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obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:06 PM Jul 2016

My "big boss" has been a huge Bernie or Buster

And has inappropriately been dismissive of Hillary supporters in meetings. A good person, a very smart person, but has been Saradon-like on this subject.

She's called Hillary someone we can't be trusted yada yada yada will be voting for Jill Stein if Bernie doesn't get the nom yada yada yada DWS yada yada yada rigged, etc. The whole nine yards.

Ten minutes ago, she posted on her Facebook that she and everyone else needs to get over it and support Hillary, because, and I quote, the "differences between Hillary and Trump is startling, and I decided my bruised pride is less important than watching our world burn."

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My "big boss" has been a huge Bernie or Buster (Original Post) obamanut2012 Jul 2016 OP
!!! sarae Jul 2016 #1
I think the contrast between the two conventions obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #11
Better late than never rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #2
Someone said something to her privately and she stopped obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #12
Yes treestar Jul 2016 #3
That's wonderful. KMOD Jul 2016 #4
Or to put it another way... lapfog_1 Jul 2016 #5
Or-bust has always been a negotiating tactic for some. Orsino Jul 2016 #6
Well, that's great news! MADem Jul 2016 #7
... DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #8
Wonderful anecdote LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #9
If she can get from A to B, I am hopeful many others will too. Sweet. Good to hear! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #10
Wow! That's great news! calimary Jul 2016 #13
This will happen more and more. Agschmid Jul 2016 #14
My 26 year old granddaughter Mr.Bill Jul 2016 #15
Many of us can likely relate to the first big political loss No Vested Interest Jul 2016 #16
Absolutely. Mr.Bill Jul 2016 #17
I still can't believe that more people voted for Nixon dflprincess Jul 2016 #42
i'll never forget that barbtries Jul 2016 #55
My boss is almost twice as old, and pragmatic obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #23
Would something like this be useful? Fresh_Start Jul 2016 #37
Thanks, maybe eventually. Mr.Bill Jul 2016 #40
Pfff. Typical woman. GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #18
Where did you find a 'big boss' like that? Cirque du So-What Jul 2016 #19
Lucky I am thinking! obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #24
"Bernie or Bust" is cut your nose off to spite your face. keithbvadu2 Jul 2016 #20
Good for her. She gets it. DinahMoeHum Jul 2016 #21
it's she obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #25
"my bruised pride is less important than watching our world burn" Yallow Jul 2016 #22
Forward motion is progress obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #26
This indicates that some are more TNNurse Jul 2016 #51
Great! Glad to hear about the conversion! emulatorloo Jul 2016 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #28
She is a liberal -- and finally agrees Hillz is, too obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #33
Me too. I even ordered a tee shirt mountain grammy Jul 2016 #29
lol obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #34
while I am glad there's a convert I am a little leery about her being a boss DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #30
Not surprised it took a bit for her to pivet to Hillary. Time is a great equalizer. I try to give Ninga Jul 2016 #31
I think that will happen more and more Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #32
Cosign your entire post! obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #35
Like KO said, it's paper cuts vs cancer !! n/t Pluvious Jul 2016 #36
I don't get it. Why would her pride have been bruised? Vattel Jul 2016 #38
Sounds like she succumbed to an outbreak of sanity! Good for her; and all of us. Mr Maru Jul 2016 #39
That is certainly good to hear. qnr Jul 2016 #41
Brilliant! thanks for posting, obamanut! Cha Jul 2016 #43
"Watching Our World Burn" is definitely an option DFW Jul 2016 #44
.. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2016 #45
No one who understands what a primary is, should really have much "bruised pride" at all. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #46
No matter how much of a Bertnie-supporter you are ... nikto Jul 2016 #47
Did the convention help? IronLionZion Jul 2016 #48
I would like having a boss... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2016 #49
Wish I could get this message through to my wife... jimlup Jul 2016 #50
While everyone is entitled to support whomever they wish, dofus Jul 2016 #52
I have a Bernie bumper sticker on my front door. raven mad Jul 2016 #53
i know one or two bernie or busts barbtries Jul 2016 #54
Three more months of Trumpisms. Onyrleft Jul 2016 #56

sarae

(3,284 posts)
1. !!!
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jul 2016

That's awesome. I've been hearing more and more stories like this after the convention and it makes me so happy.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
2. Better late than never
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jul 2016

"Bosses for Bernie" has a funny ring to it.

Personally I wouldn't want my boss telling me how to vote or how s/he was voting. None of their business and not appropriate in a work relationship - your employees shouldn't feel your politics affect your judgments of their work.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
6. Or-bust has always been a negotiating tactic for some.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:18 PM
Jul 2016

Why not hold onto it until whatever one feels is the last possible moment? No hate here. There are still months to canvass and volunteer for a good Democrat.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. Well, that's great news!
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jul 2016

I'm a little troubled that your boss would badger ANYONE in the work place about their political affiliation, though--I just think that is not appropriate and suggests a failure of leadership skills.

I wouldn't like to hear that stuff even if it was to do with a candidate I supported. It just doesn't belong at work, especially when people feel like if they disagree, they could fired or denied promotion.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
9. Wonderful anecdote
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:34 PM
Jul 2016

Hoping to hear many more of them between now and November, including from disaffected Republicans.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
13. Wow! That's great news!
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:39 PM
Jul 2016

Thank you for sharing that very encouraging tidbit with us, obamanut2012! Sorta restores one's faith!

If it's ever appropriate to do so, please send her our/my appreciation as well.

Hey, it's HARD to get over a loss like this! It's damn HARD!!! I can totally sympathize with Bernie supporters for having come up short. When you have your whole heart set on something and you come up empty at the end, it's the bummer of all bummers! I take that heartbreak very seriously. It's worse than being jilted by your first love, because it involves something so much larger and over-arching. I'd say plenty of Hillary supporters know that feeling, personally, having gone through it themselves at one time or other. Especially in 2008.

And remember how most of us felt when dubya finally "triumphed" in Selection 2000? You wanna talk about feeling miserable? Sheesh...

So I try to keep that in mind. Those who are now finding their way toward supporting Hillary, especially knowing how earnestly they supported Bernie Sanders, I applaud. It's strong, committed, dedicated, and BIG people (and I don't mean their girth or bone structure, either) with their eyes on the prize and the big picture long-term (which also includes both Hillary AND Bernie) who can somehow make this transition successfully. I personally can't make that easier for any of them, much as I might like to. But I CAN appreciate the livin' daylights outta them and express tremendous gratitude.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
15. My 26 year old granddaughter
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:04 PM
Jul 2016

is a huge Bernie supporter also. Her take is that she won't vote for Hillary because she holds her personally responsible for stealing primaries from Bernie. She can't comprehend how anyone could have gotten more votes than Bernie. Oh, well, at least she interested and passionate about politics for the first time in her life. And I have 100 days to work on her. Right now she is walking around with a blank stare on her face like a family member died or something.

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
16. Many of us can likely relate to the first big political loss
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:09 PM
Jul 2016

we faced after being emotionally involved in elections.
Mine go back to high school days - so very long ago.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
55. i'll never forget that
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:24 AM
Jul 2016

i was 17, couldn't even vote, but went with a friend of mine and waited in her car. she had a mcgovern sticker on her car. she went and voted for nixon because the night before her boyfriend told her he was going to win. i was so disgusted and so helpless. hei won in a landslide because of dirty tricks and bullshit. i believe i was born a liberal democrat but that election was when i first really began to loathe the republicans.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
23. My boss is almost twice as old, and pragmatic
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jul 2016

Hopefully, your granddaughter will understand what can happen to us all.

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
37. Would something like this be useful?
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:20 PM
Jul 2016
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/07/30/1554378/-About-that-conspiracy

To believe that there is any significant degree of corruption in the process is to believe an impossibly large number of people are both in support of Hillary Clinton and willing to commit a crime on her behalf.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
40. Thanks, maybe eventually.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:47 PM
Jul 2016

First I'm going to leave her alone for awhile and see if time heals things a little. Then when the time is right I'm going to sit down with her and tell he a story about two guys named Nixon and McGovern. That was my first election I could vote in. It was horrifying to see that monster elected to a second term. Ditto both times Reagan was elected. But I got over it, life went on and I remained optimistic and involved.

Cirque du So-What

(25,931 posts)
19. Where did you find a 'big boss' like that?
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jul 2016

Throughout my career, my 'big bosses' ran the gamut from Better Business booster types to frustrated theocratic poobahs. I wouldn't know how to act if one displayed the slightest deviation from hard right.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
22. "my bruised pride is less important than watching our world burn"
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jul 2016

I will be putting a I'm With Her bumper sticker on my bumper next to my Bernie bumper sticker.

Time to fix our country.

Helping Trump won't fix anything.

I don't care if Hillary takes a little longer than Bernie.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
51. This indicates that some are more
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:19 AM
Jul 2016

focused on what they want then what Sanders wants. He understands that it is not about him but about the country. Some of his followers seemed to have missed this.

emulatorloo

(44,116 posts)
27. Great! Glad to hear about the conversion!
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jul 2016

That being said, she should have been reprimanded by her superiors if she was doing that shit to employees.

Response to obamanut2012 (Original post)

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
29. Me too. I even ordered a tee shirt
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jul 2016

and some yard signs, bumper stickers, buttons.. ok, I've gone a little crazy

DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
30. while I am glad there's a convert I am a little leery about her being a boss
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jul 2016

After all in 2012 didn' t we criticize the Koch brothers for trying to fix the election for Romney when the pressured their employees to vote RepublicAn.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
31. Not surprised it took a bit for her to pivet to Hillary. Time is a great equalizer. I try to give
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jul 2016

strong Bernie supporters their space, allow them to relax and make it no big deal when they convert. It's how I would want
to be treated.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
32. I think that will happen more and more
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jul 2016

As the primary recedes and hurt feelings and anger dissipate people will start watching Trump and be shocked at who he is and who follows him. We can not allow Trump to become president...he is a monster and clearly insane. I like Hillary...she is a good person and has been attacked for years unfairly.

Mr Maru

(216 posts)
39. Sounds like she succumbed to an outbreak of sanity! Good for her; and all of us.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:43 PM
Jul 2016

Because this can't happen, and there's only one way to stop it.





Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
46. No one who understands what a primary is, should really have much "bruised pride" at all.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 04:02 AM
Jul 2016

Look, I supported Sanders. I knew he was a long shot. Hillary got more votes. Hillary won, she's the nominee. So we support the nominee as the logical outcome of the primaries. That's what we did, that's what Hillary's people did, in 2008.

As far as your boss, "bruised pride", hey, whatever it takes. But me, I dont take the fact that my candidate didnt win the primaires, personally.

I just want OUR candidate to win the White House.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
47. No matter how much of a Bertnie-supporter you are ...
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 04:21 AM
Jul 2016

You will "get over the hump" once you truly understand the meaning of
catastrophe.






Trump = Catastrophe


Plain & simple.





We Democrats can hash-out our other differences on the issues after the election.

IronLionZion

(45,429 posts)
48. Did the convention help?
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 08:11 AM
Jul 2016

I would think the overwhelmingly positive message exuding confidence and solid plans and showing her qualifications may have helped bring in a lot of people who might have been on the fence. It showed a clear difference between the two main parties. And I have lost any respect for Jill Stein.

I trust Hillary and think she has good plans for us. It baffles me that other liberals don't. A friend of mine just can't get over the email server scandal and also claims that her friends at State Dept think Hillary is abusive/mean to her workers and takes them for granted. Not that our votes matter much since we live in DC.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
49. I would like having a boss...
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 08:20 AM
Jul 2016

... who was a Bernie supporter! That's not cool for her to politically bully people under her, though.

Nearly all of my bosses have been hard-core Republicans or Libertarians over the years. The less actual work that they do, and the more they delegate tasks on others, the more they've been that way politically!

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
50. Wish I could get this message through to my wife...
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 08:42 AM
Jul 2016

she's a Bernie or bust and won't budge. She seems to have something personal going on regarding Clinton but I can't figure out what to say to cause her doubt her bias. This is going to sound weird but I think it is a form of sexism. An assertive woman hating another assertive woman or a similar psychological bias.

dofus

(2,413 posts)
52. While everyone is entitled to support whomever they wish,
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jul 2016

it is totally inappropriate to behave in that sort of way as a boss. It's not really a good thing to do if you're merely a worker bee either.

Discussions of politics ought to be kept out of the workplace as much as possible.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
54. i know one or two bernie or busts
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:20 AM
Jul 2016

and at least one person who has said he would vote for stein. very curious to see if he's seen the light by now.

Onyrleft

(344 posts)
56. Three more months of Trumpisms.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jul 2016

Still bugged about Bernie but it's time to vote like a grownup. Protest votes for Stein could hand Supreme Court judges to Trump.

It's either Nein on Stein or a nazi nine.

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