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Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:24 AM

Enough with this, "Mitt Romney's concession speech was so very gracious!" No, Chris Matthews and

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every other pundit trying to sell that spurious angle. I was not impressed. MittWitt still had that odd, lame-excuse-for-a-smile grimace and the creepy vocal stylings of a cross-between-RonnieRaygun-and-Dumbya zombie .

But more importantly, what's this "critical time for America" he refers to? Seems to me that was the disastrous Bush years and their aftermath. Keeping Mitt out of office was critical, but that danger has mercifully passed.

And, how dare he utter that astoundingly Orwellian follow-up to his mendacious labeling of President Obama as divisive,, that shockingly hypocritical call for cooperation from the president! As if the gridlock wasn't caused by his own obstructionist party's obstinate refusal to deem bipartisan anything short of absolute capitulation to their every demand!

It's bad enough hearing the relentless Mitths from the Liar-n-Thief himself, but I am particularly sick of the MSM aiding and abetting him as he spews them.

I just found this WaPo piece which supports my impressions:

Historian: Romney speech ‘cleared the bar,’ but barely
Posted by David Beard on November 7, 2012 at 1:35 am

A concession speech is the last thing any presidential candidate wants to make, the last thing to prepare for, the last thing in a winner-focused society that he or she wants to be remembered by. Mitt Romney ”cleared the bar” with a short speech in Boston early Wednesday but it won’t be one of the most memorable concessions, said historian and political analyst Scott Farris. Farris, author of “Almost President: The Men Who Lost The Race But Changed The Nation,’‘ breaks down a solid concession speech into several elements.

”In many ways, the ritual is like a military surrender, and the winner tolerates the loser puffing up his own campaign — for that makes the winner’s victory only greater.

“ was a speech that sounded as if he did not emerge from the election with much respect, let alone affection, for the president. He sounded as if he really expected to win and was immensely disappointed in the result — even more so than usual.”

Read Full Article:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/11/07/the-art-of-a-concession-speech/?print=1


Also, see discussion here on DailyKos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/07/1157823/-Concession-Speech-Fail

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Reply Enough with this, "Mitt Romney's concession speech was so very gracious!" No, Chris Matthews and (Original post)
Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 OP
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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:25 AM

1. Yeah, McCain was also "gracious". That ended two weeks after the election and look at him now.

Fuck Romney and whoever from the MSM wants to lap that up.

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Response to smorkingapple (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:35 AM

7. Luckily Mitt's not a member of Congress

nor a Sarah Palin and he won't get regular appearances as a "foreign policy expert" or "thorn-in-side" that McCain/Palin got during the last 4 years.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:11 AM

15. Not an elected official at all, so why did President Obama say he'll sit down with him? Why

meet with a pathological liar?

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:48 AM

25. No, remember....he's "unemployed"

...so he understands the problems of working families struggling to make ends meet.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:49 AM

26. Didn't hear about that

n/t

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #26)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:59 AM

30. It was in the President's acceptance speech.

"In the weeks ahead, I also look forward to sitting down with Governor Romney to talk about where we can work together to move this country forward."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/president-obamas-acceptance-speech-full-transcript/2012/11/07/ae133e44-28a5-11e2-96b6-8e6a7524553f_story.html

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:28 AM

39. I think that the president realizes that the nation is divided and he needs to try and get past

the lies and the vitriolic rants of the right so that we can move this nation forward. Perhaps he's thinking that if he can bring Romney (a former moderate) over to his side (as with Chris Christie) this will permit other Repugs to cross the aisle and try and work with the Dems. It may be wishful thinking, but that is what I took from that comment.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:56 AM

43. No doubt that is the president's hope, and I wish him luck,

but I have little doubt that the Rs will slap rather than shake his outstretched hand.

They will go on accusing him of being divisive and they will loudly demand "bipartisanship." And they will use the fact that they met with him to "prove" that they were willing to work with him, but that nasty old socialist/communist/Kenyan/liar/uppity Obama just would not cooperate!

They shamelessly twist everything to adhere to their lies!

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:54 AM

50. What's the big deal?

He's being gracious. Besides, he ran in 2008 on a platform of bipartisanship and, to a lesser extent, this year. At any rate, he really has no choice but to work with the Republicans and maybe he sees meeting with Romney as an opportunity to help bridge the gap.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:58 AM

51. PBO was just being gracious... nt

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Response to NYC Liberal (Reply #57)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:30 PM

59. Thanks for the link. I tend to agree with the replies that say Romney is not interested. Among the

reasons he wanted to be president, I don't believe one will find actually helping anyone but his cronies.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:26 AM

2. Think I'll have to stop setting hardball on the DVR.

Goi g to write Chris a letter and tell him to knock it off.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:30 AM

3. He did not look sincere, IMO.

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:00 AM

31. Though, to be fair, he never looks sincere!

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:31 AM

4. He "graciously" made us wait two hours to concede

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Response to Sedona (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:13 AM

16. Bingo! Though, to be fair, he was locked in the hotel bathroom crying for a good 45 minutes after

he trashed the room.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:34 AM

5. I heard he is retiring. I think that is a good idea. He was helpful during the campaign. Probably

mad about the pundit reference in the President's speech.

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Response to demgrrrll (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:17 AM

19. To be clear, I actually like Chris. He is an overemotional, loud, opinionated Irishman, and I can

totally relate to that! But sometimes he's full-to-the-brim of malarkey.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:35 AM

6. It was gracious, which is why it didn't match ANYTHING he did for the past 18 months.

It was total invasion-of-the-body-snatchers, and I therefore have to assume it was fake as hell. Romney refused to show us his core during the election and, after all the lying, I'm not about to automatically assign him a positive one now based on his concession speech.

*hrmph*

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Response to NCLefty (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:28 AM

38. Well, to be fair to Mittens, he does

have a raging case of Romnesia.

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Response to beac (Reply #38)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:59 AM

44. I thought he looked sick!

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:37 AM

8. His praise for Ryan

... sounded more like a rally call to not blink in the coming fight over budgetary "responsibility". That despite that fact that this "intellectual leader" of the Republican party could not deliver his home state to Romney.

And the repeated lines, "I pray for President Obama" carried an ostensible double meaning: on the surface, for those (Democrats tired of the non-funcational government blockade) it could mean unity, but for the firebrands it certainly means pray that Obama is enlightened by God to see the error of his policies.

But I did sense that in defeat, Romney dropped some of his extremist right-wing baggage, begging the question of what this race might have been if he had run as a moderate former governor, albeit one with incredibly deep pockets and PAC support, who could have possibly led an honest and reasonable campaign set up for a "big tent" of diverse voters, rather than just the too-rich, the too-Christian and the too-dumb-to-think-for-themselves.

Unfortunately, the glowing remarks for Mr. Ryan in the concession speech suggest that the political discourse of future elections will continue to be "us vs. them", charged with extremist lies from a radical right that needs to stop chanting "USA" and take up shop somewhere in the third world, where their type of policies have already produced the results of class division and civil instability that HOPEFULLY no one could pray for in American!

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Response to nobunnyclue (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:09 AM

14. will that jerk be in congress?

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Response to goclark (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:18 AM

34. Yes, unfortunately Ryan won his local race.

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Response to nobunnyclue (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:30 AM

20. I noticed that as well. The rally call, as well as the double-edged prayer sword,

Thank goodness he didn't run a better campaign, though, because, despite my uncertainty as to whether he would have moderated his RW social positions--either out of conviction or expediency--I do feel very sure that he would not have moderated his feverish support for trickle down economics, which, despite the suppression of the report, have been recently again shown to be nothing but a very effective mechanism for redistribution of our nation's wealth to the top tiny percent.

And, as you said, that is a recipe for disaster in many ways.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:39 AM

9. Who is this "Mitt Romney" you speak of?

I don't remember him. He sounds irrelevant.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:44 AM

10. Please folks, let's not turn into republicans here,

we should have more intelligence.

Mathews still needs a job for the next two years and this is how he starts trying to gain listeners. Let's all just make a decision to stay away from radio talk haters and tv puppets of moneyed interests, using our own brains to decide our interests, learning our Senators email address and then using it weekly, personally showing up at our Representatives home office so that we can explain our viewpoints and doggedly nipping his heels until he votes along Democratic principled lines.

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Response to MrYikes (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:38 AM

23. Whether or not "we" view these shows, and I find many of them quite useful for various reasons,

others definitely will be watching them, and they will be influenced by the relentless spin to the right that is prevalent in nearly every MSM outlet. In addition to anything else progressives do, we need to influence popular opinion to bring more supporters to our side or the other side most assuredly will.

Using the many tools at our disposal to win is not "turning in to Republicans." It is using our intelligence.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:55 AM

11. I was particularly annoyed with Tweety last night when he slathered praise on Romney


for his speech and then laid into the President for what he didn't say in his speech. It was not the time for that but he had to go there. And he was out numbered on the panel who couldn't have agreed with him less. Yes, Romney presented yet another version of himself last night but couldn't it also be possible that it was one more permutation of the man? He has morphed so much over the months, I am not sure anyone can say with certainty WHO the real Romney is. The idea that he is a good and decent man (as Tweety asserted) was put to rest when he campaigned as a liar for months on end. That was HIS choice and that is what speaks loudest about his character as a man, not what he said in his speech last night. Ultimately, that is what he will have to face when he analyzes why he lost. And thanks to the American people for not falling for his hype and lies.

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Response to Grammy23 (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:47 AM

24. I'm with you on all of that. I don't give a single damn if he is a "good family man" (raised a large

brood of animatronic money worshipers, some might say) if his actions are harmful to millions of other families. He is, as you said, a man of poor character, so far removed from the reality of the lives of most Americans that he considers living in an apartment and occasionally selling off some of his large portfolio of stocks and bonds as hardship.

Not that a person can't be very wealthy and not be clueless, but most can't, and he's not one of those who can.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:57 AM

12. It's like Sarah Palin in the Biden debate

It's only because expectations were so low that people think Mitt was gracious.

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Response to DrToast (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:51 AM

27. I know! I'm surprised he didn't start the speech with,

"Is it OK if I call you people you people," and then throw in a zinger using it.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:04 AM

13. WTF? He acted like a kid forced to apologize by the Principal.

The whole brief speech sounded like a victory speech that had been retooled at the last minute. And he couldn't deliver it fast enough before hauling ass out of there.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:14 AM

17. I didn't hear an apology inside that speech....

So, was it "sincere"? In a pig's eye.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:17 AM

18. I did not find it at all gracious

and said so at the time. Couched in elevated language, but a rather nasty message, I thought.

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Response to union_maid (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:20 AM

35. He's spent years and years saying things in ways that manage to fool lots of people. But he doesn't

fool me. Or you!

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:31 AM

21. He had to be forced into conceding by RNC insiders

Not gracious.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #21)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:55 AM

29. I'll bet he and the Queen were both dragged to the backstage area kicking and screaming.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:15 AM

32. When even McCain and Plain had more dignity than you...

... you know how that ends!

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:31 AM

22. His speech was fine, time to move on.

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Response to MadBadger (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:54 AM

28. Sure, let's just "move on" from RW obstuctionsim and the lie that it's Obama who won't work with the

other side. Would you mind letting the Rs know that's the plan? I'm sure if you just say the word...

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #28)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:20 AM

36. We are talking about a concession speech...

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Response to MadBadger (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:43 AM

41. Exactly! So *concede* sincerely. You, of course, are free to move on. But if you compare these two

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concession speeches, perhaps you will see some important differences that illustrate my point.

SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN:

My friends, we have -- we have come to the end of a long journey. The American people have spoken, and they have spoken clearly. A little while ago, I had the honor of calling Senator Barack Obama -- (boos) -- to congratulate him -- (boos) -- please -- to congratulate him on being elected the next president of the country that we both love.

In a contest as long and difficult as this campaign has been, his success alone commands my respect for his ability and perseverance. But that he managed to do so by inspiring the hopes of so many millions of Americans who had once wrongly believed that they had little at stake or little influence in the election of an American president is something I deeply admire and commend him for achieving.

(snip)

Senator Obama and I have had and argued our differences, and he has prevailed. No doubt many of those differences remain. These are difficult times for our country, and I pledge to him tonight to do all in my power to help him lead us through the many challenges we face.

(snip)

I urge all Americans -- (applause) -- I urge all Americans who supported me to join me in not just congratulating him, but offering our next president our good will and earnest effort to find ways to come together, to find the necessary compromises, to bridge our differences, and help restore our prosperity, defend our security in a dangerous world, and leave our children and grandchildren a stronger, better country than we inherited.

(snip)

SEN. MCCAIN: Tonight -- tonight, more than any night, I hold in my heart nothing but love for this country and for all its citizens, whether they supported me or Senator Obama -- whether they supported me or Senator Obama, I wish Godspeed to the man who was my former opponent and will be my president.

Full test: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/us/politics/04text-mccain.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

****************************************************

Romney:

I have just called President Obama to congratulate him on his victory.

His supporters and his campaign also deserve congratulations. I wish all of them well, but particularly the president, the first lady and their daughters.

This is a time of great challenges for America, and I pray that the president will be successful in guiding our nation.

(snip)

I want to thank Matt Rhoades and the dedicated campaign team he led. They have made an extraordinary effort not just for me, but also for the country that we love.

(snip)

The nation, as you know, is at a critical point. At a time like this, we can’t risk partisan bickering and political posturing. Our leaders have to reach across the aisle to do the people’s work. And we citizens also have to rise to the occasion.

(snip)

I so wish _ I so wish that I had been able to fulfill your hopes to lead the country in a different direction, but the nation chose another leader. And so Ann and I join with you to earnestly pray for him and for this great nation.

Full text: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/11/07/transcript-of-romneys-concession-speech/

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Response to MadBadger (Reply #36)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:46 AM

42. This article supports my impressions...

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:18 AM

33. What were you expecting to hear from Romney?

He praised Obama for his victory and talked about working together. What more do you want?

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Response to gravity (Reply #33)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:22 AM

37. As I clearly stated in my OP, it was not more I wanted, but less.

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Response to gravity (Reply #33)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:01 AM

45. Article from the WaPo: Historian: Romney speech ‘cleared the bar,’ but barely

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 10:31 AM

40. Romney said the bare minimum niceties in a very short speech.

and he made himself look like a cry baby by making everyone wait before he agreed
that he lost OH.

Sorry, but Mitt Romney is a sore loser. And I'll bet you ANYTHING he found a way to make out
with a shit ton of cash from donors. If the RNC is smart, they will have their best accountants
look at their totals and look at what Mitt is going home with.. if Mitt hasn't already destroyed
the evidence. Which seems to be his mantra..

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:06 AM

46. he is an actor who now can amend his 2011 tax return and get more money back

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Response to Filibuster Harry (Reply #46)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:14 AM

48. No reason he hasn't already done that, right? Who would know who would tell us?

No question he will do so if he hasn't already. Another fail of the MSM. That should have been in every report about the released returns and the effect it would have on the rate. I wonder if anyone calculated that. No luck googling that just now.

Wait, here's someone who says it will be 9% after he amends:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/21/1134888/-Mitt-Romney-claims-to-have-intentionally-overpaid-2011-taxes

In the call out box: If Romney had taken all his deductions, he wd have paid closer to 9% tax in 2011. He paid extra VOLUNTARILY just for optics.

Not definitive though.

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:26 PM

55. simply not true ... here are the figures

Simply not true. Governor Romney's 2011 tax return shows (and i am rounding here) adjusted gross income of $ 13,700,000; deductions of $ 4,700,000; taxable income of $ 9,007,000.
The tax is $ 1,340,000 which is capital gains/qualified dividend rate of 15% and an additional tax of
$ 670,000 (alternative minimum tax). Tax credits amounted to $ 100,000.

Exact tax figures yield the following rates:

1) Income tax (without alternative minimum tax or credits)/ taxable income = 14.89%

2) Income tax + alternative minimum tax / taxable income = 22.37%

3) Income tax + alternative minimum tax - tax credits/ taxable income = 21.23%

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Response to Filibuster Harry (Reply #55)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 10:53 PM

60. Nope.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/21/romney-cut-deductions-on-2011-taxes-to-maintain-campaign-pledge.html

Had the Romneys taken the full allowable deductions for their charitable donations (assuming a tax rate of 15 percent) they would have paid significantly less in taxes in 2011—about $1.665 million instead of $1.936 million. Given income of $13.7 million, that would have left the Romneys paying a 12.1 percent effective tax rate in 2011. Nice work. But that’s less than the 13 percent that Romney had promised.

And they couldn’t have that. So the accountants had to go back, recalculate, and choose not to take nearly two million dollars in allowable deductions. As Malt notes, “The Romneys’ generous charitable donations in 2011 would have significantly reduced their tax obligation for the year. The Romneys thus limited their deduction of charitable contributions to conform to the Governor’s statement in August, based upon the January estimate of income, that he paid at least 13% in income taxes in each of the last 10 years.”

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Reply #60)

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:10 PM

61. thanks -- will double check with another 2 M in donations

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:06 AM

47. That's Why

That's partly why the American people rejected Mitt:

He's a spoiled, egocentric rich guy who can't graciously concede anything (to anybody).

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Response to november3rd (Reply #47)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 11:19 AM

49. I believe you are correct on both counts: he can't and that's at least one reason he lost. A very

good reason, imho. Imagine how great Obama's concession speech would have been.

Never mind. No matter how good, I don't want to think about that!

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 12:03 PM

54. Creepy! My ex watched Mitt speak for the first time last night..

(he'd successfully avoided hearing him speak) He kept saying "omg, creepy!" "he's so phony" "that congratulations part was totally forced and weird!!"

I agree. The WORDS Romney used were standard stuff, BUT.. his delivery was creepy, robotic, phony, fake, scary, and gross. He no more meant what he said than if he was ordering a pizza. Anyone with half a brain, which I KNOW Matthews has, has HEARD Romney speaking when he thinks he's not being recorded. It is WAY different than that. That is is his fake "I'm lying" face.... How many times did that guy need to lie during the campaign and be caught speaking on an open mic, for them to get it???

Fake.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 8, 2012, 09:59 PM

58. Creepy, phony, forced, and weird! Great campaign slogan!

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Response to Dark n Stormy Knight (Original post)

Wed Nov 7, 2012, 03:32 PM

56. Totally fake! Typical R$. And for him of all people to reference "honesty and integrity" - I damn

near hurled. The man is absolutely lacking in both; that's one huge reason why he lost so badly.

His concession speech was all bullshit; he didn't really fool anyone.

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