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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:05 PM

Best click ever!!

Perhaps the best time I have had after staying up until 6am over here to watch Mitt lose.
Truly.
http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

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Reply Best click ever!! (Original post)
dvhughes Nov 2012 OP
DocMac Nov 2012 #1
Ter Nov 2012 #2
DocMac Nov 2012 #4
aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #3
Ter Nov 2012 #6
aaaaaa5a Nov 2012 #8
catbyte Nov 2012 #5
johnnyrocket Nov 2012 #7

Response to dvhughes (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:31 PM

1. They think this country is theirs

And only theirs.

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Response to DocMac (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 08:55 PM

2. They?

 

n/t

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Response to Ter (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:39 PM

4. The people in those pics at that link.

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Response to dvhughes (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:28 PM

3. This is how historic the win was.

From the article.


The 3.14% margin of victory is significantly smaller than the 7.27% Obama recorded four years ago. However it will surpass President Bush's popular vote margin over John Kerry in his reelection campaign from 2004.

Despite the perceived closeness of this particular race Obama's 3.14% margin of victory, if it should wind up as such, would surpass the margin obtained by George Bush in both 2004 and 2000 (when he lost the popular vote to Al Gore), Jimmy Carter's from 1976, Richard Nixon's from 1968, and John Kennedy's from 1960.

Obama is the first President since Ronald Reagan in 1984 to win a majority of the popular vote in consecutive elections and only the third Presidential candidate to do so since Franklin Roosevelt.

Since 1824, the year when official popular vote totals were tabulated for the first time, only seven Presidents have won a majority in consecutive elections; Obama, Reagan, Eisenhower, FDR, McKinley, Grant, and Jackson.


Barack Obama is a historic President in many ways. He is officially one of the most popular Presidents in American history.

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Response to aaaaaa5a (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:46 PM

6. True

 

But isn't it very rare for an incumbent to win in a closer election than his first? For example, Reagan, Clinton, and Bush all won more Electoral Votes and a wider percentage than in their first election (1980, 1992, and 2004). Poppy Bush didn't win as much in 1992 as he did in 1988, but he doesn't count because he lost his reelection.

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Response to Ter (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:14 PM

8. True but...



Clinton was in a 3 way race. This allowed him to carry states he would not have won in a traditional 2 way race. Plus, Clinton failed to get 50% of the vote in both elections (1992, 1996). For these reasons I think it makes Obama's wins much more impressive.



Bush didn't win the popular vote in 2000. So for an incumbent President, he had an incredibly low threshold to beat for his second Presidential run. He also did not get to 300 electoral votes in either Presidential wins.

When Obama's final vote tally is figured, he will have bested Bush's 2004 victory in terms of % of popular vote, % of vote margin vs his opponent, and he would have killed him in the electoral college. Bush's 2 wins are among the weakest in American history.



So we have Clinton, who won the Presidency twice, but never got 50% of the popular vote in either election. And we have Bush, who lost the popular vote in one election and failed to get close to 300 electoral votes in both Presidential wins.

Barack Obama beats these two hands down.


As for Reagan, his blowout win in 1984 is very impressive. (Don't we all wish we could run against Mondale/Ferraro, one of the weakest tickets in Presidential history.) However, people often forget Reagan won in 1980 while getting only 51% of the vote. 49% of the public voted against Reagan on election day.

Reagan also benefited from a 3rd party candidate in 1980. John Anderson ran to the left of Jimmie Carter and took about 6-7% of the vote. Without Anderson, in a traditional 2 candidate race, the Carter/Reagan matchup likely finishes pretty close to the Kerry/Bush race outcome. Reagan probably beats Carter in the 51-48% range.


Since 1900, only FDR, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan and Barack Obama have been elected to 2 terms as President while winning 50% of the vote both times. That's dominate. In fact this kind of Presidential popularity hasn't been duplicated in nearly 30 years! Barack Obama is going to be remembered among the great Presidents in American history.

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Response to dvhughes (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:44 PM

5. Not to worry. That little kid in the tie will probably be one of us by the

time he's a Freshman in college, just like the conservative kid that turned when his brain switched on. He will probably get laid more too, then there will be no turning back, LOL. I never, ever gave a R the time of day, even in college.

All the rest of those glum baggers can just wallow in it. We should tell them the same thing they told us in 2004, "You lost. Get over it."

Payback's a bitch.

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Response to dvhughes (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:51 PM

7. Wow, maybe they could find another country without health care laws....

....oh, I don't know...maybe they'd be happy in: Africa!


(Countries with universal health care)



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