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dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:52 PM May 2016

Bernie has no coattails

the one WV gubernatorial candidate who had endorsed Bernie came in 3rd out of 3

the guy isn't some fringe candidate; he's served as the president of the state senate and has been minority leader the past two sessions

the guy who won the nomination can be considered a DINO, a term I hate to use

I wonder if the 40% of Bernie voters who said that they'd vote for Trump in the fall gave the winner their votes for governor

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
5. During the last administration the party has lost
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:59 PM
May 2016

900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats.

We have one candidate who is promising more of the same policies. This doesn't seem like a recipe to grow the party.

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
4. No coattails
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:58 PM
May 2016

And no real path to the nomination.
So the coattails part doesn't matter.

Bernie is finished unless you're using Berniemath.
You know....where 20 is larger than 100.

Bernie doesn't need coattails since Hillary
is our nominee.

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GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
12. according to you guys, people will spend hours changing parties and waiting to vote in closed
Thu May 12, 2016, 08:33 AM
May 2016

primaries just to vote AGAINST Hillary.

That ain't coattails -- That's serious baggage.

thesquanderer

(11,972 posts)
15. Dem coattails in November is based on turnout for the Dem candidate.
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:03 AM
May 2016

Whoever would turn out more votes in November will tend to bring more Dems along with him/her.

I don't know enough about the WV gov primary to know what else might have been in play, but it is at least safe to assume that the fact that this candidate endorsed Sanders was not mentioned on the ballot. We don't know how many voters even knew about that endorsement, much less what other factors in the gov rave may have been.

In the general, people tend to pick downticket people who match the party of their presidential pick. Primaries are more complicated, because all the downticket options match the party of their presidential pick.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
16. And who won the WV Democratic Primary for Governor?
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:13 AM
May 2016

Jim Justice — coal operator, resort owner, political newcomer and West Virginia’s richest man — won the Democratic primary for governor Tuesday, riding a campaign message of optimism and personal business success, fueled by millions of dollars of his own money.

Justice’s win vaults a businessman with virtually no experience in elected office (just one brief stint on the Raleigh County Board of Education nearly two decades ago) to the highest stage in West Virginia politics.

He handily defeated former U.S. Attorney Booth Goodwin and state Senate Minority Leader Jeff Kessler, neither of whom could compete financially with the billionaire coal and agriculture magnate.
http://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/20160510/justice-wins-democratic-race-for-wv-governor

So he's got no experience but he's super rich and a coal guy. Coattails or Coaltails?

It is worth noting that Jim Justice refused to endorse Hillary while attacking Bernie Sanders. He stood with neither one, he stood alone with his $$.

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