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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:05 AM May 2016

Could they want DWS out to put in an Obama/Biden puppet?

Wouldn't that make it easier to make Biden the nominee (implement the rumored plan B)?

And of course Bernie and his supporters would be blamed. That does seem to be a central theme this cycle.

Note: Biden and Obama have come to DWS defense (they even scroll that fact on the propaganda channels). So if Clinton was forced out (though that is kind of hard to envision) I guess that might win her allegiance. Seeing someone defend Ms. Payday Lender does make you go hmmm...



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Could they want DWS out to put in an Obama/Biden puppet? (Original Post) Skwmom May 2016 OP
Ridiculous. cali May 2016 #1
Why is it ridiculous? A consistent rumor has been that Biden is the plan B. Wouldn't it be easier Skwmom May 2016 #3
No one wants DWS out. fun n serious May 2016 #2
I assure you this is not true. Chan790 May 2016 #4
It won't be done during an election when people are trying to use it for political gain of the DNC fun n serious May 2016 #6
Well I guess by raising the issue of replacing DWS and Biden and Obama coming to her rescue Skwmom May 2016 #8
Clinton will not be forced out fun n serious May 2016 #9
"DWS allience (sic) is with LOYAL dems"... ljm2002 May 2016 #15
We talked about this and you know my position but NWCorona May 2016 #13
Maybe that's why they've come to the defense of Ms. Payday Lender at a time when the voting Skwmom May 2016 #14
So if they want to enact the rumored plan B (with Biden heading the ticket) DWS would Skwmom May 2016 #5
I do not want a change during an election nt fun n serious May 2016 #7
Do you also favor Pay Day Lenders? Bluenorthwest May 2016 #19
Almost everyone wants her out. She's part of why Hillary has lost every State that has legalized Bluenorthwest May 2016 #10
Payday lenders prey on the most vulnerable. It's like saying we want your vote but damned if we'll Skwmom May 2016 #16
And the OP seems hesitant to endorse Debbie's positions or even to offer reasons the OP favors Bluenorthwest May 2016 #17
Something like that, without the invective against all Democrats (except Hillary) leveymg May 2016 #11
We know who the puppet is. Thinkingabout May 2016 #12
Hillary. liberalnarb May 2016 #18
Here's the running (British/Irish bookies): Ghost Dog May 2016 #20
those aren't really probabilities but payoffs determined by how much money is laid each way GreatGazoo May 2016 #21
Yep, betting odds on the Dem nomination. Ghost Dog May 2016 #22
And one time, at band camp ... JoePhilly May 2016 #23

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
3. Why is it ridiculous? A consistent rumor has been that Biden is the plan B. Wouldn't it be easier
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

if they had their own puppet heading the DNC?

Maybe the accolades from Obama and Biden are considered sufficient to bring her to their side but maybe not?

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
4. I assure you this is not true.
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:09 AM
May 2016

I have friends from college that are Congressional staffers, some of them very high up in that regard...there are a lot of elected Democrats in federal-level office that just outright want her gone from the DNC and wouldn't be sad to see her shuffled out of Congress too.

You're very committed to the delusion that there is no Democratic call for her to be shit-canned. I'm starting to wonder if you work for DWS...or are DWS.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
6. It won't be done during an election when people are trying to use it for political gain of the DNC
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:11 AM
May 2016

chair

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
8. Well I guess by raising the issue of replacing DWS and Biden and Obama coming to her rescue
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:16 AM
May 2016

that could switch her allegiance to them (if Clinton is somehow forced out).

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
15. "DWS allience (sic) is with LOYAL dems"...
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:29 AM
May 2016

...that statement is both funny and unserious.

Remember: we are talking about a Democratic politician who declined to support DEMOCRATIC candidates for office in her own state, and who in fact did photo ops with and campaigned for REPUBLICAN candidates. Because they were "her friends". And you would have us believe that she defines what it means to be a loyal Democrat?

Puhleeze.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
13. We talked about this and you know my position but
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:22 AM
May 2016

I have to agree with this. I can't seeing Obama or the DNC giving DWS the hook right in the middle of an election. That's unless there's something we don't know.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
14. Maybe that's why they've come to the defense of Ms. Payday Lender at a time when the voting
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:28 AM
May 2016

public is fed up with politicians who work against their interests. They won't replace her they'll just get her allegiance.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
5. So if they want to enact the rumored plan B (with Biden heading the ticket) DWS would
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:09 AM
May 2016

have no problems with that?
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. Do you also favor Pay Day Lenders?
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:54 AM
May 2016

I think such lenders should be outlawed, Debbie says such lenders should be protected and assisted in their shakedowns.


So where do you stand on that?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. Almost everyone wants her out. She's part of why Hillary has lost every State that has legalized
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:19 AM
May 2016

cannabis, such as our own. Debbie is a Drug Warrior. Debbie has supported Republicans over Democrats because the Republicans are her friends. Debbie strongly supports and seeks legislation favorable to Pay Day Lenders who are predators exploiting the economically vulnerable in this country. These positions are not favored in this Party.
Worse, under her 'leadership' we have lost the House, the Senate and many State Houses and Governor's offices. Even if her policies were golden, her results are an indictment of her abilities.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
16. Payday lenders prey on the most vulnerable. It's like saying we want your vote but damned if we'll
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:31 AM
May 2016

protect you from predators like pay day lenders.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
17. And the OP seems hesitant to endorse Debbie's positions or even to offer reasons the OP favors
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:47 AM
May 2016

her. Predatory lenders taking advantage of the poor does not even bring a response. The OP just ignores that fact, ignores both the victims and their plight in order to just talk around that massive issue.
If the OP really supported Debbie, the OP would defend her positions. The OP needs to come out in favor of Pay Day Lenders or admit that there is an issue on the table regarding Debbie.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
11. Something like that, without the invective against all Democrats (except Hillary)
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:19 AM
May 2016

DWS is one her way out, so is her mentor.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
21. those aren't really probabilities but payoffs determined by how much money is laid each way
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:22 AM
May 2016

Are those for becoming the nominee at the DNC or being the Dem candidate in November? If the latter, then a bet against Hillary seems attractive since so many things can (and already have) happened this year.

(modified) Irish saying: "There's nary a man alive who can survive by betting on nominees under 9/5"

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
22. Yep, betting odds on the Dem nomination.
Thu May 26, 2016, 02:22 PM
May 2016

As you say ... interesting ... A €100 punt on Biden would return €4000 ...

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