Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

awake

(3,226 posts)
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 01:57 PM Aug 2016

"Police Unions Demand Extra Pay For Accountability And Transparency"

"Police chiefs, officers and citizens across the country have gone on record in support of policy changes in response to controversial instances of police exercising extreme, often deadly force.

But police unions, which serve as mouthpieces for many rank-and-file officers, are responding by holding up the push for reform. Over the past few months, unions in a number of cities have stated that the only way they’ll accept change is if they get something in return.

In some cases, unions have taken a particularly hard-nosed approach to bargaining, seeking financial concessions from taxpayers in exchange for measures designed to ensure that officers are doing their jobs effectively and appropriately.

Earlier this month in Cincinnati, a local Fraternal Order of Police attorney sent a “cease and desist” letter to the city, saying that officers should only use body cameras if the city was willing to pay them more...."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/police-unions-more-money-body-cameras_us_57bc99ade4b00d9c3a1a6383?section=&

In my mind this is a case were unions are not on our side, this sort of stand in an election year does not help our cause and could be a distraction. (then again maybe many of the members want Trump to win?)

5 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
"Police Unions Demand Extra Pay For Accountability And Transparency" (Original Post) awake Aug 2016 OP
What a bunch of malarkey True Dough Aug 2016 #1
I have to say that it seems people don't get unions at all. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #2
can you name any other union whose purpose is to shelter and protect law breaking msongs Aug 2016 #4
Yes. Most of them. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #5
Nothing will ever change... chollybocker Aug 2016 #3

True Dough

(17,294 posts)
1. What a bunch of malarkey
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 02:16 PM
Aug 2016

Accountability should have been built into the job several decades ago. There shouldn't be one extra cent spent on
"buying" ethical behavior from police. Get rid of the bad apples. That's all.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
2. I have to say that it seems people don't get unions at all.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 02:25 PM
Aug 2016

"In my mind this is a case were unions are not on our side"

Are you in law enforcement? There job is to lobby for their members. So when you say "on our side" I assume you are a member of law enforcement. This is the same tactic people on the right use to go after all unions. Teachers, mechanical, trade, etc.

msongs

(67,381 posts)
4. can you name any other union whose purpose is to shelter and protect law breaking
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 03:32 PM
Aug 2016

employees? unions have their good points and their bad, just like every other organization. criticizing them is not always "the same tactic people on the right use'.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. Yes. Most of them.
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 03:37 PM
Aug 2016

They nor I would word it like you do. Most unions absolutely stand up for their members when they run into trouble.

This is the tactic of the right. There is no question about that in my mind. Please look at the sentence I highlighted above. It does not state what you are now stating with respect to my original claim.

chollybocker

(3,687 posts)
3. Nothing will ever change...
Thu Aug 25, 2016, 02:39 PM
Aug 2016

...until cop accountability is taken away from cops, ex-cops, and cop unions, and given to independent citizen's boards within the communities. Then, REDUCE cop's pay accordingly for having less secretive internal meetings to attend.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»"Police Unions Demand Ext...