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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 04:08 AM Oct 2012

Anonymous Gives Warning to Karl Rove

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/28/1151819/-Anonymous-gives-warning-to-Karl-Rove ...SNIP... This will be a short diary. I just ran across this video from Anonymous warning Karl Rove and his Crossroads group not to "rig" the election. They claim they are watching his servers. I don't believe the election can be rigged as some do with voting machines. I do like the idea of an independent Anonymous keeping an eye on Rove. ..SNIP...
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Anonymous Gives Warning to Karl Rove (Original Post) octoberlib Oct 2012 OP
I would like them to gaslight little Karly aquart Oct 2012 #1
Me too! octoberlib Oct 2012 #3
Awesome! Brewinblue Oct 2012 #2
Awesome! LeftofObama Oct 2012 #4
Yay! Yippee! Thank you, Anonymous! You nailed it! You give me hope. judesedit Oct 2012 #5
B.S. Coyotl Oct 2012 #6
I doubt this is the real Anonymous davidn3600 Oct 2012 #7
I was thinking the same thing, but I can still hope that even in their anti-government stance, they Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2012 #9
There is no official "anonymous". drm604 Oct 2012 #10
I call BS drm604 Oct 2012 #8
It's possible, network traffic is public. bemildred Oct 2012 #12
If the voting machines are connected to the Internet at all jeff47 Oct 2012 #23
That's how some of them "report" as I understand it. bemildred Oct 2012 #24
All the ones I know of report via removable media jeff47 Oct 2012 #25
I claim no expertise about these machines. bemildred Oct 2012 #26
That's exactly my point. drm604 Oct 2012 #29
I've done it. Played with it. I'm not getting into it here. bemildred Oct 2012 #31
Just curious, but do you know who Anonymous is?.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #13
They could easily DDOS his servers, if they were known, all day long. bemildred Oct 2012 #14
Lets not be too JackInGreen Oct 2012 #15
Oh that would be much too technical, and probably get you in trouble. bemildred Oct 2012 #16
My Apologies JackInGreen Oct 2012 #20
You're not the first, I suppose its my own fault, but I like the name. bemildred Oct 2012 #21
PPS: I have never even looked at the LOIC, and I never would. bemildred Oct 2012 #22
Anonymous JackInGreen Oct 2012 #17
they took GoDaddy down just over a month or so ago. Native Oct 2012 #28
I think you responded to the wrong post. drm604 Oct 2012 #30
Wish it was so, maybe it is Anthony McCarthy Oct 2012 #11
I've often wondered if Anonymous would hack the vote justiceischeap Oct 2012 #18
If they are going to monitor servers UCmeNdc Oct 2012 #19
The 'Ads by Google' coming up with this clip dickthegrouch Oct 2012 #27
Indeterminate. A null set. Equally likely as un-likely. Meaningless. eof patrice Nov 2012 #32

aquart

(69,014 posts)
1. I would like them to gaslight little Karly
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 04:48 AM
Oct 2012

Drop bits of info about personal habits and private conversations.

Perhaps it's horribly wrong, but I would like little Karly to know fear.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
3. Me too!
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 05:06 AM
Oct 2012

I recently read a biography of Rove which went into detail about his involvement in the Bush/Kerry Ohio mess as well as a bunch of state elections. Rove insulates himself by acting through intermediaries . I would love for Anonymous to bust his ass.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
7. I doubt this is the real Anonymous
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:06 AM
Oct 2012

The real Anonymous is not likely to associate themselves with a political party. They are more anti-government than anything.

Of course it doesnt stop some rogue guy from doing it on his own.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
9. I was thinking the same thing, but I can still hope that even in their anti-government stance, they
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:15 AM
Oct 2012

might care about a cheating slimeball like Rove getting away with stealing an election.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
10. There is no official "anonymous".
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:20 AM
Oct 2012

Anonymous is pretty much anyone who wants to call themselves Anonymous, so in a sense this is as much Anonymous as anyone else who claims the name.

And I don't believe for one moment that they'll be able to reveal election fraud. They may find statistical anomalies in election results but plenty of people are already looking for that. Unfortunately, such findings in the past have been ignored.

Regarding associating themselves with a party. While I think this video is basically bogus, wanting to maintain an honest election shouldn't be considered partisan.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
8. I call BS
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:15 AM
Oct 2012

No way is "anonymous" monitoring traffic on "all of their servers" as they claim. I'm not even sure what is meant by "all the servers". Web servers? Tabulators?

If it's possble to access "all of their servers" then the election is vulnerable to any number of parties, including foreign governments.

If they're talking about simply watching online elections returns for anomalies, then I'm all for that but I'm sure that there are much more mainstream and respected groups already doing that.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. It's possible, network traffic is public.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 07:20 AM
Oct 2012

If the voting machines connect somewhere over the net, you can see the traffic, if you are on the route between the machines, with the proper tools. Whether Anonymous is in a position to DO that is much more questionable.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
23. If the voting machines are connected to the Internet at all
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:31 AM
Oct 2012

Then:

1) We're screwed.
and
2) Lots of people need to be fired.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
24. That's how some of them "report" as I understand it.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:39 AM
Oct 2012

Not that I disagree with you. It is ludicrous, fatuous, nuts, to put the fate of the nation at the mercy of the internet, which is insecure by design, and for very good reasons.

And yes, I'd fire them all, anybody that thinks this is anything but stupid.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
25. All the ones I know of report via removable media
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:40 AM
Oct 2012

Similar in concept to a thumbdrive, but with a proprietary interface.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
26. I claim no expertise about these machines.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:43 AM
Oct 2012

As I said, I consider them atrocities. However I have seen stories, about Ohio I think it was, that made that claim.

Edit: in the context of card readers I think it was, the Hart-Intercivic(sic?) machines.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
29. That's exactly my point.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:30 PM
Oct 2012

It's very questionable that they could be able to monitor all of the traffic on all of those servers. How would you even find the IP addresses?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
31. I've done it. Played with it. I'm not getting into it here.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 05:00 PM
Oct 2012

Used to run networks, among other things.
You are quite right that it's not a trivial thing.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
13. Just curious, but do you know who Anonymous is?....
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 07:49 AM
Oct 2012

...These are the people responsible for massive Denial of Service attacks on a wide variety of targets to include major corporations and government agencies. In the past, they have successfully followed through on their threats.

You can ignore them if you want, but if I'm Rove, I'm more than a little nervous.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
14. They could easily DDOS his servers, if they were known, all day long.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 08:04 AM
Oct 2012

We could do it, enough of us, just by sitting here and hitting refresh all day, once you have the proper URL(s). That's pretty much what DEFCON1 here amounts to.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
15. Lets not be too
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 08:14 AM
Oct 2012

confident of our cousins capability with many and various LOIC on teh nets.
Walk careful sister

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
16. Oh that would be much too technical, and probably get you in trouble.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 08:17 AM
Oct 2012

And anyway, no need. I'm just pointing out the facts. Edit: People think this stuff is fancy, it's nothing of the sort, it's crude as can be.

(PS: I'm a guy.)

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
22. PPS: I have never even looked at the LOIC, and I never would.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 08:56 AM
Oct 2012

Strictly white hat, it was part of my job.

But I'll give you dollars to donuts it's some dumb-ass little script that looks like cussing, Perl, or Python, or whatever the current fad is.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
17. Anonymous
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 08:18 AM
Oct 2012

my friend is the ideal, the screams from the street, the shouts for justice in the dark of night, the sniggering bastard trolls that roll out every racist and homophobic epithet (and a few that you've never heard), the revolutionary keeping net service alive to countries whose governments are bound and determined to destroy connection and communications, they are watchdogs and they are shit disturbers, they're you, they're me, they're all of us.

I always, personally, prefered to define Anon similar to the way Captain Teach defined becoming a pirate - 'Make yourself a flag, declare war on the world.'

Native

(5,935 posts)
28. they took GoDaddy down just over a month or so ago.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:19 AM
Oct 2012

might there be something on their twitter page about this? Isn't the main guy out of Brazil?

drm604

(16,230 posts)
30. I think you responded to the wrong post.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:33 PM
Oct 2012

I never said that I know who anonymous is.

I also didn't say anything about ignoring them.

 

Anthony McCarthy

(507 posts)
11. Wish it was so, maybe it is
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 06:38 AM
Oct 2012

I wish it was so. I've got no idea of how far people can go in monitoring Rove and his thugs but if anyone deserved to be under that kind of surveillance it's them.

They will try to steal the election, they will have the support of the same media that allowed them to steal it in 2000, they already do. I hope they're keeping track of the thugs on the Supreme Court as well.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
18. I've often wondered if Anonymous would hack the vote
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 08:20 AM
Oct 2012

and write-in Anonymous as a candidate. It would be a great way to show how insecure voting machines are.

Footnote:
I am not advocating anyone breaking federal election law Agent Mike.

UCmeNdc

(9,589 posts)
19. If they are going to monitor servers
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 08:22 AM
Oct 2012

I would think they would have to watch for other companies or entities that seem to have no connection to the GOP. The GOP would have outside of their blame computer experts hired to pull off the attack so even if you could connect the dots to an effort to switch votes you could not point to the GOP as the source.

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