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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:20 AM

I'm going to say it ...

This election cycle was wonderful for the Nation and the Democratic party.

But listening to boehner's rejection of a Democratic Mandate exposes a/the tactical flaw of the DNC ... the faiure to communicate the need for Democrats to take the House. Boenher is saying the fact that the gop held the House is evidence that the American people do not want taxes to be raised on the wealthy ... despite the fact that a majority have said exactly that.

If the DNC had vocally attacked gop obstruction and framed a Democratic House as the cure; we would be having a very different conversation over the next 4 years.

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1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 OP
Firebirds01 Nov 2012 #1
polichick Nov 2012 #12
Indydem Nov 2012 #2
IDoMath Nov 2012 #6
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #3
GETTINGTIRED Nov 2012 #4
IDoMath Nov 2012 #5
Xyzse Nov 2012 #7
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #8
november3rd Nov 2012 #9
1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #10
sinkingfeeling Nov 2012 #11

Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:23 AM

1. They held the house

 

because of gerrymandering. Boehner ran unopposed in the race, that is how bad the districts are.

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Response to Firebirds01 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:58 PM

12. Exactly - a situation where politicians choose the voters instead of...

...voters choosing the politicians.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:23 AM

2. The fact of the matter is, that we have a problem.

On a district by district level, where GOP strongholds are sectored off from democratic contenders, it may be a while before we are able to recapture the house.

When the GOP made sweeping state house and governor captures in 2010, they got to handle redistricting, and that has hurt a lot of Democratic candidates. And I'm not sure how we can overcome that until the 2020 elections and redistricting.

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Response to Indydem (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:29 AM

6. The lines can't shift but people can

 

Here in Texas, CD23 turned blue and the population continues to change from the south and west. Lamar Smith is next!

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:25 AM

3. to hell with boner

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:27 AM

4. True so...

The thing to do now is put a big fat magnifying focus on every jobs bill and every bill proposed and make sure the American people know about it and get them to follow how their representatives intend to vote on it....stop letting this obstruction ....hide in the weeds go unnoticed and unchecked....

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:27 AM

5. That should be the theme for 2014

 

I'm not sure you're right. I am amazed at the outcomes from this election - especially the ballot initiatives. It appears to me that the dems did a strategic job of attacking the right and putting forth a positive message. I think if they had focused too much on republican obstructionism they would have looked like whiners and it would have backfired.

2012 has set a new stage. I'm starting to see the last 50 years in a new light of history. Starting with the Dems adoption of civil rights and the dixiecrat revolt - those actions are just now truly taking hold while the bigoted and the privileged are left reeling wondering what happened.

With that new stage, we can hammer the Republicans on obstructionism starting today and we need to keep hammering them on it until they either stop or lose in 2014. They are now in a position to look like whiners and they will reap the rewards of looking like spoiled brats.

If we start on that now, then 2015-2016 could be two very productive, very progressive years.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:58 AM

7. I still say change the vectors of the debate

They are still going on about extending the Bush tax cuts.

Change it to, we are replacing the Bush tax cuts to Obama tax cuts, and here is our proposal:

Let that damn thing expire already.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:04 PM

8. You could have made the House a bigger priority than the White House in terms of messaging

And you would have ended with much the same House result. They gerrymandered it to hell and back,

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:05 PM

9. He then hastened out of the room, ignoring shouted questions.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:42 PM

10. More magical; but ...

disproven, thinking.

Instead of allowing the top rates to go up, which Republicans say would harm the economy, Mr. Boehner said Washington should end some deductions and loopholes to raise revenues. The economic growth that would result from a significant deficit reduction compromise would bring in additional revenues as well, he said.


Deficit reduction WILL NOT promote economic growth ... especially when the reductions are borne by the working class and/or a reduction in government spending.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:52 PM

11. Ah, but Mr. Boehner is incorrect. The American people heard President Obama tell them

that he will raise taxes a 'small amount' on the wealthy, and they re-elected him.

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