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Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:42 AM

How Do The "Election Is Already Stolen" CTists Explain Tuesday's results?

Another election, and another gaggle of posts on how the Rs have already stolen the election by rigging voting machines in OH and elsewhere. Here's one from Sunday:

Retired NSA Analyst Proves GOP Is Stealing Elections Part I
By Denis Campbell, LA Progressive
28 October 12

Why is Mitt Romney so confident? In states where the winner will be decided by less than 10%, of the vote he already knows he will win. This is no tinfoil hat conspiracy. It's a math problem. And mathematics showed changes in actual raw voting data that had no statistical correlation other than programmable computer fraud. This computer fraud resulted in votes being flipped from Democrat to Republican in every federal, senatorial, congressional and gubernatorial election since 2008 (thus far) and in the 2012 primary contests from other Republicans to Mitt Romney.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021709613

I know it's November, which is the season for crazy CT threads around here. But, really, do we need to be subjected to this bullshit every goddamned election cycle?

At the least, those who feel the need to post this kind of crap should be required to return and explain why their Chicken Little scenario failed to materialize. I'm sure their explanations would give Karl Rove a run for his money.

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Reply How Do The "Election Is Already Stolen" CTists Explain Tuesday's results? (Original post)
stopbush Nov 2012 OP
flamingdem Nov 2012 #1
villager Nov 2012 #4
gateley Nov 2012 #7
cyclezealot Nov 2012 #9
brush Nov 2012 #13
tblue Nov 2012 #2
stopbush Nov 2012 #3
Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #12
stopbush Nov 2012 #16
KT2000 Nov 2012 #5
UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #6
stopbush Nov 2012 #8
left is right Nov 2012 #14
Awsi Dooger Nov 2012 #10
RobertEarl Nov 2012 #11
pampango Nov 2012 #15
OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #17

Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:50 AM

1. A better question is why you're bringing it up

There were some valid concerns, obviously, considering previous elections.
We still don't know if it was clean, and need to push to make the next one clean/er.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:55 AM

4. +1

n/t

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:02 AM

7. +2

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:07 AM

9. No doubt the Republicans tried to suppress the vote.

Just ask the House Speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives. Sometimes the best of plans backfire on themselves..
. They did not count on the fact pissing off people increased their resolve to vote creating the long lines we witnessed.. And increasing minority turn out.
Those who endured lines of five or six hours are our real civil rights workers.. Not letting these bullies trample our democracy . Would you stand in line 5 hours just to vote.

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Response to cyclezealot (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:58 AM

13. You are quite right

Rove tried but there was too much awareness of his sneaky ass and what he might try. Here's the link to a great story breaking it all down. http://markcrispinmiller.com/2012/11/score-one-at-last-for-the-election-integrity-movement/

It's loaded with links and explains why Rove had the meltdown on Fox on election night over the Ohio counties that he claimed were still to report their vote totals. Counties by the way with Hart Intercivic voting machines (owned by Tagg Romney). The fix was in alright but a whole network of great Americans with integrity worked to stop Turd Blossom. His ass should be in jail, by the way, but maybe Adelson's goons from Vegas will get to him first for blowing 300 million and failing. Romney was in on it, which is why he took so long to concede. He was so shell shocked that he didn't "win" that he had to write a concession speech. He was sure he wouldn't need one, and of course he and Ann had to have their little cry. You could see they had been crying when they took the stage for the concession speech, especially her. Bet she's even harder to live with now.

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:51 AM

2. Okydoky

I think any kind of fraud is possible. I don't trust Republicans. But sometimes they eff up even their own plans. You want to trust them? Be my guest.

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Response to tblue (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:54 AM

3. It's not that I trust Rs. it's that I don't trust CTists.

Big difference.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:46 AM

12. Do you claim there is no such thing as a conspiracy?

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #12)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:10 AM

16. Sure there are conspiracies. There was a conspiracy to kill Lincoln.

The was a conspiracy to kill Anwar Sadat. The facts prove it.

That doesn't mean that every other alleged conspiracy was a conspiracy. For instance, there was no conspiracy to kill JFK. Oswald acted alone. That's what the scientific facts show. Same deal with 9/11. There was no LIHOP or MIHOP on the part of the Bush administration. That's what the facts show.

That doesn't stop the CT crazies from assuming a Rumsfeld-like position of "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:58 AM

5. I do not doubt

there were plans to steal this election - especially in Ohio. This year though, there were many people watching and suits had been filed.

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:59 AM

6. I think the situation of voting machine vulnerabilities and security is real

The fact that President Obama won does not negate the need for a comprehensive overhaul of voting machine security and vote count verification. Now is the time to start the process not wait until 2014 and another election year.

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Response to UCmeNdc (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:03 AM

8. Oh, I agree. But what you're saying is quite different from asserting an election has already been

stolen, which is what these particular CTists were averring.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:07 AM

14. They couldn’t steal big enough

The plan to steal was in effect pre-election but logic and math told them they could only steal by 2 or 3 percent and it wasn’t enough

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:16 AM

10. Seemingly every fifth comment under Nate Silver's posts

Went something like this; "But have you accounted for them stealing the election?"

I was hoping he would pop in one time, and say yes it added .2 to Obama's estimated lead in Delaware, or something appropriately nonsensical.

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:25 AM

11. So, you are in denial?

Bush just loves people like you. Just stop.

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:08 AM

15. Freeperland has the same type of CTists who believe Obama won by rigged voting machines and

voter suppression tactics. They don't have a shred of evidence of course. I assume that Fox News makes up 'evidence' of such Democratic tactics and freepers blindly buy into it. I suppose it's easier to believe the other side is cheating than it is to admit that most people don't buy the BS that your side is selling.

BTW, kudos to DUers who have the ability to lurk in Freeperland and report back here.

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Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:19 AM

17. Whatever. If you don't like the subject lines, don't read the posts. Simple, no? nt.

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