him question his Christian beliefs. I believe that he is sincere in his statements of faith, and, maybe he might come to becoming an atheist based upon rational thought, but faith and reason can coexist (they just can't coexist with a literal interpretation of the Bible).

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:20 AM

8. I care because of the actions that would flow from such a statement.

Why even entertain thoughts that Obama making such a statement is an indication of some "tragedy" having occurred? As you say, it could be a strongly reasoned intellectual statement, like when most people stop believing in Santa Claus. No one would ever consider that a person gave up their belief in Santa due to some tragedy occurring.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:55 AM

9. What actions?

I mentioned tragedy because that is the route for some to atheism Turing and to a lesser degree Darwin come to mind along with a personal friend who lost a child. A family member was sexually assaulted by the son of a pastor, and her parents would not believe her - that is why she became an atheist.

Obama is a 50 plus year old intelligent person - I am not sure at what age you conclude that you are atheist, but his faith seems very important to him. Most atheists I know came to that conclusion at a younger age teens to early 20s. It would be interesting to know the age that individuals conclude that God does not exist.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:45 PM

15. But it would not be a true statement

If he were an atheist I would want him to be open about that, but I think he is pretty sincere in his faith.

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:10 AM

6. "KARL ROVE IS DEAD" works for me... i'm just sayin'

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:18 AM

7. My SCOTUS nominee is...

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:58 AM

10. You should love hearing those words coming out of your mouth......

because Obama's faith is his, whether you like it or not.

I'm of faith and find what you would love to be a bit disturbing.....
because I don't think his faith has anything to do with you.

I wouldn't love for you to believe in God....
because that is your choice only, period.

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:42 AM

11. Why are his religious beliefs

of any concern to you, or any of your business?

Would his being an atheist change the way he governs in any way? He is who he is, and carries out his role accordingly.

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:15 AM

12. I don't see that as making a big difference

Doesn't matter to me what a President's faith is, so long as he is fair minded to all faiths, and that Obama is.

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:30 AM

13. What about...

"Commerce Secretary Mitt Romney."

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:44 PM

14. But he's not an atheist

If he were an atheist it would be nice to see him have the courage not to hide that. But he is not an atheist...he's a committed Christian and has been for years. I have no reason to believe his faith is not sincere.

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