Hillary Supporters: What are you still doing on GDP?

[democrattotheend]

Clearly most of you believe the primaries are over. So why continue to post on GDP?

From a Sanders supporter who plans to vote for Hillary in the admittedly likely event she is the nominee, you are not doing your candidate any favors by gloating or calling for Sanders to drop out.

You say the primaries are over and we need to focus on defeating the Republicans, so go out and do so. Or at the very least, post positive threads about your candidate in an effort to win over those who say they won't vote for her. Why focus your energy on attacking Bernie or calling for him to drop out at this point?

[NCTraveler]

1. Having fun. Discussing politics. #hillyes. nt.

[DemocracyDirect]

3. Having fun dissing us?

Oh that sounds mature.

[NCTraveler]

6. I said discussing politics. Not dissing you. lol.

But that would have allowed you to interject your "mature" comment.

[DemocracyDirect]

10. Oh I see. Your post wasn't very clear.

I wouldn't want anyone to think you were dissing fellow Democrats.

[NCTraveler]

12. "Having fun. Discussing politics. #hillyes."

I'm not sure how to clear that one up further.

[DemocracyDirect]

14. Well I'll leave it at that.

[NCTraveler]

20. Excellent. Having fun and discussing politics seems like a good move. nt.

[JoePhilly]

28. + 1

[Hortensis]

64. Now, now. The primary isn't over. Sanders

has promised to stay in until the end, which I believe/hope will be a very good thing for our cause. We're just relieved that that little niggling anxiety about winning the primary is basically over. As Sanders supporters would be.

If Sanders abandons his desperation attacks on our leading candidate and instead returns to concentrating on his inspiring message of eliminating gross economic inequality, I'll gladly go back to calling him Bernie. Personally, I'd like him to call for reducing America's billionaire count from over 550 to 0, as well as shrinking America's 30-40,000 mega millionaire class, to see what kind of support he could drum up for that -- while attacking the conservative policies that transferred so much of America's wealth and power to them. In any case, it'd be good to once again feel he is a big asset and a source of strength.

[RandySF]

2. Winning

[DemocracyDirect]

5. You aren't winning us.

And you will need us if you want to have a chance to win.

[Buzz Clik]

8. duh. "I will never vote for Hillary." Why try?

[DemocracyDirect]

18. I have never said that.

Interestingly broad brush.

[brush]

35. Believe me, nobody's trying.

[factfinder_77]

9. Seriously, are you saying you would rather have Trump than Clinton

?

[reddread]

17. could you point us to the lesser evil?

I am not sanctioning a "mistake" like the IWR.
If so I could just write in "GEORGE W BUSH"

[msanthrope]

26. If you can't figure out how important the SCOTUS is on your

own, I'm not sure I can help you.

[DemocracyDirect]

29. Yes you should realize how important the SCOTUS is.

And stopping slamming Bernie supporters...

... so we might have a reason to vote for her if she became the nominee.

But if you don't care, then keep slamming.

[msanthrope]

32. Oh the hurt feelings of BS supporters. nt

[Loudestlib]

62. Hillary supporters told that they didn't need my vote to win the GE.

I believe them.

[bkkyosemite]

4. Just a question? Why with all that you know about Hillary would you vote for her..is it the SC or

the Party or Trump or?

[randome]

13. Even Sanders couldn't name one corrupt thing Clinton has done.

Much of the Clinton-hate is based on innuendo. And I understand some of that -I've always said I'd prefer someone other than Clinton. But since she is our likely nominee, what's the problem with being part of a team instead of sulking and sitting out?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]

[DemocracyDirect]

22. Sadly Trump will not be a gentleman like Bernie.

All Bernie ever said was that it's not appropriate for people to take huge speaking fees from the corporations....

... that a future President of the United States would need to regulate or bring down mighty law against on behalf of the American people.

The optics are not good to the many people who live outside the Clinton bubble.

[dlwickham]

53. instead of one of his supporters calling her a whore

he'll do it himself

[Matt_in_STL]

57. And she won't be able to fall back on sexism as her rallying cry

Because anyone who votes for Trump won't care how many crocodile tears she cries. The GE is going to be a whole new ballgame for someone who cries victim at every turn. Good luck with that strategy.

[bettyellen]

67. Yes, and that will kill his candidacy. Between her brains and his sexist and racist spewing

it is going to be a cake walk.

[SidDithers]

46. But the Washington Free Beacon has said lots of bad stuff about her!...

And if you cant trust the Washington Free Beacon, who can you trust?

Sid

[democrattotheend]

15. SC, Trump, and because there are a lot of things I like about her

There are lots of things I don't like about her, mainly her hawkishness and evasiveness and her ties to Wall Street. But there are many things I do like about her. I admire how tough she is, I admire the fact that she is able to keep going despite all the shit that has been thrown at her for 25 years. I think she is smart, has a great grasp of policy, and has the experience and the connections to get things done.

Will I be as excited to vote for her in November as I will be if I get to vote for Bernie again? Hell no! I think Bernie is the most authentic, honest, sincere candidate who has had a serious chance at the presidency in my lifetime. But I wouldn't say that I would have to hold my nose to vote for Hillary.

That said, some of the obnoxious Clinton supporters on this board are really trying my resolve to support her. Thankfully, I know better than to judge Hillary by her online supporters. She herself has been classy thus far and has not called for Bernie to drop out. It would be kind of hard for her to do so after she accused Obama supporters of "wanting people to stop voting" in 2008.

[Dem2]

7. I like Bernie and Hillary both

I like politics. No, I am obsessed with politics.

Can I stay?

[democrattotheend]

19. Sure

This post was directed at those who have posted thread after thread declaring victory, bashing Bernie, and calling for him to drop out.

[MineralMan]

11. We're doing what this website is for.

We're discussing the primaries. Why should we stop doing that? Before long, this part of DU will be renamed to Election 2016 or something like that. When it is, we'll still be here, discussing the campaign to help our nominee get elected.

This is Democratic Underground. Democrats are welcome here, and always have been. We'll be here, despite the wishes of some who would like to see us go away. We'll be here after some people leave. I've been here almost 8 years, and I'm not going away.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

42. Nobody is helping our nominee by posting on DU...

[MineralMan]

48. DU is nothing more than a place for politically interested

people to post what they're thinking. It never has been more than that. There may be a couple thousand active participants in discussions here. No more than that. Just looking at the number of view for even the most viewed posts makes that clear. Since a view is nothing more than a click to the thread, many of those views are duplicates from people returning to the thread multiple times.

A couple of thousand people talking about politics. DU is what DU is. I like it. It's a place where I can post my thinking about things political. I've never seen it as anything else. In terms of elections, it has zero influence at all.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

49. Yes, but no one here is helping anyone to get elected. What we're doing here is sitting on our...

...fat asses and not participating in any way getting our nominee/candidate or anyone else elected by typing into this board. All any of this is is hot air.

[MineralMan]

50. Well, as far as the presidential election is concerned, you're right.

On the other hand, many DUers are active in local, district and state election activism. I am. I do make a difference and have helped candidates win elections on those levels.

I've never been much interested in working on presidential elections. I have no influence at all, really, in those, except perhaps to help with getting Democratic voters to the polls in my local area.

GOTV is about the most any individual can do to influence elections. So, that's what I do. That's what I encourage others to do, as well. DU doesn't matter in that regard, since GOTV is purely a local things.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

56. I'm sure there are a few here who are out there working, but my comment applies to participation...

...on this board, where said participation does diddly-squat to get anyone elected to anything, including dog catcher.

[MineralMan]

59. We don't disagree on that at all.

I've said it a number of times here. DU is a nice diversion from other things. It can be addictive, but it's not effective particularly.

[floriduck]

61. Does that mean you support the investigation of the Board of Elections in NY?

It contradicts the principle of GOTV if anyone who was a registered Dem following the rules had their status changed either intentionally or by accident. And it would have affected both Dem candidates. You agree, right?

[MineralMan]

66. Sure. It should go forward.

I'm always in favor of investigations to find out whether or how something has been screwed up. Without such investigations, things don't get fixed.

I don't live in New York, so I don't really have any stake in this. If we learn more about what happened, I'll be reading that.

Minnesota, my adopted state, is always looking at its elections. After every election, sample precincts selected at random are hand counted. We've also had two statewide total hand recounts since I moved here. This state is very proactive in making sure that its elections and all other political matters, such as redistricting after the 10-year census numbers are finalized.

I do not know much about New York's voting practices. But I always welcome looking into them if there is any question.

One thing, though: Whatever that investigation reveals will not change the outcome of this recent primary election. It probably won't even end until after November. It might cause changes for future elections, though, and that's a good thing, if changes are needed. On the other hand, it might discover that nothing was really wrong there. I don't know, and won't predict.

[hamsterjill]

43. Me, too.

I've been here twelve years, and I'll be sticking around after all of the snarking is over. I'm anxious for the discussion to return to real issues that Hillary will face in the general.

For the record, NO, I do not think that Bernie will or should drop out right now. He brings some important issues to the table. But I think the writing is on the wall and it's time for his supporters to realize that. They can either realize it with grace and dignity (like many of us had to do in 2008) or they can whine, but neither is going to make a difference.

I've absolutely seen some of THE most immature comments EVER on DU over the last several months. It is insulting that some have tried to make this a contest between young and old, and it's even worse that some have come to DEMOCRATIC Underground with the intent to change the direction of the board.

In a very short time, we will all unite and anyone who chooses not to unite behind the nominee will ultimately grow weary and leave.

[Codeine]

16. Same thing I always do at DU.

Equal proportions of chat, learning, snarking, and laughing at the gems some of our more clever posters come up with.

[bigtree]

21. this isn't a campaign

...it's a discussion board.

Discuss.

[tritsofme]

23. Oh please, real world elections don't turn on DU members having a sad from exposure to reality

Time for everyone to get over Bernie's defeat in the primaries, and move on to the general.

[Zira]

27. He hasn't been defeated in the primaries. they aren't over yet.

And you should be scared and want Bernie out with the nose dive Hillary's polls have taken.

Sans voter suppression, Hillary can't win anything. The DNC had to resort to making 126k Dems into Independents, in Brooklyn alone to prevent Dems from voting. The DNC knows Hillary can't win if people are allowed to vote.

Apr 15th poll:

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/hillary-clintons-favorability-rating-among-democrats-hit-new-low

[tritsofme]

45. Yes he did, it's over. All that's left is sad pathetic denial. Get over it, move on.

[Trajan]

58. Time to continue the battle against a Democratic Party leadership

That is rotten to the core ....

We aren't going to tolerate this usurpation of our party by right wing numbskulls ...

This isn't done ....

[DCBob]

24. Figuring out how to help Bernie and his supporters understand basic math.

[Orsino]

25. "2008," whispers a voice on the breeze.

Sanders having promised to campaign until the convention, I encourage Clinton supporters not to run out of gas. Bring your candidate all the delegates you can, because they are needed.

[think]

30. Haven't seen a single thread promoting Hillary's issues or ideas. Just smug taunting...

[democrattotheend]

34. Same

You'd think their energy would be better spent promoting the candidate they believe so strongly in. Yet they remain so focused on a candidate they say has become insignificant. Strange.

[CobaltBlue]

40. Not just 'strange'…

You'd think their energy would be better spent promoting the candidate they believe so strongly in. Yet they remain so focused on a candidate they say has become insignificant. Strange.

It's not just strange.

It's revealing.

Every person who has voted for Hillary Clinton to be the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee has voted to legitimize Republicans and George W. Bush and the war in Iraq.

I will not vote, in the general election, for a nominee Hillary Clinton.

[DCBob]

44. The OP was "smug taunting".

Respond in kind.

[think]

47. The smug taunting has been non stop since last night. Hillary on issues. Not a peep.....

[FlatBaroque]

51. Nor will you. She is on the wrong side of almost every issue and her ideas are stale and limp. /

[trumad]

31. Meltdowns are fascinating to watch.

[riversedge]

33. BINGO--You win for the silliest post of the day (so far) Congrats.

[Zynx]

36. Gloating. Because it's fun. :-)

[democrattotheend]

37. Smart way to get people on board with your candidate

[Zynx]

38. Oh get a sense of humor. I was trolling.

[hack89]

39. Enjoying the party. nt

[Tarc]

41. "post positive threads about your candidate..."

Perhaps if we could spend less time defending Hillary from vile slurs, "bernie or bust" nonsense and the like, we could.

[stonecutter357]

52. Nun of Your Business.

[Octafish]

54. My eyes first saw this as ''Why are you still on GDP?''

While Bernie is my candidate, my eyes saw "Hillary" but did not register pro- or anti-Hillary. My eyes moved on to read: "What are you still doing on GDP?"

So I started gearing up how undemocratic that sounded when I realized to whom you had addressed the OP, democrattotheend. Like you, the reality is I support Hillary, too.

[villager]

55. They seem to be the bitterest, sorest "winners" imaginable. A dearth of embracing spirit.

"Winning," indeed.

[treestar]

60. now the issue is Bernie not doing more damage

we have The Rs to deal with.

[auntpurl]

63. Because until DU switches to GE mode, this is the only place we can discuss Hillary

except the Hillary group, which has a lot less traffic.

[kgnu_fan]

65. kick