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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:58 AM

2008 - 2012 voting comparison

Last edited Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:30 AM - Edit history (1)

2012 currently available (Should be over 4 million more each for Obama & Rmoney with Florida votes)
60,662,601 -- Obama
57,821,399 -- Rmoney
1,879,748 -- Others
120,039,056 -- Total

2008
69,498,215 -- Obama
59,948,240 -- McLame
1,947,535 -- Others
131,393,990 -- Total

2004
59,028,444 -- Kerry
62,040,610 -- Bush
1,198,499 -- Other
122,267,553 -- Total


Jansing on MSNBC was reporting that Rmoney received fewer votes than McLame. Decided to check and report. She failed to report that Florida votes not included. What a twit.

The cast on Jansing generally are all twits. That Maria Bartiromo is a doom and gloom witch.

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Reply 2008 - 2012 voting comparison (Original post)
LiberalFighter Nov 2012 OP
Old and In the Way Nov 2012 #1
LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #4
HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #5
cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #11
leveymg Nov 2012 #2
WI_DEM Nov 2012 #3
cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #6
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #7
LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #8
cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #10
LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #13
alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #12
outsideworld Nov 2012 #16
democrattotheend Nov 2012 #9
former9thward Nov 2012 #14
former9thward Nov 2012 #15

Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:19 AM

1. I'm curious as to what happened to 9MM 2008 Obama voters

While I'm not surprised that his totals are down from 2008, I can't believe he lost 15% of his total. They didn't go to Mitt or a 3rd Party. That delta jumps out at me....can anyone explain, demographically, where they went? It may be that the economy was so bad in 2008 that almost 10MM people decided to vote, but, with the economy improving, they went back to their apolitical/apathetic ways?

PS - you might want to edit the 2004 results - you have it as 2008.

On edit, I missed your note that there may be upwards of 8MM still to be added to the final results....never mind.

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Response to Old and In the Way (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:30 AM

4. Thanks for the edit note

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Response to Old and In the Way (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:53 AM

5. He lost independant voters from 2008.

But gained totals in AAs, Latinos, and I suspect women. I don't know breakdown of where 2008 Obama Independants went... but I guess some Romney, some small party, and some didn't vote.

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Response to Old and In the Way (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:36 PM

11. They did not vote.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:23 AM

2. Maria Bartiromo is not a newscaster or journalist. She's a Wall Street shill who should be confined

to CNBC regurgitating hot stock tips and RW nostrum she picked up like some venereal disease on the trading floor of the NYSE. Put her back in her gold-plated dancing cage.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:23 AM

3. there are still millions of votes to be added for 2012

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:55 AM

6. Those numbers include Florida

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:57 AM

7. Where do you get that these numbers don't include Florida?

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:15 PM

8. Wiki and other sources

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Say that results have not been included

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:35 PM

10. I think the question was why you assume they don't include Florida.

The Florida vote is piled into the popular vote total as it is reported. They don't wait for a state to be called to include the counted votes.

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Response to cthulu2016 (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:12 PM

13. Then show me a source that has it all compiled state by state with the votes.

Everything else has it not included because they Florida has not called it yet. They don't include votes for a state until it is called otherwise they would be changing it hour by hour, minute by minute. Which isn't being done.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:47 PM

12. Let's try it this way:prove to me that the 2012 total numbers don't include Florida

Because I think you're wrong about that.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:58 PM

16. they actually do include florida and wiki is not the best source

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:31 PM

9. Was turnout lower this year?

Or are these numbers going to grow because not all votes have been counted?

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:25 PM

14. It is estimated turnout was 11% lower this year.

All you have to do is look at various state totals from 2008 and you will see 2012 does not match that total.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:26 PM

15. The Florida vote is included.

Only the provisional ballots are not included. There are a few hundred thousand of those. Not enough to change the overall totals much.

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