Tempers are flying among CNN commentators, but most of them HATE THE SPEECH.

[pnwmom]

How are the other networks reacting?

[book_worm]

1. From what I hear Chris M has another crush

[piechartking]

5. Not really

He keeps saying that T was yelling the whole time, angry.

Also said that he didn't get the cadence down.

Even said if you say Hillary yells you better be ready to defend Trumps yelling

[book_worm]

7. Thanks for the correction. I'm not watching, but somebody else

posted that Chris M loved it.

[tallahasseedem]

17. He did...

I'm sure clips will be up soon. There are many people on other boards and Twitter more than irritated about it.

[tallahasseedem]

10. You must have missed most of what he said...

He praised it completely.

[piechartking]

15. Steve Schmidt was the only one I saw fully praising

Chris M was not that effusive

[tallahasseedem]

20. What are you watching?!?!!!

His praised it, but on a much more monotone level...nothing like I thought he would.

[piechartking]

23. Ok here's my view

Steve Schmidt: 100% positive - dark, but that's what people are feeling
Chris Matthews: Trump - out of cadence, angry but picked it up in the end.
Chris Matthews: Ivanka - GREAT! SPEECH SCHOOL (whatever the hell that means) MATERIAL

I don't think I'm off here.

[Arkana]

24. Schmidt's an RNC toady, that's not surprising.

Only other sycophant I saw was Michael Steele.

[CrispyQ]

39. On the daughter.

He's so predictable.

[Adrahil]

44. I think that's a misinterpretation.

Sometimes Matthews comes of as actually liking something, when he is just being a cold political wonk. I think he thinks Trump has found a string to pluck on that resonates with some voters. I think Matthews is right about that. But because he thinks a particular tactic works on some voters doesn't mean he AGREES with Trump. In fact, the other night he openly said he supports HRC.

[vadermike]

2. good

good!!!!

[vadermike]

3. tweety can go suck it

lol

[tavernier]

4. Several are livid

Referring to it as horrible and offensive and vile.

[woolldog]

6. Who????????

[annavictorious]

9. Eugene and Joy

and now Tweety is saying the delivery was too angry.

[woolldog]

12. Well it wasn't aimed at POC so no surprise there.

[tavernier]

11. The Hispanic lady

and the very handsome dark man next to her. And what is his name (Gloria's kid) didn't seem impressed.

[MFM008]

33. Anderson Cooper

lol.

[pnwmom]

13. I don't watch enough to know most people by name but the Hispanic commentator is furious,

and so is Van Jones. (I think that's his name.) Anderson Cooper is negative, too, but his emotions have been more in control.

I forget who said what but I think Van Jones said Trump was worse than George Wallace.

[woolldog]

14. What about David Gergen?

[pnwmom]

16. Which network is he on? I've been watching CNN since it isn't as liberal and I wanted

to know what sort of message they were sending.

And it's not good for Trump.

[woolldog]

19. He's on CNN.

Bald white man.

[pnwmom]

22. Yeah I do know who he is but I haven't him since the speech was over.

[Nancy Waterman]

8. Gene Robinson said it best

He said the speech was a message to White America: Be very afraid, and I will protect you. He also pointed out the angry tone.

The rest of the comments were pretty thin on MSNBC. I was disappointed. I thought the speech was horrid: angry, grating, leaden, singsongy, shallow and stupid, with lots of bull **** and outright lies. No warmth, no feeling of genuine feeling or concern, just empty words and posturing.

[pnwmom]

18. Well, if Trump thinks he's a new Reagan, he sure didn't behave like one. n/t

[Motley13]

51. after Reagon got alzheimers

although I thought Ron always had it

[tavernier]

21. Some dipshit lady on MSNBC

just said it brought her to tears because of his honesty.



I think he went so long so that the fact checkers didn't have time to weigh in.

[Blue Idaho]

42. Andrea Mitchell by any chance?

She HATES the Clintons so it would be par for the course.

[tavernier]

43. No, lol

A delegate.

But Andrea says it all with her smarmy smirk.

[Cha]

32. Mahalo for that, Nancy!

[oberliner]

25. That's not true - most of them thought it was a good speech

With two notable exceptions (Van and Ana).

[pnwmom]

26. Right after the speech it was the other way around -- only a couple were defending it. Later they

had a Trump speech writer and Paul Manafort and others defending it.

[oberliner]

29. Ana and Van were the only ones who reacted really negatively to the speech

The main group seemed to think it was effective, though somewhat negative in tone. But they seemed to say that it did lay out his agenda (immigration, crime, trade). With Jeff and Corey thinking it was superb in every respect.

[EffieBlack]

52. They were actually visibly shaken by it

Something that seemed lost on the other panelists - although Anderson Cooper seemed to get it.

This is one of the great frustration for minorities - when faced with ugly bigotry that we recognize and often have a visceral reaction to, too many white folks respond as if it's no big deal, showing absolutely no empathy or even concern that their colleague, the person right next to them is almost in tears.

[writes3000]

27. You're going to have to name names because from what I saw, most didn't like it.

There are reporters on that panel who need to seem somewhat neutral. But John (who ran the panel), Gloria B. definitely leaned against it. Along with Ana and Van.

The two guys from the Trump team loved it, of course.

David Alexrod didn't.

[oberliner]

28. The same names you listed

John, Gloria, David, and Anderson all seemed to think it was an effective speech (along with Jeff and Corey, of course) even if they thought it was negative in tone. Van and Ana were really the only ones who explicitly did not like it.

One of that group said it did a good job of laying out the central issues of his campaign (immigration, crime, jobs, trade, etc.)

[writes3000]

30. I didn't see, hear of feel any of them saying he expanded beyond Republicans.

And there was a tone of skepticism and cynicism within their analysis.

[oberliner]

31. Fair enough

There was something of that tone in their analysis, but I guess I thought there would be more of a "Good God what have we just seen" reaction from everyone besides the Trump bots.

[pnwmom]

36. They all agreed that it wasn't effective in expanding the base and that that was a REQUIREMENT.

It wasn't enough to toss red meat at the vultures.

[Hortensis]

47. Right, but a very damning evaluation.

Joe Scarborough is a strong Republican activist, but even he's making low-key but absolute statements of pessimism, including this same point.

[pnwmom]

49. It was kind of the opposite of one of Reagan's speeches. Reagan was the "sunny" President --

never doom and gloom. And that's what many people loved about him.

Bill was sunny, too, come to think of it. That kind of personality is much more appealing. There is nothing sunny at all about the Trump.

[Hortensis]

50. Yes! Trump's built his whole political career on roiling

up angry emotions, appealing to the worst in people. I think he's a salesman who long ago identified a big group of easy marks and has played to it ever since. Trying to lynch those innocent young black guys in NY, birtherism, Mexican rapists, now this overloaded cart of everything all those undeclared John Bircher types loathe and fear.

And that's all he has. It was time to roll out "Morning in America" and he doesn't have it. Because it's not in them to just pump up and exploit.

[SomethingNew]

34. Cooper had the best line of the night.

When asked by Jeff Lord how many gay people were in the crowd (rhetorically), Cooper responded that he saw one for sure. Everyone thought he meant Thiel but he clarified that "No, it was the man in the sequined jacket." Lol.

It got lost in the tempers that were flying back and forth but I appreciated the levity.

[vadermike]

35. well

whatever the case may be.. if we see a massive Trump bounce we are gonna be in trouble especially if PA OH MI go redder in the polling we will be in deep shit

[riversedge]

41. deep

[SaschaHM]

37. I think the face that the two PoC on the panel reacted negatively to the speech...

says everything that you need to know about Trump and his divisive rhetoric. He painted an America, that wasn't in decline because of the actions of (mostly white) oligarchs, billionaires, and politicians, but because of the actions of PoC. It didn't matter whether they were undocumented immigrants trying to make a home or Black citizens protesting police brutality. Donald J. Trump painted us to be the cause of all of America's Ills. You can not be truly say that you are for law and order when you dismiss the findings of the FBI and the Attorney General. He makes me sick.

[pnwmom]

38. I agree. Someone said it was full of dogwhistles, and the blond Republican said she did hear any.

Of course she wouldn't! That's the whole point.

[bettyellen]

40. Am with you all the way on this. We were screaming at the tv all through it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

45. and rolling our eyes and showing him the finger. it was awful and boring

[bettyellen]

46. It struck me that I forgot you were an immigrant and dark skinned and how much scarier it had to be!

You're just such a sweet tiny person (despite the deadly mind!) I can't imagine anyone being angry or afraid of you, but of course the reality is much more complicated. And I saw that watching and listening to you. It really hit home.

[Hortensis]

48. Absolutely. To everything, except that

Hillary is the embodiment of everything bad about America. Minorities would be in their Father-Knows-Best place (not in the picture at all), men would be prosperous and confident in their manly roles, and wives would be secure and job- and stress-free -- if it weren't for Hillary and all she stands for.