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FourScore

(9,704 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:41 PM Apr 2016

ELECTION LAWSUIT UPDATES:

Tweets from Jordan Chariton - The Young Turks. He is in the courtroom and tweeting live updates.

Main points:

1. If you are registered as dem and you have been purged or changed - GET A COURT ORDER FROM A JUDGE OR FILL OUT A PROVISIONAL BALLOT. Some are saying that a judge almost always sides with the voter. DU'er winter is coming makes the excellent point that getting a court order means your ballot will be counted TODAY. However, if you absolutely cannot see a judge, fill out a provisional.

2. If you are registered independent - To say you are registered as a democrat when, in reality, you are not is VOTER FRAUD!!! You may, however, leave the party affiliation blank!!! It may still be counted.

3. Some people are reporting 7 Clinton delegates and 6 Sanders delegates with instructions to vote for 7. It should say pick UP TO 7 delegates!!! Only vote for your candidate's delegates!!!!!!

4. PLEASE KICK AND REC THIS FOR WIDER VISIBILITY!!!!!!!


Jordan ?@JordanChariton 9m9 minutes ago

#NYPrimary lawsuit lawyers say fact that motion wasn't dismissed is good thing since it preserves right 2 contest election #FeelTheBern
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Jordan ?@JordanChariton 14m14 minutes ago

#NYPrimary election judge says people who feel have been purged have remedy...go get court order in front of a judge
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Jordan ?@JordanChariton 19m19 minutes ago

Lawyers urge Dems who feel they have had registration changed wrongly should vote on provisional ballot since a new hearing has been granted
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Jordan ?@JordanChariton 21m21 minutes ago

NY Board of Election said they have nothing to do with the problems, are "not responsible for the counties" #NYPrimary
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Jordan ?@JordanChariton 22m22 minutes ago

Defendants and give each county notice that they have to appear in court to defend their voter registration process (over 60 counties)...
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Jordan ?@JordanChariton 23m23 minutes ago

(Several part tweet) NYPrimary election lawsuit: Judge orders hearing 4 later date, instructs plaintiffs to name every single NY county as..
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Jordan Retweeted
dane wilson ?@populationme23 44m44 minutes ago

@JordanChariton @TheYoungTurks thanks for keeping the exchange current even w out any news. Let's us know people are on it, thank you.
View conversation
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Jordan ?@JordanChariton 51m51 minutes ago

No update yet on #NYPrimary lawsuit
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Jordan ?@JordanChariton 1h1 hour ago

New data from city Board of Elections shows it "actually removed 126,000 Brooklyn Dems from the rolls" #NYPrimary
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Jordan Retweeted
Shaun King ?@ShaunKing 1h1 hour ago

Now Mayor @deBlasioNYC is demanding an explanation on why 126,000 people in Brooklyn were dropped from voting rolls
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https://twitter.com/JordanChariton


UPDATE: Video update from Jordan Chariton, The Young Turks. I can't embed the video because it is posted on facebook, and is not uploaded onto youtube, as far as I can tell.

H/T to Kittycat for the link!

https://www.facebook.com/TheYoungTurks/videos/10153583636724205/

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ELECTION LAWSUIT UPDATES: (Original Post) FourScore Apr 2016 OP
Getting a court order is better than a provisional ballot, as your vote will be counted TODAY. winter is coming Apr 2016 #1
Thanks! I added it to the OP!!! Good point! n/t FourScore Apr 2016 #2
Someone on reddit pointed that out, so h/t to reddit. n/t winter is coming Apr 2016 #3
126,000 dropped from the voting rolls in Brooklyn alone. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #4
Terrible. And it has nothing to do with Sandy because the purge happened 11/15-4/16. n/t FourScore Apr 2016 #6
Is that voters who had not voted in 8 years or something else? Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #30
Very helpful! Any word on how to get a court order? snot Apr 2016 #5
Ask at the polling place, otherwise I guess the court house? Anyone know the answer to this? FourScore Apr 2016 #8
rly? I haven't had any time off to LiberalElite Apr 2016 #20
Hmm, I read that somewhere recently, but maybe it wasn't true? snot Apr 2016 #33
I'm in NYC LiberalElite Apr 2016 #34
Thanks for the correction! snot Apr 2016 #44
Here's the relevant part of the NYS Election Law: LiberalElite Apr 2016 #45
KICK! Raster Apr 2016 #7
K&R nenagh Apr 2016 #9
kicking for NYers . . n/t annabanana Apr 2016 #10
jumping through so many rings of fire.... kgnu_fan Apr 2016 #11
K&R Proudpiscean Apr 2016 #12
How does one get a court order from a judge? Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #13
I have to leave now to take care of my kids, vote and canvass!! Can someone please answer this?! FourScore Apr 2016 #16
Generally, there are election protection lawyers available that will handle the matter brooklynite Apr 2016 #24
link to PDF explaining the process: winter is coming Apr 2016 #26
Ah. Very interesting. Thanks! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #28
Thx for update. pat_k Apr 2016 #14
knr nt retrowire Apr 2016 #15
In Summary Stallion Apr 2016 #17
Not exactly. But thanks for trying. n/t FourScore Apr 2016 #23
Rosario v Rockefeller (1973) is the Case and It Has Never Been Reversed or Modified Stallion Apr 2016 #31
Knr roody Apr 2016 #18
He is tweeting from the courtroom nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #19
It's state court, isn't it? Fawke Em Apr 2016 #22
Trust me we all filed with the judge nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #25
US District Court for Eastern District of New York Stallion Apr 2016 #27
kicking nt LiberalElite Apr 2016 #21
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #29
K&R silverweb Apr 2016 #32
Jordon's TYT Video Link... Kittycat Apr 2016 #35
Done! Thanks Kittycat! n/t FourScore Apr 2016 #37
Thanks, and great thread! Thank you Kittycat Apr 2016 #39
kandr nt Rebkeh Apr 2016 #36
"You may, however, leave the party affiliation blank!!! It may still be counted" == voter fraud Tarc Apr 2016 #38
No. It was recommended by lawyers in case the judge decided to rule for an open primary. n/t FourScore Apr 2016 #40
Yea, you give that "but the lawyers said it was ok!" excuse in court, sport Tarc Apr 2016 #41
Thanks for kickiing the thread - still 35 minutes to vote! FourScore Apr 2016 #42
I love kicking threads that make Camp Sanders look foolish Tarc Apr 2016 #43

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
1. Getting a court order is better than a provisional ballot, as your vote will be counted TODAY.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:43 PM
Apr 2016

Dog knows when provisionals will be counted.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
30. Is that voters who had not voted in 8 years or something else?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:13 PM
Apr 2016

In ny you must vote once every 8 years or you your party registration is dropped.( you can vote in a non primary still)

I dont like the law, but it is what it is. Or are these people that were dropped for another reason.

snot

(10,520 posts)
5. Very helpful! Any word on how to get a court order?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:49 PM
Apr 2016

Or are the polling places providing that info?

One GOOD thing about NY law, as I understand, is that employers are required to give people the day off to vote – so the court order option might actually be do-able, at least for some.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
34. I'm in NYC
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:00 PM
Apr 2016

Started out Election Day was a holiday. Then we got two hours at beginning or end of the workday
Then no time off at all. Of course if someone wanted to use their accumulated PTO to vote they probably could but as for us getting additional time off to vote that hasn't been a thing for a good while for me.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
16. I have to leave now to take care of my kids, vote and canvass!! Can someone please answer this?!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:55 PM
Apr 2016

Gotta go!!

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
24. Generally, there are election protection lawyers available that will handle the matter
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:08 PM
Apr 2016

However, the same rule applies; you'll only have legal standing if you claim that you WERE a Democrat or Registered voter and that your registration was changed or invalidated. You will NOT have legal standing if you know you never re-registered.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
14. Thx for update.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:54 PM
Apr 2016
NYPrimary election lawsuit: Judge orders hearing 4 later date, instructs plaintiffs to name every single NY county as..

Defendants and give each county notice that they have to appear in court to defend their voter registration process


These sound very interesting to me. Would love to see more information/clarification.

Is this essentially broadening scope for subsequent hearing? That is, each county will have to defend registration and maintenance processes and account for problems?

Seems like, whatever ultimately happens, it might result in a much needed examination of the processes.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
17. In Summary
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:55 PM
Apr 2016

1) Registered Independents or non-Democrats pretty much out of luck and cautioned against Voter Fraud
2) The Provisional Ballot Democrats who can show that they were registered Democrat and did not disenfranchise themselves could be counted later(if it matters)
3) Apparently New York Primary remains Closed-no mention of Constitutionality of New York primary Law(I've read a SCOTUS case approving of New York's Closed Primary which seemingly would be binding although I didn't do a writ history)

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
31. Rosario v Rockefeller (1973) is the Case and It Has Never Been Reversed or Modified
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:26 PM
Apr 2016

by the US 2nd Court of Appeals or SCOTUS-looks like good law

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/410/752/

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
19. He is tweeting from the courtroom
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:57 PM
Apr 2016

When did that start? I kid, I kid...I tried that here and I would be in serious trouble.

In between morning and afternoon fun

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
22. It's state court, isn't it?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:05 PM
Apr 2016

They're not as strict about having electronic devices.

But, even if it's federal court, reporters can get waivers to have them. I had one when I covered some of the Boston bombing trial. I could use my phone to Tweet, but couldn't take pictures.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
25. Trust me we all filed with the judge
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:08 PM
Apr 2016

But local judges just ahem frown at tweeting from the court room. Though, brought IPad, wrote my morning narrative already. Am afraid this will go on until tomorrow.

They don't mind if we text before things get underway.

And you are correct. They likely filed, and under open court room rules...

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
38. "You may, however, leave the party affiliation blank!!! It may still be counted" == voter fraud
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:46 PM
Apr 2016

You are encouraging people to attempt to vote deceptively.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
41. Yea, you give that "but the lawyers said it was ok!" excuse in court, sport
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:36 PM
Apr 2016


There is no legal basis for a judge to flip a primary from closed to open, doubly so on the fucking day of the fucking election. Jesus, wake up.
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