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Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:13 AM

Politico: Romneyworld Reckoning Begins

I ESPECIALLY loved this part. They really don't get it. They think all African-Americans and people under 55 are lazy. Because that's what their radio and their news tells them.

But it ain't true.

And now they finally see it. And it scares the hell out of them.

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“We didn’t think they’d turn out more of their base vote than they did in 2008, but they smoked us,” said one Romney operative. “It’s unbelievable that that they turned out more from the African-American community than in 2008. Somehow they got ‘em to vote.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83549.html#ixzz2BbZF4I1M

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"Somehow"...yeah, the Civil Rights Act. Watching old White guys use code words and say horrible, vile things for four years. Did they really think the Obama coalition would forget? That we were just going to let that pass by?

After all the times this President has had our backs, there was no way we were not going to have his. That's what they don't get- they can't get it.

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Reply Politico: Romneyworld Reckoning Begins (Original post)
CTDem44 Nov 2012 OP
Kahuna Nov 2012 #1
Angry Dragon Nov 2012 #2
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2012 #3
nc4bo Nov 2012 #4
BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #10
haikugal Nov 2012 #18
brewens Nov 2012 #5
Amonester Nov 2012 #6
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #12
Amonester Nov 2012 #14
ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #26
Cha Nov 2012 #7
Mr.Turnip Nov 2012 #9
BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #11
Cha Nov 2012 #13
BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #19
Cha Nov 2012 #20
NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #23
Cha Nov 2012 #24
BouzoukiKing Nov 2012 #27
yellowcanine Nov 2012 #35
Cha Nov 2012 #37
yellowcanine Nov 2012 #39
Cha Nov 2012 #40
Cha Nov 2012 #8
tomm2thumbs Nov 2012 #15
dchill Nov 2012 #16
OmahaBlueDog Nov 2012 #17
MyOwnPeace Nov 2012 #31
Tutonic Nov 2012 #21
coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #22
smorkingapple Nov 2012 #25
DCKit Nov 2012 #28
Arkana Nov 2012 #29
faithfulcitizen Nov 2012 #41
Jennicut Nov 2012 #30
yellowcanine Nov 2012 #32
OmahaBlueDog Nov 2012 #33
lunatica Nov 2012 #34
and-justice-for-all Nov 2012 #36
forestpath Nov 2012 #38

Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:18 AM

1. I agree with your comments 100%. Welcome to DU.

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:19 AM

2. What is the game that you will never find in a republican home??



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CLUE

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:20 AM

3. Romney World

Is that next door to Wallyworld?

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:20 AM

4. Dear Romney operative: You didn't get smoked, you got STOMPED

and your entire fucked up party of bottomfeeding, white-pride racist shitbags along with your bible humping hypocrites and Fox News morons got exactly what you deserved. And, if your heads weren't so far up your own backsides stroking your own genius, you'd have seen this stomping coming from 10,000 miles away.

Fuck you and yours.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:47 AM

10. Nice typo.

I think...

But I like humping better than thumping there, anyhow.

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Response to BouzoukiKing (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:48 AM

18. Humping is perfect!

It's descriptive of what they do in a new way...bible humpers...love it!

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:21 AM

5. Not "they". It's you that got 'em to vote! All the racist attack, and voter suppression turned out

the vote. Look at what black people watched you do for four years to a black President. Even if the man didn't do everything they wanted they weren't going to sit back and let you get away with it!

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:37 AM

6. Don't try to fix stupid.

Let them revel in it (for decades to come)!

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Response to Amonester (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:58 AM

12. +1 nt

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Response to ProudProgressiveNow (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:17 AM

14. All Fired Up And Ready To Go! :)

Together, we will kill Global Warming. With or without them.

We absolutely have to. It's our last chance.

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Response to Amonester (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:38 AM

26. The time is now!!!! nt

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:12 AM

7. That article is chock full of nuggets.. they "thought they had the women Vote"..

Really?

Romney supporters point to a series of brash statements made by advisers that seem out of touch with reality in retrospect. Inside the Beltway, Republicans trained their fire on senior Romney advisers like Ed Gillespie and political director Rich Beeson for appearances on last weekend’s Sunday shows. Gillespie said the electoral map was expanding, and Beeson predicted a 300 electoral vote win for Romney.


They were shocked shocked I tell ya that Pres Obama was re-elected.. no wonder Rove went mad on live tv..fox of course. They underestimate our African American Community..dissing them as they dissed our Hispanic people. And, yet, they expected to win!

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Response to Cha (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:27 AM

9. Wow, Romney's campaign team sucked. Like worse than McCains team and they picked Sarah Palin.

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Response to Cha (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:49 AM

11. They underestimated pretty much *everybody*. Except...

...I'm sad to say, older white males.

Like me.

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Response to BouzoukiKing (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:01 AM

13. Be interesting to see what the % was for White Males for

Pres Obama.

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Response to Cha (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:57 AM

19. It was low.

I can't dredge up the site where I saw it, but it was somewhere around 35-40% as I recall.

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Response to BouzoukiKing (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:18 AM

20. Thanks BouzoukiKing.. It sounds like there were

a lot of White males who were disappointed with the results, Wed Night.

How ironic that they have been running America for so long and are TPTB but, they didn't take Over the White House this time! We so dodged a bullet.

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Response to Cha (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:22 AM

23. If Repubs can't see the significance of a candidate being able to win

an election (with solid electoral and popular vote margins) without coming close to winning white males, they are doomed.

Lucky for us, I think, somehow, they really don't get it.

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 05:43 AM

24. Have you seen Jon Stewart's take on Fox's Election night Bubble?

It highlights what you wrote. And, it's really funny!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101777192

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Response to Cha (Reply #24)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 11:10 AM

27. That was a great segment.

But really, I think the best thing so far to come from any of our reality-based TV people, was Rachel Maddow's day-after-the-election rant about what wasn't going to happen, and what was.

Damn, she's the best I've ever seen. I got hooked on her during her radio show, and she just keeps getting better...

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Response to Cha (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:59 AM

35. Why any candidate would ever hire Ed Gillespie again is beyond me.

Right up to the time the initial returns were coming in Tuesday night he was still confidently predicting victory. By that time he had to have seen the exit polls released at 5 pm and known that Romney was in trouble in every last one of the swing states, including NC, which remained too close to call well into the night before finally becoming the only swing state to land in the Romney column. That and simply refusing to believe the majority of polls and statistical models showing Obama likely to win significantly more than 270 EVs in favor of wishful thinking partisan polls and pundits - he also had to have internal polls showing that Romney was likely going to lose. At that point at the least one should be preparing the candidate and the supporters for the possibility of a loss - this could have avoided the very messy situation later in the night with the delayed concession call which frankly will be remembered as a less than classy move on Romney's part, even though they are now trying to rewrite history and suggest that Romney made a gutsy call to concede instead of dragging out the process with challenges in Ohio, Virginia, and Florida. But that is BS because by that time they all knew that the numbers were clearly against them. To his credit when Romney finally did make his concession speech it was gracious but it was at least 2 hours late. The call for Obama by the networks came at 10:13 pm EST. Romney's concession speech came around 1 am EST. The only person questioning the Ohio call was Karl Rove and it was him against all of the networks. I also don't accept the notion that Romney had to write his concession speech. Okay did that mean he couldn't make a call to Obama. And he had enough indicators earlier in the evening to know he had better have a concession speech ready. Most of his concession speech was clearly a minor rewrite of the acceptance speech anyway - keep the thank yous, remove the looking to the future talk, and add a small section on working with the winner. That should have taken all of five minutes.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #35)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:33 PM

37. Well, I don't know if we'll ever know what went on with the romney camp at the

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end..unless someone secretly taped them!

Your post made curious though about whether romney called Pres Obama to concede? Or just the concession speech? I think he didn't write one. Those incompetent bozos actually thought they would win. What they had Ready..was their Transition Team.

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Response to Cha (Reply #37)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:37 PM

39. He called Obama. He said so and so did Obama.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #39)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:05 PM

40. Thanks, yellowcanine!

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:19 AM

8. Btw, Welcome to DU, CTDem44!

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:19 AM

15. they must've really shaken a stick at 'em or something, eh?


I mean how ridiculous are these Republican idiots -- you can't make this stuff up!

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:45 AM

16. K & R.

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:46 AM

17. You hit the nail with "their radio and their news."

I'll admit that their confidence had me wondering if they knew something we didn't, or if the fix was simply in. When Ohio was called, I saw the number of votes outstanding and thought they could make it up....but in the end, Political Scientists like Nate Silver and pollsters like PPP were right -- again. Rasmussen was wrong; FAUX was wrong; Dick Morris was wrong. Conservatives have become so obsessed with the notion of a "liberal media" that they now live strictly in the FAUX News universe. That universe is increasingly separated from reality.

You mentioned, "watching old White guys use code words and say horrible, vile things for four years." I'm not saying race is not part of the equation with their treatment of Obama (it certainly is), but I'll remind you that from day 1 in 1993, they said vile, hateful things about the Clintons. They led a multi-million dollar fishing expedition to find evidence that the Clintons had been involved in financial malfeasance with regard to Whitewater, and found nothing more than the fact that Bill Clinton had a mistress and lied about it. Conservatives continually spewed crazy conspiracy theories about the Clintons-- they had Vince Foster whacked; they were smuggling billions of dollars worth of drugs into the US; they were going to lead the charge to one world government.

Obama, Plouffe & Axelrod mastered the two key elements. One was raising lots of money in small increments (the lesson learned from Howard Dean in 2004). The second was mobilizing. Romney supporters were enthusiastic, and put up a helluva lot of yard signs, but ultimately underestimated support for Obama. I think they also vastly underestimated the degree to which they've alienated the Latino community, and the degree to which they decided to express their displeasure at the polls.

Great post. Thanks!

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 12:02 AM

31. And your post

is a great one, too!

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:19 AM

21. The AA vote in Ohio in all likelihood was greater than 15%. Remember

Karl Rove imploding on FOX News late Tuesday night? HIs lying ass could not believe that after shaving off three or five percent of the black vote in predominantly black precincts, Romney still got beat. Shaving off five percent could be done without causing great alarm. The disconnect likely occurred because he assumed that the AA vote would be 10-11 percent and not 15 or 18 percent. The "genius" had been outwitted. Likely the same situation in Florida. They used a 2008 model to shave points off of a 2012 year and came up short. Thus Karl became unhinged as he began to realize that he something terribly wrong had occurred and that his plan to steal Ohio had backfired. My thoughts only.

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:36 AM

22. Money quote from the Politico article:

 

"Simply put — many GOPers said that when the dust settles, the verdict will be this was an election that Romney should have won."

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Should've, Would've, Could've - the three most popular phrases you'll hear in Vegas.




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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 06:54 AM

25. Shoulda, woulda, coulda ain't no gooda....

“You know intellectually I’ve felt we’re going to win this and have felt that for some time, but emotionally just getting off the plane and seeing those people standing there – we didn’t tell them we were coming, we didn’t notify them when we’d arrive, just seeing people there cheering as they were – connected emotionally with me,” he told reporters on the flight from Pittsburgh to Boston before polls closed. “I not only think we’re going to win intellectually, I feel it as well.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/83549_Page3.html#ixzz2BdCVeXkY


Poor guy, no wonder he looked so devastated during his concession. Cat actually thought he was gonna win despite all evidence to the contrary.

LMAO



FUCK EM!!!!!

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:41 PM

28. This white (gay) guy is 50 this year. Not looking forward to Romney/Ryan.

 

They're delusional.

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:51 PM

29. I think this election scared the hell out of the GOP.

They've been forced to confront cold, hard reality after sealing themselves in their fact-resistant bubbles for months.

And now they realize that 2008 was not a fluke. The electorate is changing and if they do not change with it they will die a long, slow death as a national party.

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Response to Arkana (Reply #29)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:33 PM

41. I know, and I love it! I think they got hit over the head by the new silent majority!

and now we have spoken!

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 12:51 PM

30. Clueless after poll after poll told them they were losing swing states

They relied on internal polling similar to Rasmussen's. But you cannot remake what people are naturally showing up as in the majority of polls. More self identified Dems was correct all along. Idiots.

Demos hurt them and we knew that for the last two years or more.

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:41 AM

32. "Somehow they got ‘em to vote.” Yes, somehow in spite of all the Republican voter suppression

strategies.....an maybe a little bit BECAUSE OF those strategies, suckers.

This may go down as one of the greatest political miscalculations by a political party in the U.S since 1948. At least in 1948 the Republicans had some cover with nearly all of the media calling it for Dewey. But this year the state polling was showing that a fairly comfortable Obama win was possible, maybe even likely. But the Republicans simply refused to believe the arithmetic. For all of the Republican talk about Obama hubris regarding his reelection, it was Obama who prepared both a victory and a concession speech and it was Romney who wrote only a victory speech. Now that is hubris.

It is a cliche but very true that the Republicans have fallen into the trap of believing their own press releases. They have created an alternative reality based on wishful thinking about how things SHOULD BE rather than how things ACTUALLY ARE. This is a fundamental flaw in Republican thinking and it is more than just about elections. It carries over to issues like climate change, gay marriage, health care, taxes. economic growth, immigration and how science works. They simply do not believe anything which their gut tells them is not so and they will not change their beliefs even in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence to the contrary.

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #32)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:29 AM

33. re: Republicans have fallen into the trap of believing their own press releases.

Republicans would be well served to hire non-Republicans to read their press releases. "Somehow they got ‘em to vote” is a perfect example of a statement that probably should have been put another way. In the context that the speaker was , IIRC, talking about AA voters in Ohio, the statement sounds like the speaker is saying "Well, they are a bunch of ignorant, unmotivated layabouts, but somehow they got 'em to vote." Instead, they could have tried a statement like "We underestimated their level of organizing in the AA community" or "Because of the economy, we underestimated the AA turnout."

Why I'd expect this from a party that regularly and frequently refers to Latinos as "illegals" and suggests they should all be deported is another question.

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Response to OmahaBlueDog (Reply #33)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:46 AM

34. Yup. Even in their profound bafflement they're still racists to the core

and that's their biggest flaw. They're so utterly convinced that everyone who isn't a white male is inferior that it never occurs to them that they're wrong.

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:31 AM

36. They are a fossil...

and I hope they stay that way. Their bigotry and divisiveness is unamerican and if they want to live in a country ruled religion, they can move to Iran.

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Response to CTDem44 (Original post)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:22 PM

38. Romneyworld was aided and abetted by the MSM all the way. It figures that this article

 

conveniently overlooks that little aspect of the election.

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