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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/28/1151819/-Anonymous-gives-warning-to-Karl-Rove ...SNIP... This will be a short diary. I just ran across this video from Anonymous warning Karl Rove and his Crossroads group not to "rig" the election. They claim they are watching his servers. I don't believe the election can be rigged as some do with voting machines. I do like the idea of an independent Anonymous keeping an eye on Rove. ..SNIP...aquart
(69,014 posts)Drop bits of info about personal habits and private conversations.
Perhaps it's horribly wrong, but I would like little Karly to know fear.
I recently read a biography of Rove which went into detail about his involvement in the Bush/Kerry Ohio mess as well as a bunch of state elections. Rove insulates himself by acting through intermediaries . I would love for Anonymous to bust his ass.
Brewinblue
(392 posts)Simply, effing awesome.
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)This is great news to wake up to! Now, see if he's still pals with Jeff Gannon.
judesedit
(4,437 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)That's not Anon
davidn3600
(6,342 posts)The real Anonymous is not likely to associate themselves with a political party. They are more anti-government than anything.
Of course it doesnt stop some rogue guy from doing it on his own.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)might care about a cheating slimeball like Rove getting away with stealing an election.
drm604
(16,230 posts)Anonymous is pretty much anyone who wants to call themselves Anonymous, so in a sense this is as much Anonymous as anyone else who claims the name.
And I don't believe for one moment that they'll be able to reveal election fraud. They may find statistical anomalies in election results but plenty of people are already looking for that. Unfortunately, such findings in the past have been ignored.
Regarding associating themselves with a party. While I think this video is basically bogus, wanting to maintain an honest election shouldn't be considered partisan.
drm604
(16,230 posts)No way is "anonymous" monitoring traffic on "all of their servers" as they claim. I'm not even sure what is meant by "all the servers". Web servers? Tabulators?
If it's possble to access "all of their servers" then the election is vulnerable to any number of parties, including foreign governments.
If they're talking about simply watching online elections returns for anomalies, then I'm all for that but I'm sure that there are much more mainstream and respected groups already doing that.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)If the voting machines connect somewhere over the net, you can see the traffic, if you are on the route between the machines, with the proper tools. Whether Anonymous is in a position to DO that is much more questionable.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Then:
1) We're screwed.
and
2) Lots of people need to be fired.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Not that I disagree with you. It is ludicrous, fatuous, nuts, to put the fate of the nation at the mercy of the internet, which is insecure by design, and for very good reasons.
And yes, I'd fire them all, anybody that thinks this is anything but stupid.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Similar in concept to a thumbdrive, but with a proprietary interface.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)As I said, I consider them atrocities. However I have seen stories, about Ohio I think it was, that made that claim.
Edit: in the context of card readers I think it was, the Hart-Intercivic(sic?) machines.
drm604
(16,230 posts)It's very questionable that they could be able to monitor all of the traffic on all of those servers. How would you even find the IP addresses?
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Used to run networks, among other things.
You are quite right that it's not a trivial thing.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...These are the people responsible for massive Denial of Service attacks on a wide variety of targets to include major corporations and government agencies. In the past, they have successfully followed through on their threats.
You can ignore them if you want, but if I'm Rove, I'm more than a little nervous.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)We could do it, enough of us, just by sitting here and hitting refresh all day, once you have the proper URL(s). That's pretty much what DEFCON1 here amounts to.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)confident of our cousins capability with many and various LOIC on teh nets.
Walk careful sister
bemildred
(90,061 posts)And anyway, no need. I'm just pointing out the facts. Edit: People think this stuff is fancy, it's nothing of the sort, it's crude as can be.
(PS: I'm a guy.)
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)My GreatGreat Grans name was mildred
bemildred
(90,061 posts)And I'm not giving it up.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Strictly white hat, it was part of my job.
But I'll give you dollars to donuts it's some dumb-ass little script that looks like cussing, Perl, or Python, or whatever the current fad is.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)my friend is the ideal, the screams from the street, the shouts for justice in the dark of night, the sniggering bastard trolls that roll out every racist and homophobic epithet (and a few that you've never heard), the revolutionary keeping net service alive to countries whose governments are bound and determined to destroy connection and communications, they are watchdogs and they are shit disturbers, they're you, they're me, they're all of us.
I always, personally, prefered to define Anon similar to the way Captain Teach defined becoming a pirate - 'Make yourself a flag, declare war on the world.'
Native
(5,935 posts)might there be something on their twitter page about this? Isn't the main guy out of Brazil?
drm604
(16,230 posts)I never said that I know who anonymous is.
I also didn't say anything about ignoring them.
Anthony McCarthy
(507 posts)I wish it was so. I've got no idea of how far people can go in monitoring Rove and his thugs but if anyone deserved to be under that kind of surveillance it's them.
They will try to steal the election, they will have the support of the same media that allowed them to steal it in 2000, they already do. I hope they're keeping track of the thugs on the Supreme Court as well.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)and write-in Anonymous as a candidate. It would be a great way to show how insecure voting machines are.
Footnote:
I am not advocating anyone breaking federal election law Agent Mike.
UCmeNdc
(9,589 posts)I would think they would have to watch for other companies or entities that seem to have no connection to the GOP. The GOP would have outside of their blame computer experts hired to pull off the attack so even if you could connect the dots to an effort to switch votes you could not point to the GOP as the source.
dickthegrouch
(3,151 posts)Are asking "Want to help Romney?"
Grrrrrrrr!