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pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:54 AM Apr 2016

Land of the free? New reports shows the US ranks dead last in electoral integrity.

Last edited Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:10 PM - Edit history (1)

As if further proof could possibly be needed of the sorry state of the American electoral process, a new study just ranked the United States dead last in electoral integrity among established Western democracies.

The Electoral Integrity Project (EIP)'s 2015 Year in Elections report is an independent research project by 2,000 elections experts from Harvard University and the University of Sydney in Australia assembled to examine the world's elections.

The EIP states that "the core notion of 'electoral integrity' refers to agreed international principles and standards of elections, applying universally to all countries worldwide throughout the electoral cycle, including during the pre-electoral period, the campaign, and on polling day and its aftermath. Conversely, 'electoral malpractice' refers to violations of electoral integrity."

"The report gathers assessments from over 2,000 experts to evaluate the perceived integrity of all 180 national parliamentary and presidential contests held between July 1, 2012 to December 31, 2015 in 139 countries worldwide. These include 54 national elections held last year. Indeed, the 2016 elections have proven the system so rigged, even those who'd previously still harbored illusions our democracy is fair, have begun to come to terms with the truth: the political establishment's corporatist plutocrats choose their own to install in the White House every four years.

Hillary Clinton 'winning' Wyoming's primary despite being summarily trounced by Bernie Sanders in the popular vote — with her 44 percent to his 56 percent — simply evidence the latest example of the farcical illusion of choice revealed by EIP. Superdelegates — who aren't beholden to vote for a candidate according to the popular choice and could potentially sway the nomination — are causing an even greater uproar among Democrats fed up with the establishment's obvious favorite candidate, Hillary.

Though reasons why the United States has reached this new low in fair elections are complex, critics often point to the tidal wave of corporate cash after the Supreme Court's decision in Citizens United. But this may be somewhat misguided. Would removing cash automatically bring some voting power back to the public? Perhaps to an extent. But it also ignores the will of the establishment to ensure its rulers always win — in other words, where there's a will there's a way.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/land-free-ranks-dead-west-fair-elections/
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Land of the free? New reports shows the US ranks dead last in electoral integrity. (Original Post) pantsonfire Apr 2016 OP
Silly lefties. Unicorns, rainbows and fair elections are just blue sky pipe dreams. Scuba Apr 2016 #1
K&R +Murica n/t pantsonfire Apr 2016 #2
Citizens United will be defeated with Hillary's Supreme Court. oasis Apr 2016 #3
Did you forget to add the sarcasm drip? JudyM Apr 2016 #6
Did you forget Citizens United was on Hillary's hit list since her oasis Apr 2016 #8
Ridiculous! She is driving its engine at 120 mph, are you for real??!! JudyM Apr 2016 #10
Hillary believes it's wiser to fight fire with fire. oasis Apr 2016 #13
fight fire with fire = take bribe money to fight bribe money casperthegm Apr 2016 #19
And promising free stuff isn't a bribe. oasis Apr 2016 #22
Oh, the "free stuff" argument again... casperthegm Apr 2016 #23
Convincing "billionaires and corporations" to kick in for oasis Apr 2016 #27
Ah ha, there's our difference casperthegm Apr 2016 #30
The goals of the 99% should rightly be pursued. No argument there. n/t oasis Apr 2016 #32
Promising to reprioritize taxes and spending to provide programs the people want beedle Apr 2016 #26
No "Flint tap water" and definitely no Kool Aid. (eom) oasis Apr 2016 #29
Then where are you getting this "free stuff" nonsense? beedle Apr 2016 #31
Only Hillary is susceptible to "bribes"? See post #19. oasis Apr 2016 #33
sorry to jump in... casperthegm Apr 2016 #34
It can be "spun" as bribe if it's attributed to Hillary. Got it. oasis Apr 2016 #35
You're not making any sense. Read #19 yourself beedle Apr 2016 #36
Well said beedle casperthegm Apr 2016 #37
The author of post 19 introduces "bribes" into the oasis Apr 2016 #38
On her hit list.... casperthegm Apr 2016 #12
See post #13. nt oasis Apr 2016 #14
for 353,000 dollars you can remind George Clooney reddread Apr 2016 #15
That's why Clooney trusts Hill to nominate Supreme Court justices oasis Apr 2016 #16
will she get Brock's help on that? reddread Apr 2016 #17
Some will crack wise for the next four years, while others will roll oasis Apr 2016 #20
she aint getting there from here reddread Apr 2016 #21
If by "exciting" you mean "I can smell the rubble and blood of dying servicemen and women" VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #24
I certainly dont reddread Apr 2016 #25
Don't I wish I could believe that. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #7
Believe it or not. You can bundle every dream you have with Bernie oasis Apr 2016 #11
Sanders supporters arent the ones bundling reddread Apr 2016 #18
DUzy! TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #28
In the laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand of the sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #4
So Harvard people can't understand math, re Wyoming? Poor people, guess they should've gone to Yale Tarc Apr 2016 #5
Damn. 11 of the top 12 are in Europe. Electoral integrity is not impossible. pampango Apr 2016 #9

oasis

(49,376 posts)
3. Citizens United will be defeated with Hillary's Supreme Court.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:05 AM
Apr 2016

The U.S. process will be greatly improved by the next general election.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
13. Hillary believes it's wiser to fight fire with fire.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:02 AM
Apr 2016

You can't take on the Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adelman, T. Boone Pickens and other ultra right wing billionaires in the general election on a shoestring budget.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
19. fight fire with fire = take bribe money to fight bribe money
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:16 AM
Apr 2016

I think that, in a nutshell, is the difference between Sanders and Clinton supporters. We believe that a grassroots effort, supported by the people will win in the end. Of course, the HRC supporters generally see Sanders supporters as naive anyway, so they can add this to the list...

casperthegm

(643 posts)
23. Oh, the "free stuff" argument again...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:32 AM
Apr 2016

Oh yeah, those Bernie supporters; they are so naive. They think that Bernie is going to give them everything for free. Good lord. Everything has a cost. Nobody is disputing that. His plan is clearly laid out and has been reviewed by many economists. A good portion of the expenses will be covered by billionaires and corporations paying their fair share. But you already know this, don't you?

oasis

(49,376 posts)
27. Convincing "billionaires and corporations" to kick in for
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:40 AM
Apr 2016

the common good would be a neat trick. Unfortunately, none of the above were seen at any of those massive Bernie rallies.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
30. Ah ha, there's our difference
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:47 AM
Apr 2016

(Well, I think it's clear we have a few differences) But anyway...Bernie isn't taking the Hillary approach, you know the one where she sternly told the banks to "cut it out." He's not, and we're not, asking for permission or trying to convince the billionaires it's the right thing to do. I could give a rats @$$ whether or not they are on board. They are the 1%. We are the 99%. Time for the actions of politicians to reflect that number. And we're here to make sure that they do what we tell them to. Win or lose this election, we aren't going away.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
26. Promising to reprioritize taxes and spending to provide programs the people want
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:37 AM
Apr 2016

is a 'bribe' now???

Is that how Hillary supporters think? Taking bribes is okay, listening to the people is 'bribery'?

No wonder the Democratic party is shrinking and locking itself in a bubble and has no new ideas, even their lame attacks are at least 2 decades out of date (throwing $1 bills at strippers.) .... lay off the Flint tap water.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
31. Then where are you getting this "free stuff" nonsense?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:49 AM
Apr 2016

Are you just lying for the hell of it?

casperthegm

(643 posts)
34. sorry to jump in...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:02 AM
Apr 2016

But grass roots efforts to let the voices of the 99% be heard is not exactly bribery, is it? Anything can be spun to fit an argument but this one seems like a bit of a stretch. Apparently opinions vary.

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
36. You're not making any sense. Read #19 yourself
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:07 AM
Apr 2016

Look, I don't really care if Hillary is guilty or not, and even if she is, AND NO she is not the only one susceptible to bribes ... THAT"S THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT!!!!

The whole system is ripe for bribery, I don't even trust Bernie to remain above the influence in this environment, but so far he's the only fucking candidate that has even tried to show a little bit of integrity on this issue. Hillary is beyond saving, her record is one of very poor judgment at every turn, the only reason she's not in jail right now is because she's a Clinton, one of the protected class whose crimes are dismissed with "vast right wing conspiracy" even when they come from the left.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
38. The author of post 19 introduces "bribes" into the
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 10:22 AM
Apr 2016

discussion. From my standpoint, Hillary is no more influenced by Wall Street than throngs of Bernie supporters are influenced by promises of "free stuff". Both can be considered "bribes".

casperthegm

(643 posts)
12. On her hit list....
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:58 AM
Apr 2016

While she takes full advantage of all the money that it offers her campaign. Essentially; "I'm taking advantage of it now, but I promise, once I get elected I'm going to stop taking all of the money and put an end to it." Pardon me if I don't buy this load of manure...

oasis

(49,376 posts)
16. That's why Clooney trusts Hill to nominate Supreme Court justices
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:12 AM
Apr 2016

who will overturn Citizens United.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
20. Some will crack wise for the next four years, while others will roll
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:24 AM
Apr 2016

up their sleeves and make valuable contributions to begin a successful Democratic administration.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
24. If by "exciting" you mean "I can smell the rubble and blood of dying servicemen and women"
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:32 AM
Apr 2016

then yeah! The next four years will be INCREDIBLY exciting.

"May you live in interesting times."

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
7. Don't I wish I could believe that.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:37 AM
Apr 2016

Unfortunately, every time Hillary so much as breathes, the carbon dioxide that leaves her lips comes out in a crooked molecular structure.

oasis

(49,376 posts)
11. Believe it or not. You can bundle every dream you have with Bernie
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:54 AM
Apr 2016

but at some point you're going to have to wake up to reality.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
9. Damn. 11 of the top 12 are in Europe. Electoral integrity is not impossible.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:49 AM
Apr 2016

From the study itself:

In the United States, the 2012 Presidential election and the 2014 Congressional elections were ranked worst of any long-established democracy, especially on campaign finance and electoral registration.

By contrast, however, experts ranked nine elections very highly in meeting international standards of electoral integrity, including in Denmark (ranked 1st), Finland, Estonia, Switzerland, Poland, Portugal, Israel, and Canada.

Experts also rated elections positively in some developing countries and newer democracies, including in Benin, Croatia, and Lesotho.

Some notable gains also occurred last year, although contests had room for further improvements, including in Nigeria and Myanmar.



https://sites.google.com/site/electoralintegrityproject4/projects/expert-survey-2/the-year-in-elections-2015

Interesting that among the Arab Spring countries Tunisia ranks much higher than the US while Syria is at the bottom.
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