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Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:00 PM

Close States That Weren't Close

There was a lot of talk over tge past few weeks about romney having momentum and making gains in blue states. Lets take a quick look at the close states that werent actually close

Michigan Obama +7

Pennsylvania Obama +5.2

Wisconsin Obama +7

Iowa Obama +5.5

Maine Obama +16

New Hampshire Obama +6

Minnesota Obama +11

Nevada Obama + 6.6

Colorado Obama +4.5

Fuck the media. Bunch of lying scum bags

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Reply Close States That Weren't Close (Original post)
Doctor Jack Nov 2012 OP
99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #1
JRLeft Nov 2012 #2
Wednesdays Nov 2012 #13
MADem Nov 2012 #3
gordianot Nov 2012 #4
sadbear Nov 2012 #5
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #15
Doctor Jack Nov 2012 #16
Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #19
coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #6
MFM008 Nov 2012 #7
yellowcanine Nov 2012 #8
outsideworld Nov 2012 #9
Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #10
Jennicut Nov 2012 #11
Doctor Jack Nov 2012 #12
democrattotheend Nov 2012 #14
Doctor Jack Nov 2012 #17
democrattotheend Nov 2012 #20
MineralMan Nov 2012 #18
LisaL Nov 2012 #21

Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:03 PM

1. And that's not even counting all the people who gave up and left long lines

because they didn't want to lose their jobs,
or they had no 8 hour parking spot and didn't
want to get their car towed.

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:03 PM

2. PPP had Colorado +5 in their final poll.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 06:35 PM

13. What about the others?

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:08 PM

3. Close races = ADVERTISING DOLLARS. Lots of 'em.

They conned everyone to keep the money rolling in.

It's an argument for profound campaign finance reform.

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Response to MADem (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:16 PM

4. I would guess someone made some money on the campaign spending.

A friend who collects campaign buttons was complaining about the high cost of Republican buttons this year.

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:19 PM

5. I hope I've learned my lesson.

I've been preaching about this MSM horse race tactic the whole time, but there was always a little part of me that wondered if they could be right. Never again.

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Response to sadbear (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:13 PM

15. Even MSNBC kept acting like it could go either way up until they called it.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:17 PM

16. NBC was much better last night than MsNBC

Once Pennsylvania was called, they made it pretty clear that they thought Romney had no chance.

I was texting my dad all night and he kept complaining because i would send something like "Obama won Wisconsin" and my dad would say 20 minutes later that MsNBC finally called it. He finally gave up and moved on to a different next work. He said they were terrible last night.

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Response to Doctor Jack (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:59 PM

19. I had it on Current.

It was a party. Cenk was on with Stephanie Miller and it was a laugh riot.

My fiancee on the other hand was watching MSNBC and was crying when I called her. They kept saying Romney was ahead or they were tied and they were talking about who would be in Romney's cabinet and what it would mean for the country and then all of a sudden they said Obama won.

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:22 PM

6. One day before the election, my local CBS affiliate was calling the race 'too close to call'. Bunch

 

of pathetic, lying assholes in the pockets of the 1%.

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:29 PM

7. They tried brainwashing

us into believing our usually safe blue states were going to flip to the flip flopper.
And congrats to Ohio, VA, NV, Iowa, PA, MI, WI and maybe Florida for staying with the program.

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:31 PM

8. The Team Obama GOTV rules and caught Team Romney flatfooted.

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:33 PM

9. PPP was almost spot on

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:33 PM

10. But it did get out the vote

hey, so what. I didn't think Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, or Nevada were close anyway. However, by mentioning these states as close it got out the vote.
I'd rather be worried and vote then think this election is over, not vote, and then lose.

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 04:51 PM

11. The pipe dream of the Repubs and some in the MSM was any of those

blue states being close. PA, MN, and MI were never in doubt in my mind.

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 05:20 PM

12. I think an important lession is to trust the true experts

Listen to Nate Silver above all else now. I think at this point he has been elevated to the position of "infallible". Until he screws up royally, which I doubt will happen, I will trust exactly what he is saying. If he says a dem is going to win, that dem will win, if he says a dem will lose, that dem will lose.

Chuck Todd on the other hand can go fuck himself, with is "toss up" bullshit. Him and everyone like him. I will never, ever, ever listen to what the MSM has to say about an election again. They are always wrong.

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:08 PM

14. Any idea why the Minnesota exit poll was so close/off?

The initial exit poll that CNN showed for Minnesota had Obama winning by only 3. How could it be that far off? I have heard of exit polls being wrong but not that wrong.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:18 PM

17. They did?

NBC said they didn't even bother with exit polling there. It was "too early to call" for quite awhile but that was only because the vote counting was extremely slow

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Response to Doctor Jack (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:40 PM

20. CNN showed an exit poll with Obama up only 3

Also, is this practice of actually releasing the head to head exit poll numbers when the polls close new? I don't remember them doing that in the past. It does not make sense to me to do it unless they are third wave, which at that point they usually are not.

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:50 PM

18. Minnesota was never close.

Not a chance.

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Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:45 PM

21. Really happy about CO. We don't have a registration advantage there, and

more republicans than democrats voted early. I think we lost margins in OH, FL and VA due to voter suppression, such as reduced early voting in OH and FL, no early voting in Va, long lines. That easily could have reduced the margins.

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