Nicole Wallace: "The Party died in this room tonight"

[MohRokTah]

The GOP is completely fucked.

Holding onto their completely gerrymandered majority of the minority in the House is the absolute best they can hope for in 2016.

[MichiganVote]

1. Thought that was an interesting observation also.

[TheBlackAdder]

33. The party may have died, but the biofilth left behind is still viable enough to win elections.

[Beartracks]

41. Yes, Dems: Do not count your chickens before you VOTE!!!!

Many minions will still run to the polls to keep Hillary out, or to vote for their own "grassroots" people.

So...

Vote. Every. Time.

If it has a (D) next to its name, VOTE FOR IT!

Vote early.
Vote mid-terms.
Vote presidential.
Vote down-ticket.
Vote for dog-catcher.
Vote local and school board!

Vote like your life and the life of your country depend on it.



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[Salviati]

47. In the reddest of the red and the bluest of the blue states - your vote is important!

It's not enough that this fool gets defeated. He needs to be crushed, his "ideology" needs to be thoroughly repudiated. We need to run up the score in the states we win, and make his unfathomable victories as razor thin as possible.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

65. +1000 nt

[Cosmocat]

54. YEP

Nm

[bravenak]

2. She is right

[Hortensis]

63. And surprisingly honest.

This is obviously a last of the "five stages of grief" phenomenon.

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. Honestly ?? She said that??? Wow!!!

[fleabiscuit]

29. Yes...

[Craig234]

49. She wasn't saying the Republican Party

She was saying the Republican party *she had been part of* that had opposed isolationism, protectionism, and nativism.

She said now the part likes those positions but Bush and McCain were against them.

[GusBob]

4. Implosion, suicide by poisoning,

The death spiral started awhile back....The Tea Party

[ailsagirl]

5. It's been building for some time

I'm surprised it's taken this long to crash and burn

[GusBob]

38. Remember Sarah Palin

Thank her

[catbyte]

52. Actually, to be fair, Wallace was so horrified by Palin that she didn't vote in 2008.

[ailsagirl]

61. Ah-- you saw "Game Change"

Wonderful book, wonderful movie

I had a new respect for Schmidt afterwards, but now I see him trying to find something nice to say about dumdum and I think he's so full of it

I also read that Mark Salter, republican speech writer, is voting for Hillary

[LovingA2andMI]

32. Yep...

It was a slow death, starting with the Tea Party -- and now only a flatline exists.

[ecodeathmarch]

53. Republican Rump

People have been talking about R's being a 'rump' party for quite a while

2008, just one ex, nbd just fyi:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/11/03/opinion/03krugman.html

[woolldog]

6. Let's wait and see what the polls say.

Sounds like he tanked, but I'd like some confirmation in the polls.

[MohRokTah]

7. Your concern concerning this concern is concerning. eom

[woolldog]

9. Where did I say I was concerned?

Oh that's right, I didn't. I said I'd like to see some confirmation of him tanking the speech in the polls.

[MohRokTah]

11. Everything you post comes off as concerned to me.

It is concerning, especially when you are concerned with those concerns.

[MohRokTah]

16. I'm just concerned about you. eom

[treestar]

55. Annoyance from the constant downer types

Who rush to post any poll they think shows Trump winning while ignoring all polls that show she is winning?

[writes3000]

8. You'll be the first to post any negative ones.

[woolldog]

12. No one else will.

People on both sides prefer an echo chamber.

[writes3000]

19. Incorrect. People want real info. They don't need to be spun.

[RAFisher]

48. I definitely agree with you. Way too many people here in the mindset 'it can't happen here'

Clinton is polling within the MoE and we still don't know if Trump will get an RNC bump. I don't know why people are not worried about the polls. This is not going to be a 1964 or 1984.

[Surya Gayatri]

26. You can take that to the bank! Safe investment...

[Beartracks]

42. Yes, I think our definition of "jumped the shark" is somehow...

... very different from that of the tea-party types.

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[eppur_se_muova]

10. I've been having the feeling she's been looking for a chance to exit the GOP ...

Trump's flamefest may be just the excuse she was dreaming of.

Somehow, she just seems increasingly uncomfortable defending the indefensible, excusing the inexcusable. And I didn't catch that vibe from her before.

[Volaris]

46. ...'defending the indefensible...'

Nonsense. She was one of W.'s Communications Directors. What she cant abide, is that all the Party's Idiocy isnt coveralbe with a thin coat of 'smaller govt, less taxes' elitist paint anymore. Her notion that OH NOW the party is indefendible when during her time inside the WH, from a position to maybe even a little bit affect a different outcome when WAR CRIMES were happening is disgusting to me. Fuck her. Shes one of the reasons we are where we are, and until she admits that there is a direct line that can be drawn from Trump back to HER BOSS, she can go straight to hell. I dont care how much MSNBC likes her (all that does is tell me where MSNBC is really at).

Nichole Wallace is worried that the Party has died---then she probably shouldnt have looked the other way when it was being fed cyanide.

[kcjohn1]

14. We are always being told GOP is imploding

But they full control (both state houses) of 31 states to 11 dems. They control both houses of congress. If you believe polling they have 40% to gain presidency.

Which is the relevant party?

[63splitwindow]

22. Wait... which do you believe is the relevant party?

[LovingA2andMI]

34. You know heavy gerrymandering happened after the 2010 Census right?

On the state level, which is why this happenstance exist.

[groundloop]

35. True, but this DOES exist.

And as long as it does the repubs will be suppressing voters in order to hang onto power.

[Arkana]

15. Wait, she actually said that?

That's not a paraphrase?

I had to listen to Michael fucking Steele talk about how Trump dismantled the "restrictive PC culture". Fuck that fucking guy and the fucking horse he fucking rode in on.

[MohRokTah]

18. She actually said that.

I know. I was gobsmacked, too.

[sarae]

30. Ugh, Michael Steele...

He was saying how sad it was that Roger Aisles "resigned" earlier, because he really liked him.

[AllyCat]

17. I don't know her. What is her claim to fame?

[MohRokTah]

20. Communications Chief for W. eom

[pamela]

23. Game Change

She was the McCain person in charge of Palin who famously didn't vote in that election because Palin was such a basket-case. She was a major character in the book and movie "Game Change." She is on MSNBC now.

[LanternWaste]

60. Game Change was such a great movie.

Game Change was such a great movie, and by the end of it, I actually felt sympathy for Ms. Palin-- in the sense that everyone knew she was out of her league and out of control excerpt her.

[PearliePoo2]

27. Nicole Wallace was the communication director for baby Bush and then...

she and Steve Schmidt ran the McCain/Palin campaign. She was basically in charge of handling Sarah Palin. She made jaws drop when she confided she could not vote for their own ticket (because of Palin) and says she has PTSD to this day because of Sarah. Nicole is a regular contributor to MSNBC and is on 'Morning Joe' frequently. Her character (played by Sarah Paulson) was highlighted in the HBO movie 'Game Change'. (excellent movie btw).

[Midnight Writer]

45. Oddly enough, Rush Limbaugh singled her out for criticism on his show TODAY

He doesn't like how she is speaking her own mind instead of praising Republican policies and Trump.

[calimary]

21. Let's hope so.

I'm uneasy about it, myself. That Trump speech didn't make any glaring idiocy-errors, the balloon drop went smoothly, and there were no fuck-ups tonight like there have been for the past three nights of this hapless shit show.

TONS of red meat were thrown at the hungry and extremely angry crowd. And I bet they gobbled it up raw and without any dipping sauce. He was an expert salesman tonight. That's how his "Art of the Deal" ghostwriter, Barry Schwartz described him, from having had the lengthy and maddening experience of trying to work with him to put the book together. He's a salesman. And he sold a big bill o' goods tonight. Had plenty of eager buyers, too. He told them EVERYTHING they wanted to hear.

His poll numbers will likely go up after this, and that'll be all the news all day tomorrow and well into the weekend and Monday, when the Democratic Convention begins. But that's the good part. He was very tightly controlled, clung to that teleprompter, and didn't go nutzoid too badly, so he'll get a post-convention bump. But, next week, so will Hillary. Probably enough to push her back over him and dissolve whatever short-term advantage tonight will have won for him - and it probably will have won him some points, maybe pushing him up ahead of her. The CONvention was a shit-show for its first three days. They're lucky there were no glaring errors tonight, though, so they get to finish on a high note. And the press will play it up, big, for sure. But that's for now. WE have next week and our own four-night show with which to hit the reset button.

I'm glad our team is going second. That means WE get the last word.

[63splitwindow]

25. Imagine if Hillary was to forget to say...

"And God Bless the United State of America" at the end of a major speech (as Don the Con did tonight.) Hollering the entire speech isn't statesman like either, it's just angry old white guy.

[groundloop]

37. Don didn't say "God Bless the United States of America"??????

NO.... Say it ain't so Joe !!!!

I'm positive he'll be called to task over that screw up by Faux Noise.

[63splitwindow]

44. Check it out. He said to audience "God bless you all" and "I love you" but NADA about USA.

If Hillary or President Obama were to do this they Repugnizanti would say it was intentional or, at ABSOLUTE best, a Freudian slip revealing true feelings. It would be a HUGE deal to them that would last forever.

[calimary]

56. Oh MAN, 63splitwindow! Anybody remember the middle-aged woman, during the Obama campaign,

who'd just been laid off, and was facing a very uncertain future thanks to the bush/cheney economic disaster, but she refused to consider then-candidate Barack Obama, because he didn't wear a flag pin on his lapel? She simply couldn't vote for somebody who didn't wear a flag pin. And she said so, flat out.

She flatly and wholeheartedly rejected a change of leadership AWAY from the catastrophic full-spectrum mess the CONS had A) created and B) were leaving behind, because the Democratic candidate didn't wear a flag pin. Which, btw, wasn't true - he did. A lot. Back then. Once or twice in the beginning, he hadn't gotten into the habit yet. But THAT alone, because he hadn't worn a flag pin that day, disqualified him.

Sad. And utterly pathetic.

[63splitwindow]

62. Oh MAN, calimary

Sad and utterly pathetic is those who cannot stand it when someone even hints at disagreeing with them. We both loathe Don the Con. Why start personal insults?

[tenderfoot]

24. She's an ass

eom

[Craig234]

51. She is.

Watched her on the whyever-msnbc-always-has-on-so-many-republicans MSNBC shows and she was.

No accounting for taste, Rachel always called her a good friend.

[Mike Nelson]

28. Did not see her...

...I was wondering why she wasn't around. I guess she appeared briefly. I flip stations, but usually see her... this was one time I would have actually liked seeing her!

[Initech]

31. No wonder he's been getting comparisons to the Undertaker.

[oberliner]

36. What does that mean?

This is the party.

[ffr]

40. GOTV to make it so.

[AgadorSparticus]

43. K&R for all the worry worth out there.

[tallahasseedem]

57. Actually Nicole...

it died when you and Schmidt propped up Palin as a VP candidate.

The only thing I find comforting with this is my hope that there are plenty more like her that can influence others not to vote for Trump. I think there are more than we know out there, especially after his NATO comments.

[Eleanors38]

64. Good point. Flies were collecting around the basement floor about then.

[Scurrilous]

58. K & R

[LanternWaste]

59. This election cycle appears to be a crucible for the GOP with two possible choices.

This election cycle appears to be a crucible for the GOP with two possible choices. Denounce and deny their extremist ideologies as the Democrats did with the Dixiecrats, or embrace them and become something other than the GOP.

The voter suppression, gerrymandering and radio branding has given them only so much wiggle room over the past 20 years in the face of changing demographics. They've played that hand (and played it effectively), and it worked in the short term, but now the time has come for the GOP to adapt and change dramatically, or simply wither on the vine as we watch the end of the Republicans and the birth of something new to take its place.