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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:00 PM May 2016

It's NOT JUST the Speeches: Hillary Clinton QUESTIONED Over Son-in-Law’s TIES to Goldman Sachs





The California primary is just over one week away, and Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are in a dead heat. Hillary Clinton has changed this week’s campaign schedule to add more California stops in order to try to reverse Sanders’ growing momentum. Yet multiple issues have continued to dog Clinton’s campaign, including the question of her connection to Goldman Sachs. The Wall Street giant paid Clinton $675,000 in 2013 to give three speeches. And now new questions are being raised about the ties between Goldman Sachs and Hillary’s son-in-law, Marc Mezvinsky. Mezvinsky worked at Goldman for eight years and then formed a hedge fund in part with help from Goldman CEO Lloyd Blankfein. For more, we’re joined by Intercept investigative reporter Lee Fang. His recent piece is headlined "Hillary Clinton Won’t Say How Much Goldman Sachs CEO Invested with Her Son-in-Law."



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It's NOT JUST the Speeches: Hillary Clinton QUESTIONED Over Son-in-Law’s TIES to Goldman Sachs (Original Post) Segami May 2016 OP
Why do Democrats want to nominate such a flawed candidate? Segami May 2016 #1
Why would we want a candidate that has a wife who WhiteTara May 2016 #3
Why would we want a candidate that has a husband who.... Avalux May 2016 #4
and a candidate who practices WhiteTara May 2016 #8
. mmonk May 2016 #18
Talk to those 3 million voters who put her in the lead. We had nothing to do with it here. randome May 2016 #7
that number is fictitious - Merryland Jun 2016 #26
The number is 3 million more than Sanders has so it's not fictitious. randome Jun 2016 #29
The son-in-law isn't running scscholar May 2016 #2
When they have nothing else, this is what they resort to. tonyt53 May 2016 #5
It's about her connections to Goldman-Sachs, not the son-in-law himself. cui bono May 2016 #9
He's not running. He's just gonna be our next Secretary of Treasury GummyBearz May 2016 #19
Is the son-in-law the designated fall guy? K&R Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #6
Good article about GS and Mezvinsky's fund's relationship 2cannan May 2016 #10
Thanks! Segami May 2016 #12
You're welcome, Segami--love reading your posts! Poor Greece, looks like those sick, twisted f*cks 2cannan May 2016 #14
Looks like Goldman Sachs has plans for Hillary Clinton. senz May 2016 #11
Her nickname is Goldman Handcuffs over at GS so I'd guess they think they own her riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #32
Not only is she not her husband, she is not her son-in-law treestar May 2016 #13
LMAO!!! cui bono May 2016 #20
How very right wing treestar Jun 2016 #21
So are you conceding that it's not sexism? It's hard to tell since you didn't make any argument cui bono Jun 2016 #22
Well you are just suspecting things because you've already decided treestar Jun 2016 #24
"Maybe the guy is qualified to work at GS on his own merits?" cui bono Jun 2016 #25
and Jane is not Bernie. grasswire Jun 2016 #28
If familial ties are on the table, let's talk about Jane running that ecstatic May 2016 #15
your guy is losing and hillary is not responsible for what her relatives do. nt msongs May 2016 #16
The breadth of her corruption is mind boggling. Doctor_J May 2016 #17
Bernie has associated with Marxists and pure socialists. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #31
I predict that when the next wall street-caused crash comes, Mr. Chelsea will make a fortune Doctor_J Jun 2016 #33
The paucity of good investigative journalists really makes Lee Fang's work @The Intercept stand out. AtomicKitten Jun 2016 #23
To the backers of a losing campaign this is important upaloopa Jun 2016 #27
So now it's her son-in-law. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #30

WhiteTara

(29,699 posts)
3. Why would we want a candidate that has a wife who
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:07 PM
May 2016

bankrupted her last employer and got a golden parachute before she got fired?

WhiteTara

(29,699 posts)
8. and a candidate who practices
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:15 PM
May 2016

crony capitalism while he rails against the practice for others?

They are all humans and inherently flawed and they want to do the best they can as politicians. I'll be happy to vote for either in November and to make sure there will be no President Trump and WWIII

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. Talk to those 3 million voters who put her in the lead. We had nothing to do with it here.
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
29. The number is 3 million more than Sanders has so it's not fictitious.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jun 2016

If Sanders can't win in non-caucus states, he isn't likely to win. Period. His 'revolution' is only taking hold in states where voting is restricted to caucuses. That doesn't bode well for him, does it?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
9. It's about her connections to Goldman-Sachs, not the son-in-law himself.
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

Do you think a connection to a Wall Street company that paid Hillary over $600,000 for a few speeches that she refuses to release the transcripts of is sillier than making up a complete lie about a chair? Or the pope?

.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
19. He's not running. He's just gonna be our next Secretary of Treasury
Tue May 31, 2016, 05:57 PM
May 2016

He worked at Goldman Sachs, so he is qualified based on all our former Treasury top guys. Running a hedge fund is just a bonus on his resume. Can't wait for this guy's economic policies to get implemented, they are sure to really help out the middle class!

2cannan

(344 posts)
10. Good article about GS and Mezvinsky's fund's relationship
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:28 PM
May 2016

Goldman Sachs Financed Hillary Clinton’s Son-in-Law to Make Bullish Greek Bets After It Structured Unseemly Greek Debt Deals that Hobbled that Country
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/05/goldman-sachs-financed-hillary-clintons-son-in-law-to-make-bullish-greek-bets-after-it-structured-unseemly-greek-debt-deals-that-hobbled-that-country/

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On May 10, the New York Times gently dropped a bombshell on the hedge fund investing world of New York’s one-percenters. Hillary and Bill Clinton’s son-in-law, Marc Mezvinsky, who married their only child, Chelsea, in an opulent 2010 wedding, was shuttering the Eaglevale Hellenic Opportunity Fund after it had lost 90 percent of its value. That is a staggering loss for a hedge fund, which is, as its name implies, supposed to have hedges in place to prevent that kind of loss.

The fund with the steep losses is part of a larger hedge fund firm run by Mezvinsky and two former colleagues at Goldman Sachs, Bennett Grau and Mark Mallon. The idea that a hedge fund should wait until it had only 10 percent of its clients’ assets remaining before shutting down is causing angst in billionaire circles, as are many other details surrounding this hedge fund. According to a 2015 article in the Wall Street Journal, the same fund had already lost 48 percent in 2014 – raising the question as to why it wasn’t shuttered then, when clients could have gotten a sizeable amount of their principal returned.

According to the account in the New York Times, the Eaglevale Hellenic Opportunity Fund imploded as a result of bullish bets on Greek bank stocks and Greek government debt. That’s raising even more eyebrows in investment circles since it was Goldman Sachs who secretly sold a complex and convoluted derivative deal to Greece in 2001 that hid the true state of its debt, then reworked the deal multiple times until Greece ended up owing Goldman a stunning 5.1 billion euros, almost twice Greece’s original obligation, thus making future bullish bets on Greece highly doubtful. Along the way, Goldman Sachs learned more about Greek debt than just about any player on the planet.

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We raise the plundering by the physical commodity empires of the Wall Street mega banks because Greece has an estimated $200 billion in mineral reserves, with concentrations of nickel, bauxite and gold, according to the Institute for Geology and Mineral Exploration. As the Greek debt crisis continues, the privatization of these resources will continue apace with Wall Street banks no doubt positioning themselves for the spoils.

There is one last thing to remember about hedge fund losses. For every crushing trade, there is someone on the other side of that trade making a killing. As the public learned well from Goldman Sachs and John Paulson secretly creating a subprime debt investment designed to fail, while Goldman peddled it to their own clients as a good investment and Paulson shorted it to make a profit of $1 billion (the notorious 2007 Abacus deal), until we know whom the beneficiaries of this hedge funds’ losses were, we’re in the precise place that Goldman Sachs wants to keep us: in the dark.

2cannan

(344 posts)
14. You're welcome, Segami--love reading your posts! Poor Greece, looks like those sick, twisted f*cks
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:47 PM
May 2016

at Goldman-Sachs (“the great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money”) have plans for its' mineral reserves.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
11. Looks like Goldman Sachs has plans for Hillary Clinton.
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:29 PM
May 2016

Goldman Sachs is in the Clinton family.

Or ... how to buy a candidate. She is owned.

If the Democrats nominate Hillary, they are nominating Goldman Sachs.

If America elects Hillary, we are electing Goldman Sachs.

If she nominates SCOTUS replacements, Goldman Sachs must approve.

Can you imagine the pressure on the FBI? Goldman Sachs is a powerful entity! Hopefully not as powerful as the FBI.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
32. Her nickname is Goldman Handcuffs over at GS so I'd guess they think they own her
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:06 PM
Jun 2016

Now we know she didnt just get her $675,000 for 3 speeches.

Its also millions (billions?) to prop up her daughter's husband.

Its sick. Just sick.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
13. Not only is she not her husband, she is not her son-in-law
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:38 PM
May 2016

questioning her about activities of her son-in-law is even MORE sexist.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
20. LMAO!!!
Tue May 31, 2016, 08:31 PM
May 2016

Sexist!

omg... please... you're killing me. You guys have cried 'wolf' about 100 times too many. You really need to stop playing the gender card because you are making a mockery of women's fight for equal rights. As a woman I find it embarrassing and you should be embarrassed. You are making women look weak when you do that.

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cui bono

(19,926 posts)
22. So are you conceding that it's not sexism? It's hard to tell since you didn't make any argument
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jun 2016

to substantiate that claim yet you made a point to use the word 'male' in your new claim that this is "right wing" tactic.

So let's look at that. First of all your premise is wrong. I certainly am not "attributing Hillary's male associates' actions to her". Where was that done? Please quote me directly with a link to said quote.

The reason to point out where her son-in-law works is to connect the dots of the relationship Hillary has with Goldman-Sachs. She was paid a hell of a lot of money for three speeches to them, refuses to let the public know bwhat was said in those speeches and now we come to find that her son-in-law works there.

Now you know if you substituted any Republican for Hillary you would be wondering about that situation yourself, perhaps even commenting how bad it looks. In politics associations are everything. You know that.


But let's pretend what you said is true, that people are "attributing Hillary's male associates' actions to her", what is right wing about that? I'm not familiar with that tactic of theirs. Or do you just like accusing Bernie supporters of being right wing because you like projecting? We're not the ones using Rovian tactics and making up outright lies such as chairgate and popegate.

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
24. Well you are just suspecting things because you've already decided
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jun 2016

Maybe the guy is qualified to work at GS on his own merits? There's nothing to prove he wasn't, just assumption that because he is married to Hillary's daughter, that alone means he did not qualify for the job properly. All people pull strings no matter what level they are at.

Now I always hate how people get jobs because they know the right people, and not because they are the best at the job - I have never had good contacts.

But resenting it doesn't get me anywhere.

I think you want this son-in-law to be corrupt ahead of giving him any fair hearing.

Hating a Democrat this much is not safe. Leave that to Republicans.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
25. "Maybe the guy is qualified to work at GS on his own merits?"
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:44 PM
Jun 2016

You're not getting the point. I'm not saying he got a job at GS because of Hillary.

Do you know about what they call the "revolving door" in politics? About how people who work in govt then go to work at the SEC then go to work in Wall Street? Or in other directions. Point being that people in all areas know each other and have relationships and actually take certain jobs in order to benefit those others. So they basically infiltrate all the positions necessary to ensure they get what they want.

It's incestuous and it's a conflict of interest. Maybe if you took your blinders off you would see it.

What you think about me in your post is incorrect. You didn't show me where I stated what you claimed I did in your last post, nor did you acknowledge - let alone apologize - your falsehood. You should stop speculating and respond to what I actually say. If you did that you wouldn't be so wrong all the time. I do not believe in mind readers and I highly doubt you are qualified to psychoanalyze me.

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ecstatic

(32,673 posts)
15. If familial ties are on the table, let's talk about Jane running that
Tue May 31, 2016, 04:47 PM
May 2016

college into the ground. And where the f--- are their taxes?! What are they hiding?! Or are they extremely disorganized and/or computer illiterate?! I used turbo tax for years (now using the cheaper but less user friendly TAXAct). I always save a PDF of the return, but if all else fails, I assume you can log in to Turbo Tax and get another copy.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
17. The breadth of her corruption is mind boggling.
Tue May 31, 2016, 05:34 PM
May 2016

It's like everyone she knows is a member of the Kleptocracy.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
31. Bernie has associated with Marxists and pure socialists.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jun 2016

The breadth of his anti-Americanism is mind boggling. It's like everyone he knows is a member of the socialist-Marxist cartel.

See how ridiculous that sounds?

Absurd guilt by association.

Another example of pure desperation. Please stop.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
33. I predict that when the next wall street-caused crash comes, Mr. Chelsea will make a fortune
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:50 PM
Jun 2016

Let me know how Bernie's family does.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
23. The paucity of good investigative journalists really makes Lee Fang's work @The Intercept stand out.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 02:21 PM
Jun 2016

k&r

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
30. So now it's her son-in-law.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 04:00 PM
Jun 2016

What's next? Her dog is too expensive a breed?

Her gardener owns stocks?

Pure desperation, segami. You're better than this. I know as I've read your posts.

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