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Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:19 AM Jul 2016

Ron Fournier is on MoJoe today.

He's Sr. Political Columnist for the National Journal.

He said Manafort has worked for the Russians, and he lied to us repeatedly last week. He cannot be trusted to tell the truth about Trump's connections with Russia. Trump needs to release his financials and tax returns. They are discussing the Trump/Putin connections.

The group also covered the emails. They played with some of them. But concluded that there must be hard proof that Russian intelligence was behind the hack and release.

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Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
1. Talking about DT's response to "Putin kills journalists he doesn't like"...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:21 AM
Jul 2016

DT's response was, "well, we kill people in America too," per Joe Scarborough.

helpisontheway

(5,004 posts)
2. GOOD....I can't believe Joe is allowing a guest to talk about that
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:25 AM
Jul 2016

Usually he talks over them or tries to change the subject. I thought for sure he would be talking about DWS/CNN POLL the entire time...

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,789 posts)
5. Tax returns will also show borrowing from non-US banks. He's too awful a credit risk for US banks.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:32 AM
Jul 2016

He's been borrowing from Russian oligarchs and others in Europe.

I think Deutsche Bank's US arm will lend him money, but even though they are big in the US, they aren't really US-based.

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
8. Given his credit history with banks, bankruptcies, and
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:05 AM
Jul 2016

not paying subcontractors and contractors, I had wondered how he was able to get financing. He's a poor credit risk. I wonder how much banks have charged off?

bucolic_frolic

(42,678 posts)
10. The financial press has generally said recently
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:08 AM
Jul 2016

that Deutsche Bank is in the worst shape of all the European Banks

Defaulting borrowers is a rumor Europe would not like to hear

many a good man

(5,997 posts)
11. Hacking story may be a red herring
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jul 2016

We have to be careful here. Trump's and Manafort's ties to the Putin oligarchs seem to have real substance. This hacking story may turn out to be a diversion which can't be proved or can be discredited - leading the media to completely ignore the financial story.

Justice

(7,182 posts)
14. Russian hacking thing is a real story. The kind that could make a journalist's career. They will not
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jul 2016

let go of this - particularly after FBI briefing today.

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
15. I hope some smart investigative journalists dig in deep.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jul 2016

Maybe they need to think about what Bernstein and Woodward started with before they exposed Nixon's Watergate.

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