2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPlagiarism may be the least horrible thing that happened on that stage
Egregious as it is, Melania's speech-stealing is not the most newsworthy thing that happened on that stage last night.
Let's look at the big picture, here.
Melania stole a couple of platitudes from Michelle Obama's speech from years back, yes. But also last night a congressman (Steven King R-IA) said on TV that whites have done more for civilization than non-whites. A soap opera actor called the president a muslim. Two different speakers railed against "illegals." The opening prayer referred to Clinton and and Democrats as "the enemy."
The coverage of the speech is sensational, watch-the-birdie kind of stuff for the news cycle, and what we really need to call out is the amazingly overt racism, sexism, homophobia on display last night. That needs to be the real call to arms. Forget the fluff, forget the distractions. The -real things- the people are saying up on that stage are disastrous. They are emboldening racists and fascists throughout the USA, and it's unconscionable that the media is letting them get away with it.
A tweet from someone on my twitter feed today:
https://twitter.com/supership79/status/755384971150430209
I agree she should be called on the carpet for copying so blatantly, but this is a sensational story that the media can plug into the headlines to keep from having an uncomfortable conversation and losing access to the RNC by making their headline "RNC is an openly racist, sexist, and homophobic organization, now." I'll bet when the fact checkers discovered the plagiarism, they all breathed a sigh of relief that they didn't have to report on any of the disgusting things the other speakers spewed constantly all night.
This post has been shamelessly cribbed from some of my other posts on the subject.
kcr
(15,315 posts)The GOP is just frothing at the mouth right now because they wanted the story to be Benghazi!!!!! And it isn't. I can't help but laugh at this debacle and feel joy at their pain over this.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)PJMcK
(22,031 posts)You're exactly right, Saviolo. The real issues that need to be addressed are once again over-shadowed by the shiny object over there. Who really cares about the candidate's wife's speech? It's fluff although I am wonderfully amused that Mrs. Trump quoted Mrs. Obama, wife of the hated Muslim/Kenyan.
You wrote a great line: "RNC is an openly racist, sexist, and homophobic organization, now." The Republican Party's platform and almost all of its members are horrific, regressive and un-American. That's what the country needs to be talking about. Add to that the fact that Donald Trump is an idiot.
Saviolo
(3,280 posts)Over the past 8 years, gradually weaning the media off the need for them, and now they've just got it all laid out on the table. The RNC is officially the party of "I've got mine" and to hell with anyone else who feels like they need a chance or help or a better life.
The platform they revealed is horrific. Doing away with LGBTQ rights. Doing away with women's rights. Doing away with national parks. It's a complete disaster.
PJMcK
(22,031 posts)kairos12
(12,852 posts)LonePirate
(13,417 posts)Pat Buchanan's notorious convention from the 90s almost seems like something you would hear from hippies at a commune when compared to the bile spewed yesterday from the GOP convention.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)just to clear his throat. It was extremely comparable to that which they are now spouting. It was nothing like anything any hippie would say.
Pat:
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/patrickbuchanan1992rnc.htm
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)I have shamelessly enjoyed the plagiarism story, but you are absolutely right; the larger story is how regressive, bigoted, and hateful the entire Republican party has become. Trump is just the frothing id, but the rest of the party agrees with most of what he says, they just don't want him to say it out loud.
Saviolo
(3,280 posts)I've enjoyed a bit of schadenfreude about it, too. It's pretty funny, I just wish it had been a side bar instead of the headline.
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)hate, bigotry, and faux patriotism in one place, it is easy to overlook the very obvious. As you pointed out in a comment, they don't even bother with dog whistles anymore.
Excellent post.
Cosmocat
(14,563 posts)in politics specifically, but in the public spectrum generally.
We see this all the time with politicians who are real scumbags but keep getting away with it, and then one seemingly benign thing happens and everyone goes apeshit, well beyond what would seemingly be attached to it, but it really everything folding in at once.
Roger Goodell is an example. He did a LOT of dirt for the NFL, literally burning the spygate videos, and repeatedly acted in favor or certain owners and teams, and the media just kept breathlessly saying how great he was.
Then, because he had gotten away with so much shit, he did the dirt for Baltimore with Ray Rice, and it just completely blew up on him. Nothing he did there was different than what he had done countless other times. It just was one times too many, there ended up being the video and everyone went apeshit.
Saviolo
(3,280 posts)You see it over and over and over again, and I'm just so frustrated with it. I do feel the need to call it out when I see it now.
The plagiarism has so much attention because it's funny, yes, but we can't keep watching the birdie while the RNC is over there setting the world on fire.
Cosmocat
(14,563 posts)the whole day was on abhorrent hatefest, just totally despicable.
But, had some dolt not ripped those pargraphs, the media would note some of the delegate stuff, but outside of that saying how WONDERFUL her speech was all the vile ass shit that was said and done would have gone completely unreported, and it would have been made out to be a successful day.
Sadly, we have to be happy this shit fest hit.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)vegetarian x
(150 posts)Thank you for cutting to the chase. I think they threw Melania in there to bat clean-up so we'd forget all the poison that preceded it.
Saviolo
(3,280 posts)It's too uncomfortable for the media to have that conversation about how they've been enabling these people for years now.
3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)I think a cantaloupe has a higher IQ.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)they were the ones who voted to cut VA funding DURING A WAR!!!
How do they have any support from Veterans?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And least nefarious story. They aren't going to call out their racism and bigotry. That would damage their party as a whole and the media is desperate for a horse race. Trumps wife is more about media sensationalism.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)There'll be plenty more ugly and hateful shit to come. Trump alone is a shit fountain.
Let's milk this while we can.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)that rival only with reason and straight faced priorities.
"Forget about rhetoric because Hitler and Mussolini are just as good at rhetoric but if we can bring these people down with comedy they stand no chance." Mel Brooks.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,994 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Taking the high road doesn't mean you shouldn't defend yourself and just let the lies go unchallenged. Already only the first night and the Benghazi stuff was already flying with no sign the debunking ( "given the order to stand down"...full stop right there)had ever occurred, just as if Hillary's exhausting bout before congress never happened. I couldn't believe the exploitation of Ms. Smith, who obviously has not even reached much beyond the second stage of grieving. I don't believe Rudy had the nerve to "go there" and so viciously. We all KNOW the Democrats won't stoop anywhere near those depths. Instant Rebuttal is another thing.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,994 posts)I agree with the main thesis to keep focus on the racism, bigotry, and lunatic ideas.
But I was wrong to suggest not trying to make the speech story go viral. It went viral and then some. Then it developed legs when the Trump campaign threw Melania under the bus by saying she lied about writing it herself and the speech was actually written by a team of writers. Also Preibus said "the writer" should be fired. So by calling it a "team" no one person has to take the fall.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512263132
Ineeda
(3,626 posts)tRump might be so outraged by the "attack" on his most--amazingly-beautiful-and-smart-really-really-smart wife, he'll go ballistic - in public. I don't think he'll be able to resist.
Regarding all the other outrageous stuff from yesterday -- I saw Chachi being interviewed by Tamron Hall a little while ago, and my dawg is he a piece of filth. Claimed to have written his speech in church. Tamron showed a tweet from him showing Clinton blocking a letter of a sign above her, leaving the word C*UNT, and asked him if he sent that from church. Of course he launched into deflective and anti-Obama mode. And so on. If I can find the clip, I'll post it.
Article and clip as follows:
http://theweek.com/speedreads/636982/watch-tamron-hall-hold-scott-baio-accountable-sexist-memes-epic-interview
nolabear
(41,959 posts)If they play it right the DNC will look like America, and this will look like...well, Trump.
AllyCat
(16,177 posts)misogyny, and hatred that was spewed from this event, we are in for a world of trouble if this is the only thing they will go after.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)were peddling fear, hate and outright lies. Seemed like a page from Goebbel's playbook. On the matter of plagiarism - They are accustomed to ripping off millions of dollars from unsuspecting people, do you think the 'royal' Trump family is going to care one hell of a lot for a few stolen words?
Interesting that David Frum would say the words had to be plagiarized as they are all the opposite of what Trump himself really is!
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)about her credentials. She's lied about having a university degree in Design & Architecture, when she attended U for only one year. Lying about higher education and now plagiarism, even a tiny bit of plagiarism, shows what we are dealing with here: a pair of liars and at least one, maybe two, narcissists.
But I'm sure the rnc is so proud.
HepKitty416
(10 posts)We don't matter. Our government is capitalism, not democracy.
Saviolo
(3,280 posts)Yellow journalism at its worst.
It's all about moving units, and getting eyeballs for advertisers.
Reminds me of my favourite of Brosnan's Bond films, Tomorrow Never Dies, Jonathan Pryce as a media mogul starting a war for ratings.
HepKitty416
(10 posts)Chakab
(1,727 posts)The most telling part of the evening for me that Sherriff Clarke, who's only notable for viciously attacking the rest of black America and blaming the entire black population of the US from coast to coast for the historic poor relationship with the police, got a massive standing ovation when he the podium before he even said a word.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)Then he fell into that certified repub brand of "personal responsibility"
https://twitter.com/ScottBaio/status/754552913842679808
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)they throw out this obvious lightning rod to attract energy, we
get all hot and bothered and rant and rave
Democrat's energy is spent at that point.
Then the rest of the issues go under the radar
They've been doing this since the "Barney fag" flap by Dick Armey
It's hard to keep up a level of outrage
unless you fake it like they did last night
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Resounding over and over an over again on Twitter, that's for sure