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jillan

(39,451 posts)
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:02 AM May 2016

Andrea Mitchell wants answers about the IG report. Watch Hillary surrogate deflect every single


question.
All Adam Schiff says is - well, so and so did it too.
Unreal.

Nice to know that Andrea Mitchell still can muster up journalistic integrity from time to time.

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Andrea Mitchell wants answers about the IG report. Watch Hillary surrogate deflect every single (Original Post) jillan May 2016 OP
K&R silvershadow May 2016 #1
Incrediblly difficult to watch... nenagh May 2016 #2
SChiff Is Just Another Self Serving Toadie... Carrying The Water, Misrepresenting FACTS Laid Out In CorporatistNation May 2016 #24
A. Mitchell did well, elleng May 2016 #3
That's my congress critter. cui bono May 2016 #4
Nice rose color cheeks... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #46
The new mantra of the Clinton campaign is - Vinca May 2016 #5
If it was a mistake and she regretted it, she wouldn't have lied about Press Virginia May 2016 #6
Yes - One Too Many Mistakes For This Citizen - Out With The Old - Time For The New - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious May 2016 #61
Sounds like some at DU swallowed Andreas talking points hook, line, and sinker BootinUp May 2016 #7
Do you have actual answers to the questions or are you upset Hillary has to endure Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #11
Schiff refuted her talking points with no problem. nt BootinUp May 2016 #14
Is that in a different video? Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #15
lol, keep your Bernie filter on. Its almost over. nt BootinUp May 2016 #16
"But officer, that other driver is at least half as drunk as I am," is not a winning defense. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #17
Let me know when any laws are involved, until then keep flogging the records rules BootinUp May 2016 #21
Laws on non-disclosure and security, laws on FOIA compliance, laws on adherence to classification Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #22
I'm sure reports that an indictment from the FBI appears unlikely are wrong BootinUp May 2016 #23
Lots of things have been reported to Hillary's benefit. So far each of them has fallen away, in turn Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #27
Since you persist, and try to equate some records problems with the man who lied us into war BootinUp May 2016 #28
You can claim impotence but from here it looks like complicity. Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #31
These are the laws involved: bobbobbins01 May 2016 #42
The IG recommendations and conclusions were particularly troubling BootinUp May 2016 #43
They don't determine if laws were broken, its not what they do. bobbobbins01 May 2016 #44
You mean the State IG's talking points? Barack_America May 2016 #18
Oh yeah, the conclusion just rips Hillary up doesn't it? Lets look at it again... BootinUp May 2016 #20
This is proof that the media Karma13612 May 2016 #8
Jane Pauley filled in for Scott Pelley last night Mnpaul May 2016 #29
that would have been nice to see. sorry I missed it! Karma13612 May 2016 #34
Some clips are online Mnpaul May 2016 #41
What do you expect him to say? ucrdem May 2016 #9
Wow a steady stream of lies SwampG8r May 2016 #10
An interesting fact -- it was Kerry who alerted the two IGs to look into Hillary's email situation pdsimdars May 2016 #37
Hillary is campaigning she's tough on National Security, lol. This email B Calm May 2016 #12
When you lose the support of corporate money shills you have problems. gordianot May 2016 #13
There was a tightening of the rules in 2009. "so and so did it" is not a valid excuse jack_krass May 2016 #19
Hillary was the first SOS to use email on a large scale.Colin Powell only experimented with email. gordianot May 2016 #25
Perhaps team HRC should just stick to Tweety and Toadie, NorthCarolina May 2016 #26
This video is from Corey Lewandowski's YouTube page oberliner May 2016 #30
+1 BootinUp May 2016 #33
This is from MSNBCs website. Are they working for Trump now? jillan May 2016 #47
No it's not, it's from Corey Lewandowski's YouTube page oberliner May 2016 #48
Berners here love trump CorkySt.Clair May 2016 #49
It's an MSNBC video. Period. jillan May 2016 #50
No, it's not. Click on the YouTube video in your own OP. oberliner May 2016 #54
So your ad hominen attack makes it invalid? That's pathetic. BillZBubb May 2016 #51
Not at all oberliner May 2016 #56
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #32
If he is the best that team Hillary can provide ChairmanAgnostic May 2016 #35
"Painful" is the perfect word. . . OUCH! It hurt the brain to hear his gyrations. pdsimdars May 2016 #38
He seems unable to tell the truth. Sad. yourpaljoey May 2016 #36
Birds of a feather. . . . . . Team Hillary pdsimdars May 2016 #40
What a lousy liar. 99Forever May 2016 #39
Exactly. The Theatre of the Absurd. yourpaljoey May 2016 #45
Isn't this the same group that tagged her "Mrs. Greenspan?" yallerdawg May 2016 #52
Hill says-operating an off the grid server done to ensure her privacy in regards to personal life. notadmblnd May 2016 #53
The best way to guard her "personal life" would have been to host winter is coming May 2016 #58
That was embarrassing. You've got to give him credit though, he stuck to the script. BillZBubb May 2016 #55
All the Same Talking Points pmorlan1 May 2016 #57
Lackies covering the boss's ass. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #59
Why are people posting videos from Donald Trump's campaign manager's YouTube page? oberliner May 2016 #60
Is the video altered or faked? nt. polly7 May 2016 #63
Andrea Mitchell : Does it look like it's raining? Juicy_Bellows May 2016 #62
Really Greenspans better half? Demsrule86 May 2016 #64

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
24. SChiff Is Just Another Self Serving Toadie... Carrying The Water, Misrepresenting FACTS Laid Out In
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:27 AM
May 2016

THE REPORT... attempting to add confusion to the public spectre in order to minimize the damage to someone who has a hard time telling you what she had for breakfast on a good day without concocting a story. This phenomenon of Hillary being less than truthful and transparent is engrained i her character.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
5. The new mantra of the Clinton campaign is -
Sat May 28, 2016, 05:54 AM
May 2016

"She made a mistake and she regrets it. She made a mistake and she regrets it. She made a mistake and she regrets it." LOL. I'm sure the FBI will take than into consideration.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
6. If it was a mistake and she regretted it, she wouldn't have lied about
Sat May 28, 2016, 06:33 AM
May 2016

It being allowed by state dept rules and completely above board. And she certainly wouldn't have needed 4 months, after it was discovered, to claim she made a mistake. Not turning her stuff over, when leaving office, was a deliberate act.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
61. Yes - One Too Many Mistakes For This Citizen - Out With The Old - Time For The New - Go Bernie Go
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:29 PM
May 2016

eom

BootinUp

(47,085 posts)
7. Sounds like some at DU swallowed Andreas talking points hook, line, and sinker
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:00 AM
May 2016

BUT its the MSM ! Don't Listen to them! (unless they are attacking evil Hillary).

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
11. Do you have actual answers to the questions or are you upset Hillary has to endure
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:22 AM
May 2016

the indignity of being questioned by the commoners?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
22. Laws on non-disclosure and security, laws on FOIA compliance, laws on adherence to classification
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:13 AM
May 2016

laws on maintaining official records, laws on utilizing approved systems and practices and probably laws against quid pro quo come to mind.

It's not like the FBI is engaged in a security review.

BootinUp

(47,085 posts)
23. I'm sure reports that an indictment from the FBI appears unlikely are wrong
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:19 AM
May 2016

I am also sure the Judicial watch RW witch hunt wil succeed.

Not.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
27. Lots of things have been reported to Hillary's benefit. So far each of them has fallen away, in turn
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:46 AM
May 2016

However, since you equate no indictment as proof of innocence I suppose we were all wrong about Bush as he was never indicted over anything.

BootinUp

(47,085 posts)
28. Since you persist, and try to equate some records problems with the man who lied us into war
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:01 AM
May 2016

I'll try to explain some facts of Government to you.

I suppose you were one the folks who back in 2006, hollerered unrealistically for an impeachment of Bush? Because I don't know what indictment you expected against him. He was protected by the will of the country for the most part. Impeachments are political things, they are not about codified laws.

Since you made the comparison above, I can see that there is nothing, not 10's of thousands of released emails, not obvious laxness throughout the State Dept on records for many years and administrations, not the ridiculous overboard RW efforts over the past 2 years to pin something on Hillary, that will get past your anti-Hillary filter.

Good day to you.

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
44. They don't determine if laws were broken, its not what they do.
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:50 AM
May 2016

So of course they wouldn't make specific recommendations for Hillary. I've posted the laws in question, and the FBI will make a recommendation, not the IG.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
18. You mean the State IG's talking points?
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:58 AM
May 2016

The "vast right wing conspiracy" now extends to Obama appointees?

BootinUp

(47,085 posts)
20. Oh yeah, the conclusion just rips Hillary up doesn't it? Lets look at it again...
Sat May 28, 2016, 08:01 AM
May 2016


CONCLUSION
Longstanding, systemic weaknesses related to electronic records and communications have existed within the Office of the Secretary that go well beyond the tenure of any one Secretary of State. OIG recognizes that technology and Department policy have evolved considerably since Secretary Albright’s tenure began in 1997. Nevertheless, the Department generally and the Office of the Secretary in particular have been slow to recognize and to manage effectively the legal requirements and cybersecurity risks associated with electronic data communications, particularly as those risks pertain to its most senior leadership. OIG expects that its recommendations will move the Department steps closer to meaningfully addressing these risks.

Karma13612

(4,544 posts)
8. This is proof that the media
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:12 AM
May 2016

Can very clearly do their job and report facts. And draw contrasts and dig deep.

How refreshing.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
29. Jane Pauley filled in for Scott Pelley last night
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:04 AM
May 2016

and did a good job covering it as well as the rest of the news.

Karma13612

(4,544 posts)
34. that would have been nice to see. sorry I missed it!
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:22 AM
May 2016

they are CBS, right?

catching glimpses of actual journalism are rare sights, a little like seeing an endangered species up close.

We need to put 'true journalists' on an endangered species list, or maybe grade networks and journalists by their level of journalistic integrity.

Have it be updated and monitored and available on a watchdog type site.

I think it would be great. Maybe then, the networks would take notice if their traffic slowed or increased based on rankings by independent parties trying to improve reporting in this country.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
9. What do you expect him to say?
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:13 AM
May 2016

Crucify her? It's a thankless task but the media needs its news I guess.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
37. An interesting fact -- it was Kerry who alerted the two IGs to look into Hillary's email situation
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:39 AM
May 2016
 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
12. Hillary is campaigning she's tough on National Security, lol. This email
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:25 AM
May 2016

scandal will not go away. She's a flawed candidate and how unfortunate the DNC pushed her. If we end up with a Pres Trump, point your finger at the DNC!

gordianot

(15,234 posts)
13. When you lose the support of corporate money shills you have problems.
Sat May 28, 2016, 07:43 AM
May 2016

Even running against an openly fascist anti-Democratic egomaniac that a majority of Americans despise becomes a task. Hillary Clinton has proven she cannot be trusted with the most basic security and has surrounded herself with liars, hacks, or worse. Trump should be easy. Democratic Party I do not care who you elect as long as it is not Hillary Clinton. Democratic Party it is up to you (Clinton and Sanders partisans) to sort out this mess. We are at the mercy of unknown forces to save us from a downward spiral into chaos.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
30. This video is from Corey Lewandowski's YouTube page
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:05 AM
May 2016

People are literally posting videos on DU that come directly from the Trump campaign.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
47. This is from MSNBCs website. Are they working for Trump now?
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:50 PM
May 2016

Well maybe they are come to think of it. Every time I turn on MS NBC they are talking about Trump.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
48. No it's not, it's from Corey Lewandowski's YouTube page
Sat May 28, 2016, 03:56 PM
May 2016

MSNBC doesn't name it's videos: "MSNBC host GRILLS hack Clinton surrogate over phony email talking points".

The Trump campaign does that.

This is where the video in the OP comes from:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA3WTX5cvWVpHjVIvzZdOgA

That is Corey Lewandowski's YouTube page.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
54. No, it's not. Click on the YouTube video in your own OP.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:21 PM
May 2016

Click on the word "YouTube" in the bottom right corner of the video you posted.

It takes you to Corey Lewandowski's YouTube page.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
51. So your ad hominen attack makes it invalid? That's pathetic.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

You Hillary fans will do anything to cover for Her Majesty.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
56. Not at all
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:23 PM
May 2016

I am not claiming anything about the validity of the video.

I am just expressing surprise and dismay that someone would post a video off of Corey Lewandowski's YouTube page.

He is, after all, the campaign manager for Donald Trump.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
35. If he is the best that team Hillary can provide
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:28 AM
May 2016

her campaign is doomed.

Boy, that was painfully awkward.

yourpaljoey

(2,166 posts)
45. Exactly. The Theatre of the Absurd.
Sat May 28, 2016, 09:56 AM
May 2016

At least he got a chance to use the artifices taught in Logical Fallacies 201.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
52. Isn't this the same group that tagged her "Mrs. Greenspan?"
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:13 PM
May 2016

Now she's the 'talented Andrea Mitchell.'

'Confirmation bias' indeed, Dilbert!

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
53. Hill says-operating an off the grid server done to ensure her privacy in regards to personal life.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:21 PM
May 2016

What could be so secret about her personal life that it was more important to guard than national security?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
58. The best way to guard her "personal life" would have been to host
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:27 PM
May 2016

personal and work emails separately. Fine, use a home-brew server for your private life if you want, but leave work at work.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
55. That was embarrassing. You've got to give him credit though, he stuck to the script.
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:23 PM
May 2016

We I was kid, the "Mom, everyone else did it too!" excuse never, ever worked. The Hillary campaign never grew up.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
57. All the Same Talking Points
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

Everyone that has come out to defend Hillary whether on air or in writing has used all of the same talking points. This is circling the wagons, folks. These people also forget that all of us have access to this report. We can read it for ourselves. It's a lot harder to spin when we can see the actual report and we know you aren't telling the truth.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
60. Why are people posting videos from Donald Trump's campaign manager's YouTube page?
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:29 PM
May 2016

With a title created by Lewandowski himself.

MSNBC host GRILLS hack Clinton surrogate over phony email talking points – [VIDEO]
Corey Lewandowski

Published on May 27, 2016
Today on her show, Andrea Mitchell grilled Clinton Democrat hack surrogate Adam Schiff who tries to play down the email scandal with phony talking points. But Mitchell didn’t let him get away with it, correcting him a couple of times on the facts versus his spin.

You know it’s funny. Mitchell, who did a good job of making sure her viewers knew the actual facts, would probably never have done this with Hillary herself. Hillary would have made sure of that.

But hey, I guess we’ll take what we can get.

Source of OP video: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA3WTX5cvWVpHjVIvzZdOgA

DU ought to, at the very least, not have OP's that link to the Trump campaign manager's websites.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
62. Andrea Mitchell : Does it look like it's raining?
Sat May 28, 2016, 04:33 PM
May 2016


Mr. Schiff : Well, I wouldn't call that rain, perhaps precipitation or a light mist.
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