2016 Postmortem

2016-05-25T0:31:41+00:00

So Bernies still at it, telling George Stephanopoulos on Sunday that he thinks its not impossible for him to get 70 percent of the vote in every remaining state. Impossible. If anyones likely to hit 70 anywhere, its Hillary Clinton in Puerto Rico. Maybe Sanders can do it in the Dakotas, but even that seems ludicrous, because those states have primaries, not caucuses, and hes never won a primary by that kind of margin except in his home state. -snip- But I dont know a single person whose opinions I really value, and I include here Sanders supporters I know, who takes these polls seriously. Theres one simple reason Sanders polls better against Trump than Clinton does, which is that no one (yet) knows anything negative about him. Hes gotten the freest ride a top-tier presidential candidate has ever gotten. The freest, bar none. While hes all but called Clinton a harlot, shes barely said a word about him, at least since the very early days of the contest. And while Republicans have occasionally jibed at him, like Lindsey Grahams actually quite funny remark that Sanders went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon and I dont think he ever came back, in far more serious ways, Republican groups have worked to help Sanders weaken Clinton. That would change on a dime if he became the nominee. I dont think theyd even have to go into his radical past, although they surely would. Michelle Goldberg of Slate has written good pieces on this. He took some very hard-left and plainly anti-American positions. True, they might not matter to anyone under 45, but more than half of all voters are over 45. And then, big-P politics aside, theres all that farkakte nonsense he wrote in The Vermont Freeman in the early 70s about how we should let children touch each others genitals and such. Fine, it was 40-plus years ago but its out there, and its out there. The rest: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/24/bernie-sanders-is-crushing-donald-trump-head-to-head-and-it-doesn-t-mean-a-thing.html?via=mobile&source=twitter Also, found on Twitter:

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Is it possible that Sanders hangs on because he thinks that there is some small possibility Tal Vez May 2016 #1

Ego. JaneyVee May 2016 #4

No one likes Hillary or Donald. Only Hillary could find a way to make that race competitive. JRLeft May 2016 #2

Pretty sure she was voted most admired woman in the world 20x. JaneyVee May 2016 #6

Pretty sure you're wrong ... GeorgeGist May 2016 #9

Pretty sure Im right... JaneyVee May 2016 #10

Yet she's tied with Trump, a pile of excrement. JRLeft May 2016 #16

20x is a record, not a tie. JaneyVee May 2016 #18

The presidential poll. JRLeft May 2016 #19

gallup poll says 20x... yawnmaster May 2016 #14

I like the fact tthat Saturday Night Live truedelphi May 2016 #3

So youre claiming guilt without any evidence? JaneyVee May 2016 #7

If Bernie was suspected of even one fourth the things that HRC is suspected of, truedelphi May 2016 #8

lolwut? JaneyVee May 2016 #11

Could it be possible that Bernie supporters do not want him to drop out because we jillan May 2016 #5

Maybe he can run again in 2020. JaneyVee May 2016 #15

Still having a sad over Bernie? AgingAmerican May 2016 #12

Sad over Bernie for what? LOL. Where do you guys get this stuff? JaneyVee May 2016 #17

DU rec...nt SidDithers May 2016 #13

Tal Vez

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1. Is it possible that Sanders hangs on because he thinks that there is some small possibility

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:34 PM

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that a case will be brought against Clinton?

JaneyVee

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4. Ego.

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:39 PM

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JRLeft

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2. No one likes Hillary or Donald. Only Hillary could find a way to make that race competitive.

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:36 PM

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JaneyVee

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6. Pretty sure she was voted most admired woman in the world 20x.

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:39 PM

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GeorgeGist

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9. Pretty sure you're wrong ...

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:46 PM

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and last time was 13%.

JaneyVee

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10. Pretty sure Im right...

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:49 PM

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/187922/clinton-admired-woman-record-20th-time.aspx

JRLeft

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16. Yet she's tied with Trump, a pile of excrement.

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:54 PM

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JaneyVee

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18. 20x is a record, not a tie.

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:54 PM

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JRLeft

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19. The presidential poll.

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:56 PM

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yawnmaster

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14. gallup poll says 20x...

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:51 PM

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http://www.gallup.com/poll/187922/clinton-admired-woman-record-20th-time.aspx

truedelphi

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3. I like the fact tthat Saturday Night Live

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:39 PM

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presciently told off Stephanopolous and The Daily Beast.

Their intro skit was hilarious and very well written.

And the fact that both the SNL Hillary and The Bern understood "It is all rigged" means a lot to someone whose indie days as a reporter taught her that it is indeed all rigged.

If there was any fairness at all in our system, the CNN's, ABC's and NBC's and MSNBC's would be shouting it to the heavens that HRC has violated US Civil Code relating to state secrets. And the fact that she could well be implicated in money laundering and worse yet due to how the news media is not news any more means that so many here don't understand what her days at State Dept were spent doing.

JaneyVee

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7. So youre claiming guilt without any evidence?

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:41 PM

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How exactly is that progressive?

truedelphi

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8. If Bernie was suspected of even one fourth the things that HRC is suspected of,

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Tue May 24, 2016, 08:43 PM

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Yes we would hear about it 24/7, non stop. with graphics about "State Department Gate," every time they broke for commercials.

And the guilt I am assigning is for the news media, or can't you read?