Sorry, but those attacks on Hillary last night may be uniting the GOP...at least those at the

[glennward]

convention. But they are also uniting Democrats and others outside the convention.

[Iggo]

1. I accept your apology.

[ericson00]

2. its faux unity; it won't last long

especially once several crossover Republicans speak at the DNC next week.

Or when Cruz helps destroy this "unity," which knowing his ego, he will.

[Still In Wisconsin]

3. David Brooks actually summed it up nicely last night:

He said words to the effect of "I can't see what they're going to accomplish, other than getting people who already hate Hillary to REALLY hate Hillary.

[tonyt53]

28. Exactly. Preaching to the same choir but with a different preacher but with the same message.

[riversedge]

29. but they go home and get more to hate. It has a ripple effect.

[Craig234]

34. Let's be fair

How much do progressives do that only make people who already hate trump hate him more?

[charlyvi]

47. I guarantee you

no one at the DNC will be calling for Trump to be locked up, not one Hillary campaign VIP will call for his murder, and every night of the convention will not be devoted to hating him at the exclusion of every issue. The past two nights, the RNC has resembled nothing better than a "five minutes hate" from 1984; except, their hate sessions have lasted for hours. It's a frenzy of hate that is destructive and dangerous. So please stop with the false equivalency.

[Craig234]

48. I accept your comment on the convention issue

But I stand by comment about responding to the phrase 'just make people who hate them hate them more' as describing a lot of what liberals do also. It's not false equivalency - I'm referring to that phrase, not to the convention extreme version of it.

[Dan de Lyons]

4. But suppose they did?

One curious trait that leads Republicans to stumble is that they often cannot foresee the results of their own actions. Their inability to foresee results may be linked to the fact that they cannot see that they have this weakness.

Suppose someone were to ask a Republican "What would happen if Hillary were unable to continue her campaign? What would the Democrats do, then?"

The obvious answer is that the Democrats would nominate Bernie Sanders. Who was running 14% ahead of Trump a month ago, when Hillary was running only 7% ahead of Trump. Would Repubs rather Trump run against Hillary or against Bernie?

Question Republicans. It will do them good to think.

[MoonRiver]

7. Yes they would rather run against Bernie.

Bernie was never vetted, much less subjected to decades long attacks. They kept their powder dry about Bernie, because they desperately wanted to run against the "Socialist." Nuff said because the primary is over, but I felt a need to respond to your statement.

[Her Sister]

12. this!

[Hortensis]

17. I'm afraid very much so.

How people on both sides can watch what's been done to Hillary for years and still will not understand that actions can be twisted into giant crimes and sins easily created out of nothing is beyond me.

But Dan de Lyons is absolutely right that the kind of people who jumped up chanting "lock her up!" again and again last night really have no idea just how repellent that behavior is to people of better character and judgment on both sides.

[NewJeffCT]

27. That was my argument against Sanders

from the beginning. One advertisement where he is quoted as saying he'll raise taxes on every American will make his negatives soar with independents and Republicans.

And, that's just one issue.

I was afraid we'd get another Dukakis - up double digits and then losing by double digits because one Willie Horton ad sent him into a tailspin. What's Trump got on Clinton? Benghazi!!!!!!! EMAILS!!!!!!!!!!! Monica Lewinsky!!!!!!

[yodermon]

33. The trends are changing on this, though.

The political future of the USA will be very interesting

Millennials have a higher opinion of socialism than of capitalism

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2016/02/05/millennials-have-a-higher-opinion-of-socialism-than-of-capitalism/

[Craig234]

35. Nice Hillary propaganda

But that's what it is - partisan speculation. What we do know is that as much as Bernie was less known, he still did better against trump in polls than Hillary.

[Cryptoad]

10. geeez,,,,,,get hold of urself,,,,

he lost........ move on with ur life.

[Craig234]

36. Another rude post from a Hillary supporter

Pretty bad when you have to read trump supporters for more polite replies than a lot of Hillary supporters.

Good thing we don't hold Hillary to blame for some of her supporters.

[NCTraveler]

42. Can you point me to these polite Trump supporter replies you are reading?

Link?

[Craig234]

45. Oh, they're rude

They're just less rude.

[NCTraveler]

46. Lol. Nt

[cosmicone]

15. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[NCTraveler]

43. +1 nt

[bettyellen]

24. Lol, they are more terrified of Hillary. Hoping for Sanders crossovers from those who blindly hate

As they do. And we all know some of those exist.

[pnwmom]

49. No, that's not how it works. Once she has the nomination, the fact that he was #2 won't figure.

They don't default to that person.

It's much more likely that her V.P. or Joe Biden would be chosen.

[BobbyDrake]

5. Concernucopia!

So much concern...

[Johnny2X2X]

6. Do not dismiss this

This is a powerful force and these nuts represent more Americans than you think.

Do not underestimate them, this group will burn the country down if they gain power.

[Big Blue Marble]

8. The real question is

What will they do when they do not gain power. They could be
evem more dangerous.

[Johnny2X2X]

11. Not a chance they will be more dangerous

This group is literally talking about building a giant wall, throwing 11 million Americans over it. Their nominee wants to nuke any country that opposes him, has talked openly about the need to jail media members who speak against him, and is probably a white supremacist.

If Trump and this group come to power they will leave America in ashes.

[KingCharlemagne]

14. Agreed. All leftists must now hope for the best, but plan

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for the worst. I know I am.

[Hortensis]

20. +1000. Trump would mean Koch alliance, religious right,

social conservative bigotry, and, inevitably, fascism in ascendance. Also President Pence because he believes God is on both Pat Robertson's and big business's side. Imo, the right would lead the removal of Trump from office.

[1StrongBlackMan]

37. Sadly, too many on the left are cheering for your last statement ...

as they believe it will usher in a progressive era.

While it might ... we'd be looking at a decade or more of pain.

[Ilsa]

26. There are A LOT of them, and they have found ways to

Keep other-minded people from voting. They are dangerous, they cheat and play dirty tricks, and we can't take this election for granted.

[tallahasseedem]

9. It should be uniting us...

that shit is scary and I witnessed the 2000 coup and 8 subsequent years of destruction.

I donated this morning after receiving a great email from the campaign. We should all remain vigilant and GOTV!

[Hortensis]

21. A loss in 2016 would be incredibly worse.

Anti-statists like the Kochs would get control of SCOTUS and use that to begin the dismantling of our national government and tax structure, transfer of much power to the states, and reinterpretation of our constitution.

[tallahasseedem]

22. You are exactly right...

and I never thought it could get worse than Bush...boy was I wrong!

[Hortensis]

25. Scary times. Deep breath. Although the gap between

them widens and narrows with the breeze, Hillary has been ahead by every measure for months. It'd take a political earthquake for him to win. Unfortunately Trump's first trial date is after the election, but perhaps the media will be talking about it before, and we can count on him to continue to demonstrate his literally pathologic incompetence.

[1StrongBlackMan]

38. +1 ... But, "Begin"? ... That has been a work in progress for the last 30 years.

[Hortensis]

40. Oh, definitely, 1SBM. But that was just a bunch of progressive

laws and programs dismantled. I'm thinking about the next, huge steps planned.

Koch's group is by far the most powerful dark money group, and those 30 years are investment for far, far more. Not all of the very wealthy would support Charles Koch's plan to dismantle the federal government almost entirely, leaving mainly only the military, and shrink most state governments to bare bones, but they'd be on board most of the way.

For those who aren't already properly scared: That turning over of all federal lands to the states already in the 2016 GOP platform is definitely a major priority of this group, whose profiteering has been sadly blocked for years. SCOTUS decisions also eliminating the rest of the progressive laws on the books, such as labor laws, minimum wage, compulsory education, most compulsory taxes including for Social Security and Medicare, federal oversight of state elections, environmental controls, as well as most federal constraints on other state powers, and on and on and on would be churned as fast as they bring get the cases before the court.

And so much more eventually, all in the name of personal freedom and a strong, healthy society but with an unstated goal of making sure "the people" are never powerful enough to get control again.

[Her Sister]

13. They're showing themselves for the crazy they are!

Sane people ought to rethink after watching that shit show!

[L. Coyote]

18. Their level of irrationality isn't something they should be displaying. People are not this stupid.

But they are now stuck with a candidate with a child rape lawsuit, etc., etc., because just enough of them are that stupid.

They have to demonize the other candidate because their candidate is a huge problem.

[Gamecock Lefty]

16. I agree with Johnny2X2X!!!

Take nothing for granted and earn every vote. If the polls are in our favor or if they are not, do not get complacent, keep fighting. We cannot have Don the Con choosing our Supreme Court nominees.

We may think of what’s going on in Cleveland as a clown show (klan show?), but they represent a huge part of the electorate.

Rest not fellow Dems. November is not that far away!

[Her Sister]

19. 111 days from Today

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?iso=20161108T06&p0=777&font=sanserif

Less than 4 months away!

[The Green Manalishi]

23. Blinded by hate they are

Hate can be a motivating force, indeed I think it good when we hate evil such as abuse or genocide, but hatred will blind them in the long run. An enemy motivated by hate can well be powerful and energetic, but their very strength will be their weakness.

[Sheepshank]

30. The crowd chanting "guilty" loudly and in unison, contrary to actual legal findings

......should and did actually give some pause. With misinformation, with false information, Christy was Judge and the Convention goers the Jury. They acted more like a lynch mob (and yes, I chose that word kkkarefully). Bad optics IMHO.

[lonestarnot]

31. Yep all racists in one place. Feel free to point and stare.

[Festivito]

32. Dangerous. Their denial of having no-evidence will erupt into loudness and dangerous acts.

Lest they have to admit to themselves that they, their friends, their FOX, and their radios were wrong, lying or both.

[Orrex]

39. Makes it easy for the media, too

They can simply have some talking head chatter on-air while the Republican cultists chant "arrest her" in the background.

Saves them from having to do any actual reporting.

[GeorgeGist]

41. Hate is all they've got.

They're losers.

[obamanut2012]

44. lolz