Jeff Weaver: Barbara Boxer lied about feeling threatened

[J_J_]

Bernie Sanders’ campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, said Tuesday he doesn’t think Barbara Boxer is telling the whole truth on what went down in Nevada.

On CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360, Weaver told host John Berman that he doubted the California senator's version of events during the 2016 Nevada Democratic State Convention on May 14, because of a video that surfaced from the convention. Weaver said it shows Boxer was definitely not in fear of the crowd.

“I don't want to see Sen. Barbara Boxer walking off the stage claiming she's in fear of her life while she's contemptuously blowing kisses at Sanders supporters,” Weaver said to Berman. “No, absolutely not.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/jeff-weaver-barbara-boxer-nevada-sanders-223547#ixzz49dgCtvsY

[Tarc]

1. "Bernie Sanders’ campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, said..."

That's where we stop reading.

[jane123]

4. And that why you don't know

what you don't know because reality can be scary.

[Tarc]

7. That's why most people will have zero fucks to give about the opposition's opinion on the matter

The Bern's own campaign manager will hardly be a pillar of objectivity.

[Buddyblazon]

71. "I'm terrified of this crowd...

I think I'll go out there and troll them."...said nobody ever.

[Logical]

90. LOL, and YOU are? You are one of the rudest hill suporters here. nt

[grossproffit]

11. Reality? Surely, you jest.

[liberalnarb]

16. Well, she did lie. People who are in fear for their lives don't go around blowing kisses and

flipping the bird. Sorry but she was quite obviously full of it.

[metroins]

30. She had armed security

You don't usually get armed security unless there is fear.

But doesn't matter anyway, Bernies campaign is over. Jeff Weaver is just milking the last few dollars.

[NWCorona]

36. What? Barbara has a security detail where ever she goes.

[Ned_Devine]

76. She's a US Senator...they get armed security regardless. Especially at events

[bettyellen]

70. Snopes disagrees with you- she never said in fear of her life....

And it was her damned index finger. She'd been waving the same finger the whole time.
Weaver is an idiot to call attention to the whole thing.

[apcalc]

83. that's your truth

Maybe not hers.
You don't know.

[bjo59]

88. Exactly.

[liberalnarb]

14. Ignorance is bliss, huh?

[pengu]

2. The whole thing was staged by Clinton operative like Boxer

They intentionally incited the Bernie supporters by cheating. Then they tried to make it a "Dean Scream" moment. Too bad for them so many are on to their bullshit.

[B Calm]

8. They did it all in preparation for the contested Democratic Convention

trying to paint Bernie delegates as disruptors.

[TimPlo]

55. Yup because we need someone like Biden to swoop in and save the DNC

from evil Sanders bullies. Once Clinton drops out because of FBI issue. The DNC corruption can not let Sanders get it no matter what. If he becomes POTUS there are millions of dollars that will be lost if he is able to change campaign laws.

[riversedge]

15. oh my. The Bernie Bubble has hit you hard!

[riversedge]

3. Jeff Weaver looks like the fool he is for saying that. Shame of him. Emotions are real.

[Atman]

9. Yes, I always blow kisses...

...to people "throwing chairs" at me. I've always like Barbara Boxer, but her story does seem a bit exaggerated.

[liberalnarb]

17. Shame on him for stating the obvious? That people who are afraid for their lives don't blow kisses

or flip birds?

[cui bono]

87. And words are not always true. Shame on those to whome that applies.

[stonecutter357]

5. Jeff Weaver condescending shit.

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. What is wrong with this guy?

Good God.

[grossproffit]

12. They're going to run out of kitchen sinks to throw.

[grossproffit]

10. BS is going for broke.

[leftynyc]

13. Keep going after the popular

CA Senator, Mr. Weaver. It's a winning strategy.

[liberalnarb]

18. Thats the best part

about Bernie's campaign, they tell the truth and stand up for what is right even when it is not popular!

[leftynyc]

19. That's some spin

you've got there. Let's see how CA responds.

[liberalnarb]

23. Spin?

Oh, no. I just have a working pair of eyes. Eyes that saw someone who claimed to be in fear for her life blowing kisses and antagonizing the people she claims to be afraid of.

[TwilightZone]

37. "fear for her life"

Source? She didn't say she feared for her life.

Speaking of spin....

[liberalnarb]

65. Whether she said fear for her life or safety.

She was lying.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. He is picking a fight with the wrong Boxer.

[sufrommich]

21. I'm sure dissing Barbara Boxer

will play well in CA. Not.

[oberliner]

22. She never said she feared for her life

She said she feared for her safety.

[liberalnarb]

24. Whether she "feared for her safety" or "feared for her life."

She wouldn't be walking off stage blowing kisses and flipping the bird. This is obvious.

[pinebox]

26. Actually it was her index finger

[liberalnarb]

27. Oh sure whatever you say.

[pinebox]

31. I'm being honest with you.

It was. Unless she has 6 fingers.
I can't stand her but telling the truth is something we need to adhere to.

http://www.snopes.com/barbara-boxer-gave-bernie-sanders-supporters-the-finger/

[hootinholler]

49. Nobody wags their finger

Like that with the palm facing themselves. No one bites their lower lip defiantly like she did when wagging a finger.

She flipped off the crowd.

[pinebox]

50. Well Snopes says otherwise and looking at the photo

it's her index finger. Odd though, that's for sure

[hootinholler]

53. Looking at the photo one of those bumps they label knuckles

Could be her thumb, depending on the angle of the shot.

Judging from the body language in the video, she flipped the bird.

[dreamnightwind]

85. I agree

The hand is palm-up, when you point it is pretty much always palm-down, this was a flip-off.

[fancypants75]

81. So what's the possible explanation?

She flipped the bird with her index finger because she knew she was being filmed, or as a way to self censor like saying "oh shoot" instead of "oh shit"? Does it matter what finger it is if the intent is the same? She's definitely not pointing at anything...

[TwilightZone]

38. If one has to lie to make a point...

one makes a point, just not the one one thought one was making.

[oberliner]

63. Not seeing how those two are mutually exclusive

In tense situations, a person can respond in a myriad of ways. Often when one fears for one's safety, one makes a deliberate point of not showing that fear.

[pinebox]

25. You are correct

but who flips their index finger? Odd.

[oberliner]

64. In tense situations, a person can respond in a myriad of ways

She could have been deliberately trying to act like she wasn't afraid in order to mask her fear.

[NCTraveler]

28. Weaver opens his mouth and another progressive is attacked.

[riversedge]

29. Will the REAL Jeff Weaver please shut up!

Will the REAL Jeff Weaver please shut up!

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/24/1530154/-Will-the-REAL-Jeff-Weaver-please-shut-up
By Murfster35

Tuesday May 24, 2016 · 10:00 AM CST




.............But enough is enough, and I’ve finally reached my breaking point. Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver really, really needs to just pack it in, shut the fuck up and go home now. His shtick just isn’t funny anymore.

In the early days it was fine,...................

But he has steadily deteriorated in the last few weeks. A couple of weeks ago he was on MSNBC on a primary night. Steve Kornacki skewered him like a cow on a spit, dragging him over to the “big board” and going through the delegate math, including the remainder of the primaries. Weaver stood there stone faced, then repeatedly insisted that there was a path forward. When Kornacki pressed him to reset the map and show everybody where this magical path lay, he fell back om the same old, tired bullshit mantra of flipping the super delegates. How in the hell an insurgent, outsider candidate was supposed to flip long time, dedicated Democratic members (which is how you get to be a super delegate) was apparently a high level campaign secret.

Over the last couple of weeks, he has jumped with both feet on the “conspiracy” bandwagon, railing against the unfairness of the super delegate system, and claiming that the entire Democratic primary process was completely rigged against his candidate. Gee, sound like any particular GOP Presidential candidate we’ve heard from lately? Then he came out and directly accused the DNC of having “thrown shade” all over his campaign since the day Sanders announced, forcing Tad Devine to come out and disavow him, stating that for the most part the campaign had had very good relations with the DNC, and all the access they needed.

..........................

Last night Jeff Weaver appeared on “Hardball” with Chris Matthews and was nothing short of delusional. He continued to rail against the rules and the super delegates, but overlaid his desire for reform in future cycles with inferences that instituting those changes now could somehow overturn the current results. It reached the point that both Tweety and the other guest (I don’t recall his name) were smiling at his almost constant self contradictions and inability to answer a question in a straightforward and honest manner. Even Weaver had a wry smile towards the end, as if conceding the fact that he was full of shit, but was going to through this one way or the other.


Jeff Weaver is clearly no longer either useful or functional. He is without a doubt a diehard Sanders loyalist, but he is no longer helping. What Jeff Weaver really needs to do now is to go home, soak a cool washcloth, go into a dark room, lie down and put the cloth on his forehead. Let people who actually know how to function in a reality based world take it from here, and thanks for your faithful service.

[Dem2]

32. Jeff Weaver is a troll

I can't take him seriously- he should quit

[disillusioned73]

33. And giving the finger..

let's not forget that one..

let me add this before someone says - wheres the proof.. here you go

http://sourceplanet.net/politics/video-barbara-boxer-flipping-off-bernie-supporters-nv-convention/

[TwilightZone]

39. Unless Boxer has six fingers, that's not her middle finger.

http://www.snopes.com/barbara-boxer-gave-bernie-sanders-supporters-the-finger/

The funny thing is that it's even more obvious that it's her index finger in the screenshot of the video you posted.

[TwilightZone]

34. Looks like targeting Boxer right before the CA primary might not have been terribly bright...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2046185

[Bobbie Jo]

35. Keep it up, Weaver.

Smarmy.

[MineralMan]

40. Jeff Weaver says stuff...

[bigtree]

41. weaver is a lying pos

...caught in repeated lies.

[auntpurl]

42. That is...quite a strategy two weeks before the California primary

To flat out say that stalwart Democratic senator, elder stateswoman, well-respected member of the party Barbara Boxer is a liar.

I do wonder how some Bernie supporters can be threatening to boycott Planned Parenthood, calling Barbara Boxer a liar, harassing Elizabeth Warren simply for NOT endorsing Sanders, and in favour of disenfranchising millions of POC voters by flipping SDs to Bernie at the convention, and still claim to be at the vanguard of a progressive movement.

[Lil Missy]

43. Jeff Weaver is a liar and a jackass. n/t

[Fresh_Start]

44. At that time, she was surrounded by security guards..

so of course then she didn't feel threatened.
But why did the security guards surround her?

And how do you know who she was blowing kisses to?
Weren't there other non-Bernie supporters in the room: people who supported Clinton for example?

[TheKentuckian]

46. Doesn't matter since whoever she is blowing kisses to it doesn't support being in fear.

This was orchestrated and intentional shenanigans. Boxer should be ashamed.

[Fresh_Start]

47. so after she was surrounded by 4 or more guards she didn't feel in fear

and you think that the security team felt the need to surround her should be ignored?

[Logical]

91. FFS is this a bunch of made up drama. nt

[vintx]

45. She taunted Bernie supporters from onstage and off.

If you're afraid of someone you don't continually provoke and escalate.

She's a shameless fucking liar.

[Lizzie Poppet]

56. Precisely. People who are fearful don't commonly taunt those they claim to be in fear of.

She's full of shit.

[vintx]

57. And jabbing WHATEVER finger it was... there's no mystery about that gesture

She was not afraid at all, she's just yet ANOTHER liar

Seems to be a lot of hateful shameless liars associated with that campaign

[Lizzie Poppet]

58. Agreed.

And that Snopes article was disappointing, to say the least. That interpretation of a vague,grainy image was...shall we say "generous?"

[vintx]

61. Yep, they avoided being as full of shit as the M$M by using "metaphorical"

Apparently that went over the heads of Hillary's acolytes ... unsurprisingly

[TwilightZone]

59. Sanders jabs fingers at people all of the time

What do his gestures mean? Since it's no mystery, I guess his intent is the same as Boxer's.

[vintx]

60. Weak. You have eyes and a brain. Use them nt

[HooptieWagon]

48. Clinton surrogate lies.

Water is wet.

[Starry Messenger]

51. Jeff Weaver. LOL.

[redstateblues]

54. Picking Weaver to run his campaign shows what kind of

People Bernie chooses to be around him. Incompetent, abrasive and out of touch with reality.

[seabeyond]

52. Did Weaver say Boxer lied, or is that your lie in the Title?

[JudyM]

66. Weaver was just pressed, on CNN, whether Boxer "lied" and he expressly declined to say that.

[seabeyond]

68. Thank you.

[amborin]

62. totally choreographed, like all previous smears; & people working 2 hard 2 have time 2 learn truth

[DemocratSinceBirth]

67. One can be alternatively fearful and contemptuous. They are not mutually exclusive.

Only a dullard would suggest they are.

When we were kids this clown was shooting buck shot at us. We were shooting him the bird as we ran away.

[Waiting For Everyman]

69. Wow, someone challenging the lies on national media.

How shocking is that!

Boxer should be ashamed of herself. And that poor excuse for a Nevada party chairwoman is beyond words.

Apparently it's too much to ask for the party to run a fair election and do it on the issues. All they can manage to do time after time, is lie, pull phony stunts, trot out participation excluding technicalities, and rig the vote.

And then have the nerve to say, "we have the votes, she wins". Lol! It would be funny if it weren't so stupid, as well as dangerous in the context of Trump.

Thank you, Jeff for standing up for the trampled on truth! His articulate clarity, and no bullshit professionalism stand in stark contrast to the rest of this mess we laughingly call spokespeople. I wish we had a dozen more like him.

[NorthCarolina]

72. Of course she did. She was safely positioned behind a line of Brown Shirts with guns.

Why else would she have had the courage to do her "You're Booing Bernie, you're booing Bernie", and then proceed to flip off Bernie supporters like any self respecting establishment mouthpiece would do.

[AzDar]

73. Boxer should be ashamed of herself... LIES.

[reddread]

74. another victim of the credibility vortex

wont somebody do something?

[wildeyed]

75. They are using their campaign manager as a surrogate for this mess?

Usually they keep better distance between the campaign and the dirty fighting. It's not seemly or presidential for such a close associate of the candidate to be calling a popular Senator of the same party a liar. Makes you wonder about the leadership abilities of the actual candidate. Jeff Weaver is a total train wreck.

[itsrobert]

77. I'm sure after attacking Boxer, California super delegates will flock to Bernie

[JoePhilly]

80. And these fools can't figure out why they are losing.

[Thinkingabout]

78. The real lie is by Weaver, he is not an expert on determining if Barbara Boxer

is lying. If he would place as much concern to the real problem of the actions of those attending the Nevada convention and correct the problems there then perhaps he would not have to explain anything. Quit lying, Weaver.

[Vote2016]

79. TYPO IN YOUR OP - Video: Barbara Boxer lied about feeling threatened

Fixed it for you. YW

[Jitter65]

82. So tell us all, Jeff how we feel, when feel, and what we feel. nt

[mhatrw]

84. She was so damn scared, she just couldn't HELP but be dismissively demeaning!

[snowy owl]

86. You don't taunt if you're feeling threatened. Get real people.

When Berman asked Weaver if he thought Boxer was lying, Weaver replied, “I think if you watch the online video, it seems incongruous if somebody was in fear for their life while they're blowing kisses at that opponents. Yes, I think that’s incongruous.”

[Demnorth]

89. Maybe he's trying for damage control.

It's no surprise. He's biased, he has an opinion...pretty much as expected.

[ucrdem]

92. More of this please! Let's make California the biggest Clinton victory ever!

[J_J_]

93. kick

nt

[Uncle Joe]

94. The video belies Boxer's assertion and prior to her blowing kisses, she clearly worked to antagonize

the crowd while at the podium.

Thanks for the thread, J_J_.

[madokie]

95. Amazing how far the mighty can fall

I used to have a lot of respect for her. Once a person lies to me I'm no longer a real friend whether it be in my real world or in the political realm