Well, Hillary folk, it seems you'll get your wish.

[Jester Messiah]

It's all on you from here on out. Good luck.

[metroins]

1. Join.

Get more involved!

To be honest, you're likely more involved than I am, but we can all do more work for the left cause!

[Jester Messiah]

6. The left cause was defeated tonight. n/t

[wildeyed]

14. If y'all give up this easily,

not hard to see why

Real players get back up after they take a hit. That is WHY Hillary Clinton is winning tonight. Because she didn't quit that time she lost. Think about it.....

[Jester Messiah]

19. I disagree with your premise.

But it's over now.

[pengu]

56. We'll get back up, but it won't be this cycle

There is no progressive left running once Clinton wins the nomination.

[wildeyed]

66. She is persuadable.

Y'all go on and on and on about how she changes her position all the time and how icky that is. But now you know you can push her to change.

FYI, many politicians WANT you to make them do things. They need the political cover that activists give them. MLK and Civil Rights forced LBJ. Anti-war pushed the narrative on Vietnam. #BLM is forcing the media and politicians to talk about police brutality and systemic racism. And, slowly, they are forcing the politicians to take some action.

Why can't berners do the same?

No one is going to do this for you. Waiting for DNC or any politician (even Bernie Sanders) to save you is a waste of time. You need to make them. Sounds trite, but you need to be the change.

[pengu]

67. No, she changes her RHETORIC. Her positions are consistently awful.

[wildeyed]

72. Sanders and Clinton agree on almost everything

compared to the GOP. For instance, Sanders wants $15 minimum wage, Clinton wants $12, GOP wants to abolish it completely. But whatever. Have fun cutting off your nose despite your face!

This post is a prime example of why no one takes Sanders supporters seriously. Many of you won't work for what you believe in, and you don't vote consistently.

[Carolina]

89. Wrong

they do not agree or war/regime change, disastrous trade agreements and corporate hegemony.

[wildeyed]

96. Well you get to choose

between Clinton and either Trump or Cruz. That's life. There is always compromise and disappointments. It's what you do after that defines you.

[LiberalFighter]

77. If you don't help elect members of Congress you would be right.

Electing enough of them can also give her the incentive to support some of those issues. But if she has a Republican Congress she will be limited.

[randome]

17. Sure. By Democracy. I'm sorry you can't see that.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]

[PyaarRevolution]

50. Downballot.

There are still down-ballots that support Bernie's platform and you can help them by donating and phonebanking.

You can still do the same for Bernie coming up into California, Indiana, etc.

[MillennialDem]

25. No.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

99. Involved, yes. Join Hillary? No way in hell.

I've met her, I've dealt with her, I will never support her. Absolutely not. You cannot trust her. On any issue. Ever.

[Trust Buster]

2. Sour grapes never taste well.

[Renew Deal]

3. That should be Bernie's slogan

"It's all on you from here on out. Good luck."

[Armstead]

61. Clinton has fostered that attitude

Her message: "I am winning. I don't have to accommodate him or his supporters."

[SheilaT]

101. Yep. Independents don't matter to her or her supporters.

Nor do the many Democrats who rightly do not trust her in the least.

Pretty soon now we'll see Hillary backing down from a lot of the things Bernie pushed her to: She'll come out firmly in support of a $12/hour minimum wage, phased in over the next ten years. Forgiveness of student loans only after they've been paying on them for 25 years. A freeze on the Social Security COLA, because otherwise there will be no way to pay for her endless wars. And raising of the age on SS to 68, maybe 70. Actually, the real thing for everyone to fear with SS is that they raise the minimum age to collect above 62.

Let's see, what else? More of the ACA will be controlled by the insurance companies, and we'll see the thing about pre-existing conditions rolled back. Taxes on the super wealthy being further lowered.

And all of the Hillarybots will be completely mystified when these things happen. "How could we POSSIBLY have known?" they'll wail. Well, all you had to do was look at her record, look at what she did and said over the years.

[Trenzalore]

4. The Drama nt.

[seabeyond]

30. The drama. Yes. Nt

[Unicorn]

83. The ability to understand what a corporatist and warhawk means.

[seabeyond]

88. I am pretty clever, that. I do not know why you think we are clueless, but I do know

the dogmatic stances make conversation an impossibility.

[TowneshipRebellion]

5. Yep. The coronation is very nearly complete.

They are responsible for what comes of it.

[Zambero]

15. Coronation?

That indeed was predicted up until about a year ago. Fortunately it did not transpire as such. This has been a competitive contest based on actual issues that matter. More than I can ever say for the ongoing GOP side show.

[Sheepshank]

94. There was never a coronation.

There was always, a hard working ethic taking nothing for granted....from all of us. Of coUrse we were feeling positive, but not more so that the positive emotions Sanders supporters felt.

[mythology]

20. You misspelled democracy

Sanders didn't lose because of a coronation. Clinton won more votes that translated into more delegates. I'm sorry if you don't like that, but whining isn't going to change things.

[TowneshipRebellion]

24. Thanks for the correction.

nt.

[Maedhros]

76. There is ample evidence that the DNC colluded with the Clinton campaign.

For example, the stupid debate rules and schedule. So in that sense, there was an attempt by the Party to subvert voter choice and tilt the playing field in Hillary's favor.

[LanternWaste]

106. Much as Messiah was applied to Pres. Obama by RW idiots

Much as Messiah was applied to Pres. Obama by RW idiots, the very same is done in regards to Clinton with coronation. Simply another unsupported allegation lacking any reasonable or rational thought, but rather illustrating little more than petulant tantrums and ill-tempted resentment.

However, I'm certain you'll draw a most creative distinction between the peevishness of the GOP and your own, most righteous taunting. I look forward to it...

[Broward]

7. Tools, probably most unwittingly, of the corporate elite.

[Broward]

29. Ignorant, nt.

[wildeyed]

98. Elitist. Condescending. Arrogant.

Entitled. Self Absorbed. Insular. Rigid. Ideological. And, finally, defeated.

[Broward]

100. I stand corrected. Clearly, some are ignorant and stupid.

[wildeyed]

102. And some are salty,

obtuse and only know how to dish it out.


Partisan. Hidebound. Immodest. Bumptious. Vociferous. Monotonous. Failed.

It is tactless and rude to denigrate others because they chose a different political candidate than you. You should stand corrected there. And that is why you lost.

[Broward]

103. Take a look in the mirror.

[wildeyed]

104. That's all you got?

[Broward]

105. Hahahaha, nt.

[wildeyed]

110. ....

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[LanternWaste]

107. I too pretend that people are tools and pawns of an unnamed conspiracy merely for disagreeing with m

I too pretend that people are tools and pawns of an unnamed conspiracy merely for disagreeing with me as well!

Granted, we have no objective evidence for our allegations, and will never provide support for our bias beyond hysterical and irrational bumper-stickers, but it allows us all the validation we require to maintain the pretense that we are in fact, clever.

[Broward]

109. Conspiracy?

[DrDan]

58. that one hits home - the elitism is sometimes overwhelming

[DrDan]

62. and relying on conspiracies to explain the losses

"no way we could lose with our message . . . except by our opponent's cheating, lying, and stealing"

[Unicorn]

84. Half the people in the bell curve are under 100.

That's 1 out of 2 people.

[wildeyed]

111. NOW the berners want to do math!

But only if they can use it to insinuate that anyone who didn't support their candidate is below average #BernieMath

[seabeyond]

32. Not following the pied piper anyway.

[Broward]

34. You're following a Wall-Street loving, dishonest war-hungry pol.

[seabeyond]

35. Your buying the RW talking points smears.

[Broward]

38. You're buying right-wing ideology.

[seabeyond]

41. No, I am not. I have a pretty good handle on reality and what we are getting. Nt

[Broward]

42. Apparently not.

[seabeyond]

43. You are wrong.

[Broward]

45. I doubt it.

[moriah]

47. All I care about, once the primaries are over, is NOT having the GOP back.

Hillary isn't a perfect candidate. There ARE no perfect candidates. Even Bernie is a politician. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, but none of our politicians are going to walk on water (and if they do, I'll be searching their resume for going to illusion school long before I bow down).

But sadly for those who have worked their heart out for him, the math for Bernie to get a pledged delegate lead when the voting is over isn't looking good.

Bernie would rather have Hillary than Trump or Cruz. Hillary would rather have Bernie rather than Trump or Cruz.

I know what I'm getting. A politician. But not one who wants to control my body, take my rights along with just about every other group in this country that isn't WASM, deport millions, or obsessed with the size of her genitals enough to sue someone who parodied her body (I saw enough jokes about "HFC specials" in the 90s growing up, but Trump wants to sue for painting him as a grower instead of a shower? Wow).

I think, knowing Seabeyond for years, that she's on a similar wavelength.

[Joe the Revelator]

8. It's going to make for interesting watching.

[Jester Messiah]

10. In a morbid sort of way! n/t

[Barack_America]

22. It really is.

I wonder if Skinner will elaborate whether "I told you so" will be a TOS violation in the General?

[actslikeacarrot]

9. I to, would like to congratulate Hillary supporters.

No snark, just congratulations.

[seabeyond]

33. Class act. Ty. Nt

[DrDan]

59. very gracious - thanks! (and keep up the good fight)

[randome]

69. Do ALL carrots act like this?

for the username.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

[Zambero]

11. My wish is to support the Democratic nominee

Be it Hillary or Bernie. Come November, the stakes will be too high to stay home.

[Joe the Revelator]

18. My wish was to support A democratic nominee

It looks like there won't be one in this race.

[Triana]

36. +1

There's a 1960s Republican and a blazing moron.

Such a tough choice.

[Zambero]

46. Your right wing allies thank you

To their credit, they are not under the delusion that Hillary is any sort of "Republican", from any era. They vehemently oppose her for what she is, and not on the basis of how others attempt to portray her.

[Triana]

49. Don't give me that shit.

Hillary's negatives are her own and they are what will cost us the election if anything does. They don't belong to the voters. They belong to HER. She created them. We will all suffer because of them whether she is President or he is.

[apcalc]

52. She did not create them by any stretch

[NurseJackie]

12. Thank you for the good wishes!

[LexVegas]

13. Thanks...bye. nt

[Starry Messenger]

16. The power of superior organizing.

Serious players will take note for next time.

[JudyM]

108. The power of established channels that were used to long shut out open media coverage, significantly

limit voter participation and smear with mischaracterizations. Yeah, if that's your idea of open democracy, you deserve what you get. Congratulations.

[riderinthestorm]

21. We're fucked on climate change now

I won't say I told you so. But I'll be thinking it.



Hillary supporters own the coming shit.

Glad I have a clear conscience.

[reddread]

63. +1

[Demsrule86]

23. Thank you

Join us ...keep the dream alive...because if the GOP gets in and gets five pics...it is over for a generation...this is why I would have voted for Bernie had he won. I would vote for the Democratic nominee.

[Jester Messiah]

37. That's unlikely. n/t

[RandySF]

26. Thanks! Horayyyy

[Algernon Moncrieff]

31. Thank you.

[yuiyoshida]

39. Hillary doesn't need or want Sanders supporters.

[Jester Messiah]

40. That is fortunate for her. n/t

[aikoaiko]

68. Yep. I expect she'll change her tune when Trump moves to the center and gains on her

[TexasBushwhacker]

82. She does to win the swing states n/t

[yuiyoshida]

85. Yes, but she doesn't want them

basically, what she said.

[BernieforPres2016]

44. I ain't wishing them good luck.

I don't want to know or have anything to do with anybody who supports Hillary or Trump. This upcoming election is going to be a national disgrace and disaster, unless the FBI actually steps in and does its job.

[JoePhilly]

48. So when you leaving?

[leftofcool]

51. Goodbye. Sorry you won't be joining us in this historic election.

[Califonz]

53. The Triumph of the Shill

Directed by Leni Wallstreet.

[Carolina]

90. You hit the nail on the head

$Hillary or Billary 2.0

[IADEMO2004]

54. Direct your energy to electing a house and senate

[NCTraveler]

55. K&R

Moving the country forward really is in our hands. It is up to us to defeat Trump. To continue to fight for equality and a more just society. We understand the fight is ours and we are facing great opposition from the racists, bigots, and sexists scum on the right. They are the oppressors and we will fight them with everything we have.

Thanks for wishing us luck in our righteous endeavor.

[DrDan]

57. no problem - thanks for the positive message

always refreshing to see good winners here - just shows we are the party of the adults

[Orsino]

64. It's all on Americans to make our next president the best ever.

Lobby hard at every level of government. Don't wait for the convention, don't wait forNovember, and never give up.

[Stuckinthebush]

65. Thank you!

Onward to the GE!

[rock]

70. That's not our wish

That wish has been fulfilled since the sweep of the South. We now want the stench to clear of DU.

[Jester Messiah]

73. Well that's easily done.

Just close your mouth.

[840high]

81. Snort.

[kcass1954]

71. My momma always said, "Be careful what you wish for...

"... you just might get it!"

[Fla Dem]

74. No it's on you too and Bernie Sanders

If in fact Bernie Sanders has built this great movement, with "millions" of supporters. Put it to work. Regardless who the nominee is or who ends up being President, get active. Support your local candidates for city council, state reps, governors, congress. Heck run yourself if you feel the system needs changing. No better way than to change from within and from the bottom up.

It takes hard work and commitment to steer a government as big as ours to go in the direction we want it to go.

So now it's on Bernie to grow his movement, set something up nationally so you can get the kind of candidates in office that will support Bernie's agenda and put pressure on state and federal legislators.

But unfortunately just like all those new young voters who rallied for Obama and then didn't stick around for the hard work, or vote in the mid-terms, they left him high and dry. I fear the same will happen with Bernie and his flock. He'll go back to the senate to live out his days pushing legislation that won't go anywhere, and all those revolutionaries will just walk away, because,well, it's hard work.

[Jester Messiah]

75. I certainly intend to vote down-ticket.

Also, I voted for Obama both times, and in the mid-terms as well. Sadly, I'm left to wonder just exactly what it was I voted for, when Obama himself stands up against breaking up the banks, and nominates Republicans to the SCOTUS. What the hell is even the point of this party anymore?

[Agnosticsherbet]

78. I don't believe in wishes, being an agnostic. I look forward to President Hillary Clinton.

She will be a great, liberal President.

[Jester Messiah]

79. I disagree.

I also think that, despite the protestation of your subject line, you're engaging in the worst kind of wishful thinking.

[Agnosticsherbet]

80. Opinions vary.

[Unicorn]

86. Yeah, now that we see her supporters consider liberal

someone who helped write the tpp, does pro fracking speeches (google as some are recorded on youtube), think it's not corrupt to take your election money from super pacs, have no problem with someone who was Kissingeresque during her time as SOS, etc.

I'm too actually liberal to fall for that shite. No, she won't be a liberal president. That takes a liberal person with liberal values, and a liberal record. Not a liberal when I'm campaigning and bury everything else I've done record.

She'll be a dangerous neocon. Google her on Iran. I expect an Iran war within a year of her taking office. Google her on Nuking Iran. I hope the defense department fights her tooth and nail to not let her get away with her bloody first impulses that can easily compete with Trumps. Google Hillary nukes and iran. She aint no liberal. Liberals don't threaten to nuke people.

One thing I can say for Obama - he wasn't a war hawk. He wasn't into getting us into more war.

[Unicorn]

87. I googled for you. Since you're a hillary supporter I have ZERO faith in your checking for yourself

or vetting anything.

Clinton warns Iran of US Nuclear Response
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/24246275/ns/msnbc-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/t/clinton-warns-iran-us-nuclear-response/#.VyKrl-T2ZJQ

Her last threat to attack Iran was in October 2015.

She is no liberal.

[Sheepshank]

91. We didn't wish...we worked fucking hard. Nt

[davidn3600]

93. You didnt have to work hard at all

This was rigged for Hillary from the start.

[Sheepshank]

95. Well, your bitter, sorry for yourself imaginings is pretty sad

You have no idea what I had done, donated, called, educated, posted etc. making up shit is unlikely to make you feel better, and over indulging in conspiracy theories will only shove you further down the rabbit hole.

[BootinUp]

92. Reccing as an excellent "taking my ball and going home" example.

[wildeyed]

97. We didn't "get our wish".

We won. We are pragmatists, remember? We don't believe in wishing.