2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPolitico: Bernie Has Been Mathematically Eliminated from Winning With Pledged Delegates
In sports, when you're mathematically eliminated, you go home. You don't hang around the stadium.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/math-says-bernie-sanders-is-finished-222775
hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)Yavin4
(35,427 posts)nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)requisite number of delegates is reached. On to convention.
Yavin4
(35,427 posts)CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Unrec
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)Again, there is this misconception that voters choose the nominee. They do not. Delegates do. If Hillary fails to secure a majority of all the delegates, then under the rules, the choice of nominee can be made by the superdelegates:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/04/politics/bernie-sanders-delegate-math-hillary-clinton/
It is mathematically impossible for Bernie Sanders to win enough delegates in the remaining Democratic contests to secure the nomination, but his aides see a path through a convention battle in Philadelphia that would target the party's superdelegates.
The Democratic nominee must win 2,383 delegates to secure the nomination, but with only 933 delegates up for grabs in the remaining contests, it is impossible for Sanders to get there just by winning contests against front-runner Hillary Clinton. The Vermont senator has racked up 1,444 delegates, according to the latest CNN delegate tally, but would need to win more than 100% of the remaining delegates.
Asked about this hurdle Wednesday, Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver dismissed it.
"The truth is, no one is going to the convention with the requisite number of pledged delegates to win. The superdelegates are going to decide this race," Weaver said on CNN's "New Day."
Sparkly
(24,149 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)And Sinatra had talent.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Neither can reach 2383 pledged delegates.
While Clinton is closer to a majority of total pledged delegates (2076), upcoming states favor Sanders, including semi-open primary California with 476 delegates.
riversedge
(70,177 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Gothmog
(145,046 posts)Sanders is lying to his supporters to keep the small dollar donations coming. It is very sad
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)and so on, and so on, and so on.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)or a majority of total delegates.
Kind of a stupid and pointless op.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)He would be the pledged delegate winner and the supers would push him to the nomination.
Jon Ace
(243 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)and the Rich Bastards that have brought us 50,000,000 Americans living in poverty. We will fight on.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)onenote
(42,660 posts)Sanders needs to get less than 30 percent of the remaining delegates to make it impossible for Clinton to get to 2383 with pledged delegates alone. It is a virtual lock that he will get to that number.
Of course, whether he does or doesn't is irrelevant. Its been clear for some time that neither candidate would win based on pledged delegates alone nor is there any special significance to the fact that they won't. The winner will get there with a combination of pledged and super delegates and at the moment there is no reason to think it won't be Clinton.
But both will have been "mathematically eliminated" from winning with only pledged delegates.
Sometimes Hillary supporters' math is as bad as Sanders' supporters.
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)lancer78
(1,495 posts)Lost in 2008 to an unknown freshman Senator from Illinois.
Stayed married to a chronic cheater husband.
Partly responsible for IWR, causing thousands of deaths.
And in 2016, even with hundreds of millions of dollars, the MSM, and over 500 super-delegates, she is only beating a Senator from Vermont who had become a Democrat 6 months earlier and has the word Socialist in his party affiliation by less then 10% of pledged delegates.
lancer78
(1,495 posts)should have left the stadium in 2008 since it was mathematically impossible for him to win with pledged delegates as well.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Let's finish it the way the rules specify, shall we?
jfern
(5,204 posts)And how many have changed thus far?
I see a lot of discussion here about SDs who threw their support behind Hillary at the outset, and therefore didn't consider Bernie. Well, they could have changed their allegiance at any time during Bernie's campaign, if they'd had second thoughts about their initial backing of Hillary.
So how many SDs have changed from HRC to BS during that time?
merrily
(45,251 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)pat_k
(9,313 posts)It ain't over 'til it's over:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511899803