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amborin

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Sat Apr 23, 2016, 12:43 PM Apr 2016

!!! Insurers Pay Speaking Fees to Hillary, Then Lead Fight Against Colorado's Single Payer

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http://time.com/3889577/hillary-clinton-paid-speeches-lobbyists-influence/

The Democratic presidential candidate earned $10.2 million in 2014, her first full calendar year after leaving the State Department. Of that, $4.6 million came from groups that also spent on lobbying Congress that year, according to data compiled by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.

In all, the corporations and trade groups that Clinton spoke to in 2014 spent $72.5 million lobbying Congress that same year.

Asked Tuesday if there were conflicts of interest in speaking to these groups, Clinton was curt with reporters in Cedar Falls, Iowa. “No,” she said.


“Obviously, Bill and I have been blessed and we’re very grateful for the opportunities that we had but we’ve never forgotten where we’ve come from,” she added.

But the speaking fees were more about where they were going next.



Name 2014 Lobbying Spending Clinton Speaking Fee
General Electric $20,085,000 $225,500
Biotechnology Industry Organization $10,186,000 $335,500
Qualcomm Inc $9,530,000 $125,000
Pharmaceutical Care Management Assn $4,284,916 $225,500
National Auto Dealers Assn $3,657,000 $225,500
Cisco Systems $3,450,000 $325,000
Advanced Medical Technology Association $3,392,000 $265,000
Ameriprise Financial $3,390,000 $225,500
Novo Nordisk Pharmaceuticals $3,008,000 $125
Premier Health Alliance $1,258,696 $225,000

*****Council of Insurance Agents & Brokers $1,083,180 $225,500




Health Care Industry Moves Swiftly to Stop Colorado’s “Single Payer” Ballot Measure

By Lee Fang

Apr. 22 2016, 10:37 a.m.

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/22/colorad-single-payer/

The campaign in Colorado to create the nation’s first state-based “single payer” health insurance system, providing universal coverage and replacing insurance premiums with higher taxes, has barely begun.

But business interests in Colorado are not taking anything for granted, and many of the largest lobbying groups around the country and in the state are raising funds to defeat Amendment 69, the single-payer ballot question going before voters this November.

The Council of Insurance Agents & Brokers, a national trade group, is mobilizing its member companies to defeat single payer in Colorado. “The council urges Coloradans to protect employer-provided insurance and oppose Proposition 69,” the CIAB warns. The group dispatched Steptoe & Johnson, a lobbying firm it retains, to analyze the bill.

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!!! Insurers Pay Speaking Fees to Hillary, Then Lead Fight Against Colorado's Single Payer (Original Post) amborin Apr 2016 OP
Hillary said single payer will never ever happen. Is she is president you can take that to the bank. think Apr 2016 #1
that's the dog-honest truth. nashville_brook Apr 2016 #2
Looks like the Council of Insurance Agents & Brokers $225K investment was pretty solid..... think Apr 2016 #3
This is from 2006 and the state of Maine- this is what's really blocking single payer, (LONG!) Baobab Apr 2016 #18
Thank you for the information. I'll need to take some time to read through and understand it's think Apr 2016 #20
Of course, you failed to produce entire list of speeches. Here's one on "women's equality" to Ebay Hoyt Apr 2016 #4
Speeches to retailers and speeches made public katsy Apr 2016 #5
Yeah, 200 or 300+ investors at a Goldman Sachs event are all going to keep quite about some sinister Hoyt Apr 2016 #7
Don't give a shit about snark. katsy Apr 2016 #8
Why, you'd take things out of context, say she altered transcripts or went off script, ask Hoyt Apr 2016 #10
Wow. Snark & mindreading. LOL katsy Apr 2016 #11
Sometimes when I ride my bike a long way, my arse starts to hurt jack_krass Apr 2016 #6
The OP lists some supposedly sinister speeches from Time. The OP left out a lot of speeches. Why? Hoyt Apr 2016 #9
Just as not every action a theif makes is robbing jack_krass Apr 2016 #12
Keeping with the thief analogy(its fitting)....A good thief mixes his thievery with jack_krass Apr 2016 #13
The thread is about Hillary speaking to the Council of Insurance Agents & Brokers for $225k think Apr 2016 #15
The OP is about a fucking ballot measure we have worked hard to get here in CO for Single Payer Autumn Apr 2016 #16
Exactly, she may have made speeches womans rights, puppy dogs, or the peice of tea in China, jack_krass Apr 2016 #19
I'm only interested in the speeches she gave to the ones working to defeat the Single Payer Autumn Apr 2016 #14
I would also be very interested in hearing what she said Baobab Apr 2016 #21
major threats posed to public health care - read here! Baobab Apr 2016 #17
The Clintons are scum. Bought and paid-for... AzDar Apr 2016 #22
That's how government works now. We have the best government NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #23

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
18. This is from 2006 and the state of Maine- this is what's really blocking single payer, (LONG!)
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:44 PM
Apr 2016

Not the fake cover story! Save this to your disk- it may come in handy later!

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DRAFT
Assessment—for Citizen Trade Policy Commission review Report to the Health Care Subcommittee of the Maine CTPC

DRAFT Assessment—for Citizen Trade Policy Commission review Report to the Health Care Subcommittee of the Maine CTPC

I. Introduction The Health Care Subcommittee of the Maine Citizens Trade Policy Commission has asked the Forum on Democracy & Trade to look at Maine’s health insurance programs in relation to U.S. commitments under international trade agreements, and specifically to identify potential conflicts or issues regarding Maine’s Dirigo Health Program with provisions of the WTO General Agreement on Trade in Services (GATS). This report is primarily based on analysis carried out by specialists at the Harrison Institute for Public Law, Georgetown University Law Center. These specialists note the complexity of the GATS commitments, particularly as it pertains to a multi-faceted public policy issue like “health care,” since health care programs may fall into a number of categories in the United States’ GATS schedule. Here we focus specifically on Dirigo and GATS in order to enable the Maine CTPC to:

ƒ Understand potential trade conflicts serious enough to bring to the attention of U.S. trade negotiators and the Congress

ƒ Raise questions about the meaning of vague GATS provisions on coverage and trade rules that could improve the quality of state-federal consultation on trade policy

ƒ Identify potential safeguards for Dirigo and similar state-level health programs. Safeguards could take the form of:

3?4 avoiding implementation of new GATS disciplines on domestic regulation, or

3?4 avoiding coverage through limits on U.S. sector commitments in the GATS. We note at the outset that there do not appear to be any foreign providers active in Maine’s health insurance market today. As compared to other wealthy countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), the United States is
a “statistical outlier” with respect to the provision of health services for its population. According to the OECD, only 44% of total health expenditures in the United States comes from public sources, and the 35% share of total health costs accounted for by private health insurance programs is more than double the figure for that of the closest OECD country (Netherlands, at 15% provided by private suppliers). 1 Most OECD countries have aging populations, and health care is taking up a larger share of government spending. This has led to a proliferation of new supplementary health insurance products in the European Union in recent years. Will foreign suppliers seek to move aggressively into US markets? Here are the scenarios under which GATS and other trade rules become increasingly important with respect to state health care choices:

ƒ Foreign firms might enter the market to take advantage of new government programs (subsidies and stable administrative payments).

ƒ Domestic firms might change their corporate domicile to take advantage of evolving trade rules. This scenario might also involve countries that have Free Trade
1 “Private Health Insurance in OECD Countries: The Benefits and Costs for Individuals and Health Systems,” Francesca Colombo and Nicolas Topay, OECD Health Working Paper #15, 2004. The OECD average is 6% for total health expenditures paid by private health insurers.2 Agreements (FTAs) with the United States, which include chapters on services or investment that constrain government authority more than GATS. These scenarios would depend on how much of a legal advantage the trade rules would provide to a foreign firm, as well as whether another country would threaten a trade dispute in order to support such a firm. Domestic insurance and pharmaceutical companies have shown they are willing to spend resources to try and invalidate Dirigo in a domestic court. Standing alone, Maine is not likely to provoke an international trade dispute. But if Maine continues to be a leader in state-level innovation, and if other states begin to enter the insurance market, the threat of
a trade dispute involving Maine’s policy (along with others) would grow. Another possible scenario is that the federal government might use its unilateral powers to enforce trade rules through preemption; or, perhaps more likely, exercising a coercive option such as withholding federal funds through the Medicaid waiver process in order to limit the options available to Maine in experimenting with different types of health care coverage. Finally, the trade rules are changing. The most likely source of GATS conflict that was identified involves proposed disciplines on domestic regulation that are presently being negotiated at the WTO. The Maine CTPC has already communicated with services negotiators at the Office of the United States Trade Representative regarding the Working Party on Domestic Regulations, and indeed Chief Services Negotiator Chris Melly has appeared before the commission. It is recommended that the Maine CTPC continue to monitor the domestic regulation negotiations very carefully. It was recently announced that services negotiations are starting up again at the WTO, after the five-month suspension following the collapse of the Doha Round. A recent article in the Washington trade press 2 notes that During a ‘Friends of Services’ meeting..., lead US negotiator Chris Melly pressed for a clear strategy – starting with ambassadors first and ministers later – that would get to the nitty-gritty of bargaining.” Mr. Melly’s statement might be evaluated in light of two comments he made in front of the Maine CTPC at the commission’s 18 September 2006 meeting: first, that USTR considered the Working Party on Domestic Regulation’s Chairman’s Text to be “horrible”; and second, that he doubted there would be any serious negotiations on services “before the end of the year. One would assume that the Chairman’s Text is the basis for the “nitty-gritty of bargaining.” Has Mr. Melly (and by extension USTR) shifted from the previous assertion that there would not be significant negotiations on services before the end of 2006?
2 “A ‘Green Light’ to Re-start DDA [Doha Development Agenda],” Washington Trade Daily, 17 November 2006.3 Interestingly, one of the messages Mr. Melly brought to the Maine CTPC was that USTR was not willing to honor the Governor’s letter/request carving the State of Maine out of new GATS commitments, stating that USTR did not see such carve-outs as necessary because Maine laws on roadside billboards or library services were unlikely to be challenged. Melly did not mention health care in his remarks before the Commission. And yet in the case of health care and pharmaceuticals, there have already been domestic lawsuits. Further, the expansion and growth of private health care programs in Europe and other major trade-partner countries suggests that foreign suppliers may indeed seek to enter Maine’s health insurance market in future. Under these conditions, the cautions noted by Maine CTPC, as well as Governor Baldacci in his 5 April 2006 letter, seem very reasonable. Maine is fully justified in seeking further clarification from USTR with respect to that part of the U.S. GATS schedule where domestic legal challenges have already been brought by domestic actors; where Maine is clearly identified as a national leader in health care reform; and where the rapid growth of foreign service suppliers who may wish to enter the U.S. market makes a challenge to Maine law more likely. We expand on this point in the third section following. The remainder of this report follows the format and analysis provided by Harrison Institute for Public Law. It is divided into four parts:

ƒ Part II provides an overview of the relevant Dirigo elements.

ƒ Part III addresses general GATS coverage of Dirigo Health.

ƒ Part IV outlines the risk of conflict between Dirigo and GATS.

ƒ Part V presents the potential safeguards that CTPC could recommend to protect Dirigo from conflict. II. Brief Introduction to Dirigo Before detailing specific GATS questions, this section provides (1) an overview of Dirigo terms, (2) a summary of how the program operates, and (3) a mention of three specific Dirigo health insurance provisions most likely to conflict with GATS obligations. a) Dirigo Terms Three Dirigo terms could easily be confused if not explained. The relevant terms are:
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ƒ Dirigo Health Act (the “Act”)—the actual statute that created Dirigo Health, which is codified at M E . R EV . S TAT . A NN . tit. 24-A, § 6901 et seq. (2006).

ƒ Dirigo Health (the “Agency”)—an independent executive agency created by the Act “to arrange for the provision of comprehensive, affordable health care coverage.” 3 The Act creates the framework for the Agency to provide health insurance to Maine residents and minimize health care costs.
M E . R EV . S TAT . A NN . tit. 24-A, § 6902.4

ƒ Dirigo Health Program (the “Program”) and DirigoChoice—The Act authorizes the Agency to create and manage a specific kind of health insurance, which is the Dirigo Health Program. The Dirigo web site refers to the insurance as DirigoChoice. DirigoChoice is available to:

ƒ Small Business Employees (2-50 employees);

ƒ Sole Proprietors (self employed / business of 1); and

ƒ Individuals who:

o Are unemployed
o Work for a Small Business that does not offer insurance
o Own a Small Business but cannot get enough employees to join a Small Group plan
o Work less than 20 hours a week for any single employer
o Are early retirees whose employer does not contribute to health benefits. 4 Dirigo Health operates under a board of directors and an executive director. 5 The Act delegates rulemaking power to the Agency 6 and requires the Agency to arrange for the provision of Dirigo Health Program coverage. 7 Section 6910 outlines requirements for Dirigo Health to create a new product on the health insurance market, DirigoChoice. In short, Dirigo Health contracts with insurance carriers to provide coverage and with eligible businesses to arrange for coverage under the Program. The Agency may also permit eligible individuals to purchase coverage for themselves and their dependents. 8 The Act authorizes the Agency to establish subsidies for “eligible individuals or employees whose income is under 300% of the federal poverty level,” 9 The subsidies

(foonotes)

4 See Dirigo Fact Sheet: Agency Presentation to the Governor's Blue Ribbon Commission, at 6 (2006) [hereinafter Dirigo Fact Sheet], available at http://www.dirigohealth.maine.gov/ agency%20Fact%20Sheet%20Final%20091506.pdf.
5 See id. §§ 6904, 6909.
6 See id. § 6908.
7 See id. § 6910. The Act authorized Dirigo Health to create a nonprofit health care plan if health insurance carriers did not apply to offer Program coverage. See M E . R EV . S TAT . A NN . tit. 24-A, § 6910(2). Anthem Blue Cross and Blue Shield prevented the nonprofit option by becoming the first company to negotiate for business under Dirigo Health. See Healthcare Coverage; Survey shows businesses shunning state health plan, H EALTH & M ED . W K ., Aug. 2, 2004, at 549. Anthem is the only provider offering Dirigo Health Program coverage and recently renewed its contract for one more year. See Dirigo Health Agency Reaches Agreement with Anthem on DirigoChoice (2006), on-line at: http://www.maine.gov/governor/baldacci/healthpolicy/news/9_22_06.htm.
8 See M E . R EV . S TAT . A NN . tit. 24-A, § 6910(4).
9 Id. § 6912.5 are funded by savings offset payments, which are the amount saved by other insurance carriers and third-party administrators as a result of the operation of the Dirigo Health Program. The Act authorizes the Agency to calculate this amount and collect it from non-Dirigo carriers. 10 The Act does not directly regulate the health insurance market in Maine; instead, it creates a new entrant to the market and subsidizes its consumers. The Act does not require insurance carriers in Maine to comply with any separate provisions, and it does not place any restrictions on the type or amount of health insurance that may be offered by non-Dirigo carriers. The Act still has direct effects on the insurance market because the Act requires carriers pay back any savings gained because of the existence of the new market entrant and the shifts customers to the Dirigo supplier. b) Specific Dirigo Provisions This section highlights the specific health insurance provisions that are most likely to risk conflict with GATS: 1. Savings Offset Payments The Act authorizes Dirigo Health to analyze the total savings in the health insurance market attributable to the presence of the Program and seek to recover these savings from non-Dirigo carriers. 11 This is the most direct effect that the Act has on health insurance carriers in Maine. In authorizing the Agency to determine the total savings to non-Dirigo providers, the Act provides standards but also arguably delegates the authority to the Agency to determine standards not listed in the statute. A Maine trial court recently upheld this statutory delegation to the Agency as not being unconstitutionally vague. 12 10 The constitutionality of the savings offset payments of the Act and the validity of the methodology employed to determine savings in 2005 were recently upheld by the Cumberland County Superior Court. See Maine Assoc. of Health Plans v. State, No. Civ.A. AP-05-090, 2006 WL 2959744 (Me. Super. Ct. Aug. 4, 2006); Dirigo Health Wins Court Case: Savings Confirmed (2006), at http://www.maine. gov/governor/baldacci/healthpolicy/news/8_7_06.htm. Nevertheless, the Dirigo Health board recently voted to table any action to assess the savings during year two of Dirigo, instead charging the Governor’s new Blue Ribbon Commission to find an alternative source of funding for the Dirigo Health Program. See Governor Applauds Decision to Table Dirigo Savings Offset Payment, on-line at: http://www.maine.gov/governor/baldacci/healthpolicy/news/8_8_06.htm. 11 See M E . R EV . S TAT . A NN . tit. 24-A, § 6913. 12 See Maine Assoc. of Health Plans, 2006 WL 2959744, at *3 n.4.6 While the statute is silent, the DirigoChoice carrier is not required to make the savings offset payment. 13 The Dirigo board recently voted to table the savings offset payment, charging the Governor’s Blue Ribbon Commission with the responsibility of finding an alternative source of funding for the Dirigo Health Program. 14 2. Subsidies The Agency arranges for subsidies for those “eligible individuals or employees whose income is under 300% of the federal poverty level.” 15 The Act either brings new consumers to the market—those who might not otherwise consume health insurance—or pulls those on the margin over to the Dirigo supplier. The subsidies increase the base of possible consumers for Dirigo Health Program coverage—and decrease consumers of non-Dirigo services. Approximately 40% of DirigoChoice members were uninsured prior to enrolling, 16 which means that 60% of DirigoChoice consumers were insured with a different insurance company before switching to Dirigo coverage. DirigoChoice is attracting more than half of its consumers away from other health insurance providers in the market. With 19,352 members in enrolled in DirigoChoice in August 2006, DirigoChoice attracted 11,000 health insurance consumers away other service suppliers. 17 3. Contracting Authority (Qualification Requirements) The Act outlines the manner in which Dirigo Health may exercise its contracting authority and powers to administer Dirigo Health Insurance. The contracting authority provisions include the qualification requirements for carriers who wish to offer Dirigo coverage. 18 Some relevant provisions are: 13 The Act also exempts certain other carriers from making the payments. The relevant portion of the Act states: The board shall determine annually a savings offset amount to be paid by health insurance carriers, employee benefit excess insurance carriers and 3rd-party administrators, not including carriers and 3rd-party administrators with respect to accidental injury, specified disease, hospital indemnity, dental, vision, disability income, long-term care, Medicare supplement or other limited benefit health insurance.
M E . R EV . S TAT . A NN . tit. 24-A, § 6913(2). 14 See supra note 10. 15 Id. § 6912. 16 See Agency Fact Sheet, supra note 4, at 14. 17 See id. at 12. 18 The Contracting Authority provisions cover contracts with insurance carriers, contracts with eligible businesses to cover employees, and authority to permit individuals to purchase DirigoChoice for themselves and their dependents. See M E . R EV . S TAT . A NN . tit. 24-A, § 6910(4)(A)–(C).7


• Dirigo Health may include cost-containment provisions in contracts with insurance carriers 19 ; Dirigo Health may set the allowable rates for administration and underwriting gains for the Program 20 ; Dirigo Health may limit the number of eligible individuals who enroll in the Program. 21 III. General GATS Coverage of Dirigo Health The Dirigo Health program is covered by GATS. Under Article I, GATS covers measures that affect trade in services. Clearly, Dirigo affects trade in health insurance services. The one exclusion from general GATS coverage is for “a service supplied in the exercise of government authority.” This “government authority” exclusion takes a measure out of GATS coverage only if both of two tests are satisfied. The measure must be (a) not supplied on a commercial basis and (b) not in competition with one or more service suppliers. 22 As noted below, over 60% of Dirigo consumers are drawn from unsubsidized competitors of Dirigo. While it may seem obvious to us that Dirigo provides a commercial product and competes with commercial providers of health insurance, we raise a question about GATS coverage for one important reason. U.S. trade negotiators have stated in conversations with state officials that any government service is excluded as an exercise of government authority. Indeed, a 13 April 2005 letter from Assistant USTR for Congressional Affairs Matt Niemeyer to Senator Susan M. Collins suggests that USTR does not understand how Dirigo works. In response to questions raised by Senator Collins, Niemeyer writes: Based on the description of Maine’s Dirigo Health Plan, we understand that the plan operates under the auspices of the Maine government and receives some state funding for the first year as well as public funds through Medicaid. We understand that the plan has several objectives, including working with insurance companies and hospitals to find voluntary means of reducing the cost of insurance and health care and ensuring that poor citizens are able to obtain insurance. Dirigo appears to have a unique governmental role and is not intended to compete directly with private sector suppliers of insurance and related services or health care services (emphasis added). 19 Id. § 6910(4)(A)(2). 20 Id. § 6910(4)(A)(5). 21 Id. § 6910(4)(C)(6). 22 General Agreement on Trade in Services art. I:3(c), Apr. 15, 1994, 33 I.L.M. 44 (1994) [hereinafter GATS], on-line at: http://www.wto.org/English/docs_e/legal_e/legal_e.htm#services .8 Our analysis suggests that Dirigo is in competition with private insurance suppliers, and indeed, some degree of competition is unavoidable given Dirigo's objectives. The Maine CTPC may therefore wish to pursue further this issue with USTR. Knowing whether or not USTR simply misunderstood, or deliberately misrepresented, the purposes of Dirigo in its letter to Senator Collins is less important than obtaining a written clarification of USTR’s understanding of general GATS coverage of state-initiative health care programs, with respect to this question: Does USTR believe that GATS does not cover a government-subsidized insurance program, even when it takes customers away from commercial companies? IV. Dirigo’s Risk of GATS Conflict For each measure, this section comments on potential conflicts and raises questions about interpretation of GATS. Any potential conflict assumes the existence of a foreign service supplier in the market: either a domestic supplier incorporating abroad, or a foreign supplier attempting to enter the market. a) Savings Offset Payments The Act only requires non-Dirigo providers to make the savings offset payments and leaves calculation of the payments to the discretion of the Agency. These provisions implicate the domestic regulation and national treatment obligations. 1. National Treatment In service sectors a Member has specifically scheduled, the national treatment obligation requires the Member to treat domestic and foreign service suppliers equally. 23 A measure conflicts with the obligation if it “modifies the conditions of competition in favour of services or service suppliers” of domestic firms compared to foreign firms. 24 Nevertheless, the national treatment obligation is limited in that equal treatment only needs to be extended to “like” services and services suppliers; thus, if suppliers are not “like,” a measure treating them differently does not violate national treatment.

A “likeness” test has yet to be fully flushed out by WTO dispute resolution, though two panels have taken the general approach that service suppliers that offer the same services are “like.” 25 More complex service sectors or situations may require comparison of a 23 See GATS art. XVII:1(a) (“In the sectors inscribed in its Schedule, and subject to any conditions and qualifications set out therein, each Member shall accord to services and service suppliers of any other Member, in respect of all measures affecting the supply of services, treatment no less favourable than that it accords to its own like services and service suppliers.”) 24 See id. art. XVII:3. 25 See European Communities – Regime for the Importation, Sale and Distribution of Bananas, Panel Report, WT/DS27/R/USA ¶7.322 (May 22, 1997) (declining to find banana distributors with different origins of the bananas to be different service suppliers and stating “to the extent that entities provide these like services, they are like service suppliers”); Canada – Autos, Panel Report, WT/DS142/R ¶10.248 (Feb. 11, 2000) (same).9 number of relevant criteria and “greater attention may need to be paid to external factors such as competitive relationships and the circumstances in which services are being supplied.” 26

? Likeness. What is the meaning of “likeness” in this Dirigo insurance market? Are non-Dirigo insurance providers “like” Anthem, the sole Dirigo insurance provider? Following the test from one WTO decision, the Dirigo and non-Dirigo providers could be “like” to the extent that they all offer the same service: health insurance. However, looking at the circumstances in which the services are offered illuminates external factors that distinguishe the two providers. A dispute panel determining likeness will probably ask:
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ƒ Is a Dirigo provider different because it offers services to a low-income population? Is a Dirigo provider different because it is directly accountable to a government agency? Is a Dirigo provider different because it actually saves the market money and is subsidized by those savings? If non-Dirigo suppliers do not supply a “like” service as Dirigo suppliers, or if the two are not “like suppliers,” then the two provisions may be safe from conflict with national treatment.

? National Treatment Obligations. Does a measure violate national treatment if it creates equal conditions for most domestic and foreign service suppliers but carves out more favorable conditions for one domestic supplier? If the savings offset payments are not required of Anthem, then Dirigo effectively creates less favorable conditions for all non-Dirigo providers—domestic and foreign—as compared with the sole Dirigo provider. The national treatment obligation prohibits less favorable treatment between foreign suppliers and a Member’s own like suppliers, plural. Does this mean equal treatment among all service suppliers? Can national treatment be satisfied through equal treatment with all but one domestic supplier? 2. Domestic Regulation There may also be a risk of conflict between the savings offset payments provisions and the requirements of the domestic regulation obligation. GATS requires measures that relate to “qualification requirements and procedures, technical standards and licensing requirements” to be “based on objective and transparent criteria . . . [and] . . . not more burdensome than necessary to ensure the quality of the service” 27 26 Eric H. Leroux, From Periodicals to Gambling: A Review of Systemic Issues Addressed by WTO Adjudicatory Bodies under the GATS, at 29 (Paper presented at the World Trade Forum 2006, Bern, Switzerland). 27 GATS art. VI:5(a)(i).10


A Maine trial court recently rejected an argument that the savings offset payment was unconstitutionally vague. 28 The plaintiffs—the Maine Association of Health Plans, the Maine Automobile Dealers, and the Maine State Chamber of Commerce—argued that the Act did not provide clear direction for the Agency to determine the savings offset amount and that the Agency measured savings using factors not enumerated in the statute. The Act requires that: [T]he board shall determine annually . . . the aggregate measurable cost savings, including any reduction or avoidance of bad debt and charity care costs to health care providers in this state as a result of the operation of Dirigo Health and any increased MaineCare enrollment due to an expansion in MaineCare eligibility occurring after June 30, 2004. 29 The plaintiffs argued that defining cost savings with the term “including” was ambiguous, allowing the Agency to limit the factors to those stated or alternatively adding factors not enumerated in the statute. The Agency board of directors originally calculated $136.8 million in cost savings, though the superintendent reduced that amount to $43.7 million, disapproving several factors used by the board. 30 The plaintiffs challenged the superintendent’s calculation, but the trial court upheld the $43.7 million, stating “that the Superintendent’s determination is supported by substantial evidence in the record.” 31 While dismissing the argument because it had not been originally raised at the agency level, the trial court also rejected its merits, stating that “[a]lthough, the legislative scheme is complex, a person of general intelligence would understand that a number of factors determine these kind of savings, such as hospital savings, uninsured savings, health care provider fee savings, certificate of need and capital investment fund savings, and insurance carrier savings.” 32 Domestic causes of action are often analogous to GATS claims. A trade conflict could arise if the domestic regulation requirement used in the GATS is stricter than the one applied under Maine law. That is to say:
ƒ if the application of non-statutory standards by the agency may not be “objective and transparent” as required by GATS;
ƒ the use of the payments may not be the least “burdensome” means to ensure the quality of Dirigo insurance; and 28 See Maine Assoc. of Health Plans, 2006 WL 2959744, at *3 n.4. 29 M E . R EV . S TAT . A NN . tit. 24-A, § 6913(1)(A) (emphasis added). 30 See Maine Assoc. of Health Plans, 2006 WL 2959744, at *4. 31 Id. 32 Id. at *3 n.4.11
ƒ if there is a less burdensome alternative to fund the program—for instance, through the general tax base— then the saving payments could violate the domestic regulation obligation in the GATS. Consequently, two domestic regulation questions arise:
? Transparent and Objective Delegation. How strict is the transparent and objective requirement of domestic regulation? Can statutory delegation to an administrative agency be considered objective? In the “domestic regulation” negotiations, will USTR argue for a softer standard, one that is more in line with the kind of analysis used by the Maine trial court? The domestic insurance industry has already shown that it is willing to spend resources to litigate against Dirigo, making the argument that the Dirigo Act is unconstitutional because it vaguely delegated authority to the Agency to determine how to calculate the savings payments. The industry argued the statute was ambiguous because the Agency was able to consider factors not enumerated in the statute in making its calculation. The Maine trial court determined the statute was not void for vagueness because “a person of general intelligence would understand that a number of factors determine these kind of savings.” 33 In conclusion, then: would the GATS standard be as lenient as the Maine trial court’s “general intelligence” test? Or, will the GATS require more specificity in the terms of the authority/cost calculation powers delegated to an administrative agency?
? Transparent and Objective Regulations. If the agency promulgates clear regulations, do those regulations cure any objectivity problem with the statute? One further issue should be raised with respect to the Savings Offset Payments. The Maine trial court described the savings offset payment as a licensing fee rather than a tax. 34 However, in the WTO negotiations on domestic regulation, several nations have proposed a new discipline to ensure that licensing fees are not more burdensome than necessary to pay for costs of administering licensing requirements. 35 In fact, the Dirigo statute excludes the cost of administration from the savings offset, and charges licensed carriers the much larger cost of calculation of savings generated by the existence of Dirigo Health.
? Burdensomeness of licensing fees. Would the Dirigo savings offset be a licensing fee under GATS? If so, would it violate proposed disciplines that limit fees to the costs of administration? 33 See id. Id. at *3. 35 Most recently, the chair of those negotiations proposed: 34 11. Each Member shall ensure that any licensing fees have regard to the administrative costs involved and do not in themselves represent an impediment to engaging in the relevant activity. This shall not preclude the recovery of any additional costs of administering licensing requirements and any other administrative activities related to the regulation of the relevant services. WTO, Note by the Chairman, Disciplines on Domestic Regulation Pursuant to GATS Article VI:4 Consolidated Working Paper, Working Party on Domestic Regulation, JOB(06)/225 ¶11 (July 2006).12 b) Subsidies Subject to the same “likeness” and national treatment test described above, the subsidy provisions also risk conflict with the national treatment obligation. If a subsidy for Dirigo consumers “modifies the conditions of competition” in favor of the domestic Dirigo provider—and subject to the same “likeness” analysis above—there may be a risk of conflict between the subsidies provisions and the national treatment obligation. It is clear that the Maine legislature clearly intended for Dirigo subsidies to change the conditions of competition, at least for Dirigo consumers. These consumers are either people without health insurance before Dirigo, or consumers on the margins who are pulled away from non-Dirigo insurance providers because Dirigo is now offered at a lower price. These subsidy questions are implicitly tied to which firms have access to this new subsidized market, which leads to the question of who can meet the requirements to qualify as a Dirigo provider. c) Qualification Requirements Disciplines developed in the GATS intend to limit the ability of governments to use qualification requirements for service suppliers intending to enter a market. The risk of conflict between the qualification requirements for Dirigo and GATS obligations is less clear, depending on whether or not the qualification requirements under Dirigo are deemed to be explicit. 36 The requirements could conflict:
ƒ with Domestic Regulation rules if the requirements are “more burdensome that necessary”;
ƒ with Market Access if there is a limit on the number of Dirigo providers, or
ƒ with National Treatment if foreign health insurance providers are not eligible to become Dirigo providers. V. Potential Safeguards In addition to asking for clarification on the GATS questions posed above, the Maine CTPC could request several potential safeguards to protect Dirigo from any possible GATS conflict. These safeguards relate to two parts of the GATS and current GATS negotiations:
ƒ the still pending negotiations on domestic regulation disciplines; and
ƒ coverage of Dirigo under GATS and the U.S. GATS schedule. Letters from the Maine CTPC and the Governor to the Office of the United States Trade Representative have already addressed aspects of each. The following ideas could be discussed with respect to the CTPC’s 2007 workplan: 36 See M E . R EV . S TAT . A NN . tit. 24-A, § 6910(4)(a). Under the Act, the only explicit requirements of providers who wish to qualify to be Dirigo providers are that they licensed to sell health insurance in Maine and that they qualify as health plans in Medicaid. See id. § 6910(3),(4). There may be other requirements contained in the Request for Proposals issued by the Dirigo Health agency on May 7, 2004. See Dirigo Health, Timelines & Milestones, http://www.dirigohealth.maine.gov/dhsp01c.html.13 a) Domestic Regulation
; Domestic Regulation. New disciplines are currently being negotiated and less restrictive alternatives have been offered and supported to replace the “objective and transparent” and “no more burdensome than necessary” requirements One potential safeguard is to avoid implementation of the objectivity and necessity tests in favor a less restrictive domestic regulation discipline. b) Coverage
; Clarify that certain public health services, such as insurance, are not covered. This would necessitate a shared interpretation at the WTO, and in particular within the GATS Council, of the scope of the “government authority exclusion.” The government authority exclusion would be interpreted to exclude publicly funded insurance programs. 37
; Withdraw coverage. Convince USTR to withdraw the U.S. commitment on health insurance services. Article XXI of GATS allows a Member to modify its schedule. Of course, any Member affected by the modification may request compensation in exchange for the modification. However, if there currently there are no foreign insurance suppliers in the health insurance market in Maine, then there would be no affected Member. This could allow USTR to withdraw the commitment without objection.
; Limit Coverage. Limit the U.S. commitment on health insurance services in the revised schedule USTR has proposed in current GATS negotiations. This can be done in two ways. First, and less preferable, limit the health insurance commitment by specifically carving out Dirigo. Second, and most preferable, horizontally carve out publicly funded programs for essential services across all service sectors. Several other states have already expressed an interest in obtaining a horizontal carve-out of publicly funded programs for essential health services. 37 Readers interested in this question are referred to a recent article, “What is a ‘Service Supplied in the Exercise of Government Authority’ Under Article 1:3(b) and (c) of the General Agreement on Trade in Services?”, by Eric H. Leroux; Journal of World Trade, 40(3): 345-385, 2006. Leroux’s analytical framework is to examine whether the “modalities” of particular public services “place them outside the realm of the marketplace.” Using his standards for determining what is inside or outside the market, it appears likely that Dirigo would be judged as being “inside” the realm of the marketplace, as would a plain-language reading of Article 1:3(b) and (c) of the GATS. Apparently there have been on-going discussions at the WTO GATS Council regarding the scope of the government authority exclusion, and the Maine CTPC may wish to learn more about those discussions.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
20. Thank you for the information. I'll need to take some time to read through and understand it's
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 05:24 PM
Apr 2016

impact but take you at your word that it could pose troubles for single payer efforts.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. Of course, you failed to produce entire list of speeches. Here's one on "women's equality" to Ebay
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:29 PM
Apr 2016

"Clinton's speech [to Ebay, Inc., executives] focused on women's equality in the workplace, a theme she has highlighted in her public remarks for several weeks now. She gave a 20-minute speech and then answered questions from Beth Axelrod, eBay's human resources senior vice president. The issue of her use of a private e-mail server to conduct State Department business did not come up, according to USA Today."

"The newspaper reported that Clinton said a diverse workplace "isn't just the right thing to do, it's the smart thing to do for eBay's bottom line. Inclusivity in the 21st century is a recipe for success. It brings fresh ideas and higher revenues. And in our multicultural country, building a more diverse talent pool isn't a nice-to-do, it's a must-do."

"The question-and-answer session topics included Clinton's tips on parenting as well as doing business in Russia and China, which Axelrod noted were difficult markets for eBay, according to USA Today. Clinton noted that she had recently spent time with Jack Ma, a billionaire entrepreneur who founded and runs Alibaba, a group of Internet-based businesses, and is considered China's richest man.

"Clinton also gave a paid speech a couple weeks ago in California, where on Feb. 24 she addressed "Lead On," a Silicon Valley women's conference. She will give another paid speech on March 19, addressing camp counselors and other educators at the American Camp Association's conference in Atlantic City, N.J.

More here, if you really care about the truth: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/03/12/hillary-clinton-gives-unannounced-paid-speech-to-ebay-executives/




Then, here's one to California Medical Assoc that is mentioned in the Time article:

She appeared before 700 physicians, practice managers, etc.

"Former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton today addressed 700 physicians, practice managers, medical students and others at the Western Health Care Leadership Academy in San Diego. Delivering the keynote address live via satellite, Secretary Clinton urged the California Medical Association to work with other like-minded organizations to help advance meaningful health care delivery and payment reform, instead of continuing to “rejigger” a broken system.

“At some point, we have to move away from fee for service payment for medical care,” said Secretary Clinton. “It is not serving physicians well, or any other health care providers, and I don’t believe it’s serving patients well.”

"Secretary Clinton also held up California’s implementation of the Affordable Care Act as a model for the nation. “We’re going to be watching closely what happens in California. Seeing what works, and what doesn’t. States like California, intent on covering more citizens and fostering bold experimentation to improve outcomes and reduce costs, will not only lead the way, but help everyone else find the way.”

"Secretary Clinton also urged all stakeholders to work together to keep pushing for improvements to the health care system. “The transparency called for under the Affordable Care act is going to reveal a lot of information. Some of it may be surprising. And some of it may even be quite troubling,” said Clinton. “But for the first time, we’re going to see information. And everyone will be able to look at the same information. We can then try and figure out ‘Is there a problem that needs to be fixed?’”


You can read more about what she talked about if you actually care: anet.org/news/detail/?article=clinton-urges-move-away-from-fee-for-service

katsy

(4,246 posts)
5. Speeches to retailers and speeches made public
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 01:49 PM
Apr 2016

to physicians groups are appreciated and have nothing to do with giving secretive speeches to the guys that blew up the economy or the insurance industry who lobby for for-profit healthcare.

If she gave speeches to unions they're probably available publicly also. All well and good.

Now release the transcripts of the secret speeches to wall st.

She can't can she... it would be her own "mittens 47%" moment.

So no. I don't care about her public facade or speeches. I want to know what she talks about to the powerful lobbies.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Yeah, 200 or 300+ investors at a Goldman Sachs event are all going to keep quite about some sinister
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

speech. Give me a break. There are Democrats and Clinton detractors at those meetings. They'd spill the beans, faster than event staff with cell phones, if Clinton has a 47% moment.

katsy

(4,246 posts)
8. Don't give a shit about snark.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:06 PM
Apr 2016

Release the transcripts. Simple. Efficient. Puts the matter to rest.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. Why, you'd take things out of context, say she altered transcripts or went off script, ask
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:13 PM
Apr 2016

what she said before and after the speech, want to see video to make sure she wasn't winking at the Oligarchs supposedly behind the screen, and only god knows what other BSBS advances the agenda.

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
6. Sometimes when I ride my bike a long way, my arse starts to hurt
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:02 PM
Apr 2016

The above sentence has about as much relevance to the OP as your post.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. The OP lists some supposedly sinister speeches from Time. The OP left out a lot of speeches. Why?
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:11 PM
Apr 2016

Because they didn't fit the BS agenda. If you are going to ride a bike long distances, you need to adjust the seat, set seat to pedal length correctly, etc. and learn to take some pressure off your rear by using your legs. It won't hurt as much.

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
12. Just as not every action a theif makes is robbing
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 02:18 PM
Apr 2016

Not every speech Hillary makes is money laundering and/or up front payment for future services

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
13. Keeping with the thief analogy(its fitting)....A good thief mixes his thievery with
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:10 PM
Apr 2016

with legitamite buisiness, this makes the thieving harder to detect (refer to "front operation", or "Clinton foundation&quot .

 

think

(11,641 posts)
15. The thread is about Hillary speaking to the Council of Insurance Agents & Brokers for $225k
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:18 PM
Apr 2016

The same group fighting single payer in Colorado.

You can talk about her other speeches all day but this is the speech that is at the heart of the discussion here.

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
16. The OP is about a fucking ballot measure we have worked hard to get here in CO for Single Payer
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:20 PM
Apr 2016

but commenting on that doesn't fit your B S agenda does it? My BS doesn't stand for Bernie Sanders ,it stands for Bull Shit because he has nothing to do with this.

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
19. Exactly, she may have made speeches womans rights, puppy dogs, or the peice of tea in China,
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:53 PM
Apr 2016

WTF does that have to do with the OP?

Autumn

(45,056 posts)
14. I'm only interested in the speeches she gave to the ones working to defeat the Single Payer
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:16 PM
Apr 2016

ballot measure here in CO.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
21. I would also be very interested in hearing what she said
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 06:39 PM
Apr 2016

Have you read Nick Skala's 2009 paper "The Potential Impact of the World Trade Organization’s General Agreement on Trade in Services on Health System Reform and Regulation in the United States" in IJHS?

That is the definitive paper, i think, on the real reasons they endlessly stonewall us on health care.

You will find an interesting body of criticism of the GATS and more recent deals if you search on the italicized portion of the text in this line:

'a service supplied in the exercise of governmental authority' means any service which is supplied neither on a commercial basis, nor in competition with one or more service suppliers."

Recently, there has been pressure in Europe to change this. We need to do something similar here in the US.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
17. major threats posed to public health care - read here!
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 03:30 PM
Apr 2016
Major Complications: The TPP and Canadian Health Care

page 11

Locking in Privatization and Impeding Medicare Expansion

A major concern about ISDS and TPP-style investor protections is that they
effectively lock in privatization. For example, once foreign investors become
established in a health sector previously insured or delivered exclusively
through the public system, investor–state compensation claims make it costly
to reverse course and return these services to the public health care system
A closely related concern is that ISDS interferes with the expansion of
public health insurance into areas currently insured by private providers.
The prospect of incurring potentially large compensation costs, determined
by a private tribunal outside the reach of domestic courts and legislature,
can chill the expansion of public health insurance into new areas such as
pharmacare. Investor–state litigation creates uncertainty and potential lia
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bilities for the taxpayer, and can tip the political balance in favour of foreign
commercial interests opposed to expanding a public health care system.
The TPP actually makes such claims more likely to succeed by allowing
financial services providers, such as health insurance companies, to launch
investor–state claims alleging violations of the minimum standards of treat
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ment obligations, something that is not permitted under existing Canadian
trade and investment agreements.
19

These provisions have been rightly criti
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cized as a “strikingly flexible catch-all standard,” allowing arbitrators to
impose their own preferences and prejudices in a dispute.
20
The minimum
standards of treatment obligation is the most frequently invoked by invest
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ors in investor–state arbitration claims.
21
These are not abstract or hypothetical concerns. In Europe, foreign in
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vestors have used investment treaties to challenge reversals of privatization
in public health insurance systems. In at least two instances they succeeded.
In 1999, a Dutch-based insurance firm, Eureko, acquired a 30% stake
in Poland’s national health insurance provider. In 2001, the Polish finance
ministry announced it intended to issue more shares to private companies,
a move that would have allowed Eureko to acquire a majority stake. The
planned privatization generated considerable political controversy and was
subsequently cancelled by the Polish government. Eureko then sued Poland
under a Netherlands–Poland Bilateral Investment Treaty (BIT). In 2005, the
investor–state tribunal ruled two-to-one in Eureko’s favour, asserting the
cancelled shares offering violated investor protections in the BIT. The Polish
government eventually settled the dispute for an estimated US$1.6 billion.
Slovakia similarly experimented with health insurance privatization in
2006–07. A newly elected government then took steps to reverse this policy.
22
A Dutch holding company, Achmea, which owned an insurer that had en
tered the Slovakian market, launched a pair of investor–state claims against
Slovakia under the Netherlands–Czechoslovakia BIT. In the first case, the
company was awarded 22.1 million euros ($33.5 million) after the tribunal
decided the regulatory requirement to reinvest profits in the health insurance system
(rather than transferring them as dividends to investors), and restrictions on the transfer of insurance portfolios, violated the fair and equit
12
Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives
able treatment (FET) provisions of the BIT. The Slovak government, even
though backed by the European Commission, was unsuccessful in having
that monetary award set aside in the European courts.
23
A second, even more aggressive claim by the same investor attempted to
persuade a tribunal to take pre-emptive action against the Slovak govern
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ment to stop the establishment of a single-payer public health insurance
system. The Slovak government won that case, although the tribunal’s rul
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ing emphasized Achmea would be able to bring a claim for damages if the
government proceeds with a public health insurance plan that harm the
company’s investments.
24
As discussed in the next section on cross-border trade in services, Can
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ada’s health reservations do not in any way protect against challenges under
the articles dealing with expropriation or minimum standards of treatment
(equivalent to the fair and equitable treatment provision in European BITs).
These TPP provisions apply with full force to the Canadian health care sys
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tem. An expansion of Canadian public health insurance or a reversal of fu
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ture privatization at any level of government would therefore be vulner
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able to investor claims similar to those experienced by Eastern European
governments.
The TPP not only fails to redress these serious flaws in the ISDS process,
it expands their application. By covering foreign investors from more coun
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tries (including Japan, which is home to approximately 2.5% of Canadian
foreign direct investment), the TPP significantly increases the likelihood
of future claims. If ratified in its current form, the TPP would also greatly
complicate future efforts to reform investment protections and ISDS, since
adjustments to the treaty would require reaching consensus among 12 gov
-ernments, a far more difficult undertaking than in NAFTA where three countries need to agree-
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