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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:24 PM

Georgia will go blue by 2016 or 2020. The fastest growing population in Georgia is the

African American population and Dems have been getting closer over the last decade, we are in striking distance now.

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Reply Georgia will go blue by 2016 or 2020. The fastest growing population in Georgia is the (Original post)
JRLeft Nov 2012 OP
NewJeffCT Nov 2012 #1
gademocrat7 Nov 2012 #2
JRLeft Nov 2012 #3
RebelOne Nov 2012 #26
Robbins Nov 2012 #4
JRLeft Nov 2012 #6
Robbins Nov 2012 #11
JRLeft Nov 2012 #12
adieu Nov 2012 #5
JRLeft Nov 2012 #7
AndyTiedye Nov 2012 #8
Stevepol Nov 2012 #28
calico1 Nov 2012 #9
JRLeft Nov 2012 #10
trishtrash Nov 2012 #13
GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #16
trishtrash Nov 2012 #21
JRLeft Nov 2012 #22
november3rd Nov 2012 #14
JRLeft Nov 2012 #15
yellowcanine Nov 2012 #17
JRLeft Nov 2012 #18
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #19
JRLeft Nov 2012 #20
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #23
democrattotheend Nov 2012 #24
JRLeft Nov 2012 #25
groundloop Nov 2012 #27
Glitterati Nov 2012 #29
JRLeft Nov 2012 #30
JRLeft Feb 2013 #31

Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:25 PM

1. Just having GA as a swing state

would mean Republics will have to spend resources there when they had not previously had to do that.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:30 PM

2. I hope so.

I would love to see us go blue from the Governor's office, state houses and on a Federal level in my lifetime.

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Response to gademocrat7 (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:32 PM

3. Georgia repukes will be overwhelmed by blacks in about 30 years.

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Response to gademocrat7 (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:24 PM

26. I hope so too, but I seriously doubt it.

The county I live in is so totally red that I do not vote in local elections because there are no Democrats on the ballot.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:37 PM

4. Georgia

Out of the Mccain States this was weakest one for Romney and strongest one for Obama.

Romney won It 53 to 45.

In 2016 a white Democrat that can get out the Black vote could be competive here.

A white candiate who can Increase the white vote by a few points while getting the strong support for Minoritys like Obama will
make It very hard for republicans In 2016.

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Response to Robbins (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:40 PM

6. do you think Hillary, Kirsten can win in Georgia. Hillary could get out the black

vote for sure.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:06 PM

11. Yep

Republicans need to be terrified on thought of Hillary running In 2016.She has favorabilty rating In ealry 60's.In some areas of country some who due to rasicm wouldn't vote for Obama could vote for her.Especilly with Bill Clinton campaging.He won Georgia In 1992
44 to 43 and lost It In 1996 47 to 46.And due to all their lies about Obama he turned to Clinton to help win and now Bill has been
completly rehibilated with a near 70 percent favorabilty rating.And just Imagne what the black vote could mean If a Democrat
actully contests Georgia.Obama got 47 percent In 2008 and 45 percent In 2012 and he didn't spend much time In state.

Missouri,Georgia,Louisiana,possibly Texas could be better for Hillary In 2016 than they were for Obama.

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Response to Robbins (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:11 PM

12. Whoever runs needs Obama's campaign team.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:38 PM

5. The blue tide is inescapable

As more and more states are being defined by their major urban areas, the blue-tint will surely come eventually. It's impossible to not be blue in an urban environment. It's there that one sees the daily benefits of a working government. It's there that one sees blacks and whites and latinos and asians working together for the communal betterment. It's there that one sees and experiences the wonders of different ethnic cultures.

The election outcome bears this out. Urban areas were all predominantly blue. Rural and suburbs were red, to a slightly less degree. It's easy to hate n****rs when you rarely see one. It's harder when they're your co-workers, your bosses, your customers, your sales rep. When you take all the different colors of the people in a major urban area and mix it up, it turns blue.

And in the United States, it will inexorably towards blue as the population increases with no more increase in available land. True, there's still 75% of the land that's fairly remote (look at Wyoming or Montana). But even that is become less remote due to better communication from readily available mobile phones and other mobile devices.

Florida will turn blue, as will Texas in the next 16 years. And the GOP will die its glorious death clutching to its last remnants of rednecks and the ignorant.

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Response to adieu (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:43 PM

7. Call me crazy but I see Ohio eventually becoming solidly red due to the demodraphic shift in the

state.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:59 PM

8. Diebold Republican Electing Machinez Will Keep Georgia Red No Matter What

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Response to AndyTiedye (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:45 PM

28. Georgia is probably already blue

but the Diebold machines are keeping the lid on. Cleland and Barnes won in 02 but for the machines.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:01 PM

9. The African Americans in GA

came out in droves to vote. I remember hearing that on the news, that even though it wasn't in play they were very fired up.

I also read that the Latino population is increasing there.

It could be in play next election.

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Response to calico1 (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:03 PM

10. This what I see too.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:13 PM

13. Yes, definitely hope for Georgia

I live in one of the "blue islands" in the very red stream of Georgia, yet the tide is definitely turning. However, we still have Paul Broun (the rep. who thinks the earth is 9,000 years old and is on the House science committee), Sen. Saxby Chambliss, and the most regressive state government you could imagine. Although I am enjoying the fix that our governor finds himself in, having done nothing to put into place the Obamacare insurance exchange, which means that the federal government will do it (irony!).

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Response to trishtrash (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:24 PM

16. I live on the South Carolina side of the border.

I get my TV from Augusta, and had to endure all the anti-John Barrow commercials. Toward the end, they were running two and three in a row. They thought they could get rid of this guy through redistricting, and by pouring millions of dollars into smear ads. It didn't work. And, Barrow won by a decent margin, too. I'm not crazy about the guy, but his opponent was HORRIBLE. Looking from the outside, I think you are right about the tide turning in your state. Hopefully, it will be soon.

Our idiot governor is in the same fix regarding the Affordable Care Act. It's even worse for her, because she also has the Dept. of Revenue hacking hanging over her. I am having fun watching her squirm.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:40 PM

21. John Barrow ...

He used to represent my district until he was gerrymandered by the repubs. into an incrediblly contorted, ridiculous district. He is the bluest of the blue dogs, which he has to be to survive, but at least he sits on the correct side of the aisle.

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Response to trishtrash (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:43 PM

22. We have to put up with blue dogs because there are far too many idiots in America so I welcome him.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:19 PM

14. Yeah, But

Looking at the WSJ map, I can't see why Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, not to mention South Carolina, aren't already Big Blue states.

http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=1895151248265223254#editor/target=post;postID=773985811876015883

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Response to november3rd (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:24 PM

15. Black voters do not turn out all of the time. Big problem.

If they become reliable voters, those states will end up swing states in the future.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:25 PM

17. North Carolina will continue to be in play and even SC is a good possibility by 2020.

Demographics are not on the Republican side right now. Their strongest demographic is dying out. and the strongest Democratic demographic is just coming of voting age. Also Millennials (born in 1980s and 1990s) have now voted heavily Democratic in 3 Presidential elections now. Most voters do not change after voting the same way in three Presidential elections.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:31 PM

18. True, it is important we take care of our coalition of everyone.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:36 PM

19. Arizona too.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:40 PM

20. Yes, and Arizona may have been stolen this year.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:51 PM

23. I firmly believe Obama could have won there this year if he had decided to go after it.

He didn't need AZ so I can hardly blame him for not doing it; it would have been a waste.

But if he had, he could definitely have given Romney a run for his money there.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:00 PM

24. Depends who the nominee is

I think African Americans came out/voted for Obama at a rate slightly higher than a white Democrat would get. So that has to be factored in in future races.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:01 PM

25. Obama can help get out the vote.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:39 PM

27. Are there any links or supporting information available?

I'd like to read more on this, as I'm in one of the reddest counties in Georgia. From my limited perspective I don't see Georgia turning blue anytime soon, please prove me wrong.

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Response to groundloop (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:53 PM

29. It's not going to happen

We don't even have a Democratic party in Georgia; the ones with the titles are too damned busy fighting with each other to field candidates.

The Republicans took control of Georgia in 2000 after 128 years of Democratic control. You can bet your bottom dollar they're not giving up power any time soon.

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Response to JRLeft (Original post)

Sat Feb 2, 2013, 02:53 PM

31. I thought I would kick this since a repuke said it would be blue in 10 years

and dems said 4 years on Melissa Harris-Perry's show.

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